Versus Battle Chunin Exam 1 Rock Lee Vs Chunin Exam 1 Sasuke

[Roo]

But the move has not started yet, he has not been paralised yet

The fact that he’s attempting it means he has it open. Again, would Kakashi go in a rakiri stance without his sharingan on?

 

[Rumble]

Lee beats his ass like a drum.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

The fact that he’s attempting it means he has it open. Again, would Kakashi go in a rakiri stance without his sharingan on?

He would charge the raggiri without the sharingan

 

[Roronoa-sama]

 

[Roo]

He would charge the raggiri without the sharingan

Not in pt1

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Not in pt1

When he teaches the raikiri to sasuke i remember he says something along the lines of "sharingan is needed because you go too fast amd you need the reflexes sharingan gives you"

 

[Roo]

When he teaches the raikiri to sasuke i remember he says something along the lines of "sharingan is needed because you go too fast amd you need the reflexes sharingan gives you"

Yeah what I am saying is if he's going to use the rakiri, he will have his sharingan on because he can't use it without

similarly, Lee is going to have his gate open when he goes for the lotus.

 

[MUUGEN]

Yeah what I am saying is if he's going to use the rakiri, he will have his sharingan on because he can't use it without

similarly, Lee is going to have his gate open when he goes for the lotus.

so utterly wrong...

 

[MUUGEN]

raikiri does not need Sharigan in fact this is an original move from Kakashi which he used prior to even obtaining Sharingan Sharingan just made the move vviable for safety hazards as it enhances reflexes and precision, which is why he only taught it to sasuke and not Naruto even though he could've taught it to Naruto. Sharigan is a safety net for the technique

 

[Roo]

raikiri does not need Sharigan in fact this is an original move from Kakashi which he used prior to even obtaining Sharingan Sharingan just made the move vviable for safety hazards as it enhances reflexes and precision, which is why he only taught it to sasuke and not Naruto even though he could've taught it to Naruto. Sharigan is a safety net for the technique

>rakiri does not need a sharingan
> sharingan just made the move viable

do you even realize what you wrote LMAO. I never said Rakiri is a sharingan technique like kamui, I said Kakashi needs the sharingan to use rakiri because guess what? without it is useless.

So when Kakashi goes for a rakiri, he will have his sharingan on. At least in Pt1

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

>rakiri does not need a sharingan
> sharingan just made the move viable

do you even realize what you wrote LMAO. I never said Rakiri is a sharingan technique like kamui, I said Kakashi needs the sharingan to use rakiri because guess what? without it is useless.

So when Kakashi goes for a rakiri, he will have his sharingan on. At least in Pt1

Without is not useless though.
Without is dangerous because you cannot see enemies attacks.
It's like saying reject is useless because it damages the user.

 

[Cruxroux]

Uchiha's are sometimes like Logia users , way too over confident in sharingan.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Uchiha's are sometimes like Logia users , way too over confident in sharingan.

They need a crutch, take their eyes and what can they do?

 

[Cruxroux]

They need a crutch, take their eyes and what can they do?

Pretty sure Madara used Susanoo without eyes.
Don't know if that applies to all the uchiha or not.

 

[Roo]

Without is not useless though.
Without is dangerous because you cannot see enemies attacks.
It's like saying reject is useless because it damages the user.

you're being pedantic when the point stands, kakashi would not use rakiri without his sharingan. Similarly, Lee would not go for the lotus if he didnt have a gate open

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

you're being pedantic when the point stands, kakashi would not use rakiri without his sharingan. Similarly, Lee would not go for the lotus if he didnt have a gate open

I know I am being pedantic, but it's stated that Lee needs to use the gates to use the lotus, but before this conversation started, I never thought he had opened the gates yet in the fight with Sasuke.
Can I be certain? No, of course. I thought myself that the gate was something he needed to do the attacks he performs in the air.

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Pretty sure Madara used Susanoo without eyes.
Don't know if that applies to all the uchiha or not.

Wasn't the magenkyou needed for susanoo?
I really cannot remember all the sharingan hacks.
And people rate this "system", literally powerwanking.

 

[MUUGEN]

you're being pedantic when the point stands, kakashi would not use rakiri without his sharingan. Similarly, Lee would not go for the lotus if he didnt have a gate open

Yet he did and wouldve continued to if he wasn't told not to from minato....

You're evidently prevent wrong in any and all arguments that you've tried to make.

the differnce between the two is that there is no preset conditions or anything stopping kakashi or sasuke from using raikiri it can be used as a move without sharingan as stated its simply for safety hazards to be able to react to enemies where as primary lotus needs and has preset condition opening gates in order to pull off the physicality of move as it exceeds a base humans abilities. Kakashi can where as Lee simply can NOT.

No, Lee never used a gate cause he never used primary lotus, primary lotus is the downward spiral not Lee just releasing his bandages, maybe read the panels you shared Lee explicitly states he might have to and the he is stopped before the move even begin.

 

[soupongo]

I mean, Op they did fight. We saw the result.