Powers & Abilities Coa can't help the weak trio

#1
even if ussop and nami learn haki they still can't beat a veteran-level fighter without help because they are not physically strong and the veterans also know haki. the way they can be stronger is by getting a power-up in their current fighting style like nami getting Zeus.
 
#3
I say that they should still get Coa even if they aren't physically strong enough, it will at least give them some protection so they don't die so fast and need plot to come in to save them, like Big Mom taking down Page One and Ulti for Ussop and Nami for example.

Monster Chopper wouldn't be bleeding and hurting as much from Queen's bite if he had CoA.

Ussop's sniping skills will also be greatly hindered if he can't hit Logia Devil Fruit users because he can't imbue his ammo with CoA.

Nami wouldn't be a glass cannon and wouldn't need as much plot to survive fights if she had CoA.

Powerups don't mean spit if you can't even survive the fight and enemy attacks before fighting back. Nami got her Zeus powerup from Big Mom, that didn't prevent Nami from almost dying to Page One and Ulti if not for Big Mom herself intervening and taking Page One and Ulti out.
 
#5
even if ussop and nami learn haki they still can't beat a veteran-level fighter without help because they are not physically strong and the veterans also know haki. the way they can be stronger is by getting a power-up in their current fighting style like nami getting Zeus.
Agreed only Chopper would benefit from COA,Ussop and Nami need new PU's!Nami got Zeus!What will Ussop get?Kairoseki bullets!
 
#10
The Weak Trio has the Pirate Christ blessing so they be OK either way :cheers:

You mean the trash who abadoned his son & wife? Ussop is already God btw
Stop hating just because your dad left for milk decades ago and is still not back
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If Monster Point is not Hybrid form I hope Chopper unlocks it.
Chopper is nearly always in hybrid form.... And since when was hybrid something a zoan has to unlock?

Wow I guess a humanoid deer, with fingers, toes, and the ability to talk from eating a magic human fruit isn’t considered hybrid but being giant in addition to the rest of said traits makes you so

Like he’s literally either 100% deer or half. Never is he fully human so you would think you’d hope he would unlock that
 
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Dr_Professor83

Professor Professor
#11
Chopper is nearly always in hybrid form.... And since when was hybrid something a zoan has to unlock?

Wow I guess a humanoid deer, with fingers, toes, and the ability to talk from eating a magic human fruit isn’t considered hybrid but being giant in addition to the rest of said traits makes you so

Like he’s literally either 100% deer or half. Never is he fully human so you would think you’d hope he would unlock that
Probably meant awakening.
 
#12
CoA / Tekkai is important if you have the base strength, and CoO is important if have the combat skill or raw speed.

CoA user Marigold lost to pre-ts Luffy's G2 bazooka and CoO user Sandersonia get blitzed by Pre-ts Luffy's G2 speed. Rayleigh noticed pre-ts Luffy has base power to defeat even skilled Haki users so if they add Haki to that base, Luffy's powers would increase dramatically which is why they focused on Haki training.

A lot of marine who are not even vice-admirals uses CoA as we see them going to stop birdcage, even Tashigi uses it, Kuja fighters, some pirate named Raisin in Big mom pirates, all of them uses,

But only makes it a big difference if you have the base strength, its very important for someone like Sanji or Franky, but its not very important for Usopp and Nami.

Franky also have different weapons other than base strengths so he compansates that ability with science.

Monet defeated Haki user Tashigi.

They can still be formidable without learning CoA, and can beat some CoA users like I mentioned above.
 

Dr_Professor83

Professor Professor
#13
CoA will help Chopper tremendously. It would instantly make Monster Point legit imo. People forget how strong MP was pre TS. No haki is the biggest reason for the drop off. Ussop needs CoA to be able to hit logias. Nami doesn’t need CoA but she would benefit greatly from CoO to incorporate it into her evasion. She may not have the speed to dodge but CoO + Clima Tact Mirages would work wonders.
 
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Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
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Chopper is nearly always in hybrid form.... And since when was hybrid something a zoan has to unlock?

Wow I guess a humanoid deer, with fingers, toes, and the ability to talk from eating a magic human fruit isn’t considered hybrid but being giant in addition to the rest of said traits makes you so

Like he’s literally either 100% deer or half. Never is he fully human so you would think you’d hope he would unlock that
If I recall correctly it was never confirmed that Monster Point was Hybrid, or that any other Point represented it either way.

For instance it could very well have merely constituted a variation(s) of the Zoan Mode. I tend to be as careful as possible before speculating too massively.

Like for example Marco himself probably never unlocked it yet so far and some users thought he did just because they were spotting a new pattern. This is just an example to show how careful I am I suppose.
 
#16
If I recall correctly it was never confirmed that Monster Point was Hybrid, or that any other Point represented it either way.

For instance it could very well have merely constituted a variation(s) of the Zoan Mode. I tend to be as careful as possible before speculating too massively.

Like for example Marco himself probably never unlocked it yet so far and some users thought he did just because they were spotting a new pattern. This is just an example to show how careful I am I suppose.
Um no... What the hell are you?... You don’t unlock the standard abilities granted from a zoan and wtf are you blind or something? Marco is in his hybrid form damn near everytime he fights. But if you want to play dumb I could show you Kaku accessing hybrid form his very first day of having his fruit.

Let me explain to you how Zoans work, buddy?

The zoan user has their normal standard self, typically human.

They have half their normal self with half the traits of their zoan, granting them the best of both worlds (HYBRID)

Finally there is the full zoan transformation where they turn completely into whatever animal/mythical being their fruit is and are at their physically most powerful state.

Chopper for whatever reason can not turn into a 100% human, that is literally all. It’s so simple. Clearly he is hybrid but can’t go beyond.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#17
Um no... What the hell are you?... You don’t unlock the standard abilities granted from a zoan and wtf are you blind or something? Marco is in his hybrid form damn near everytime he fights. But if you want to play dumb I could show you Kaku accessing hybrid form his very first day of having his fruit.

Let me explain to you how Zoans work, buddy?

The zoan user has their normal standard self, typically human.

They have half their normal self with half the traits of their zoan, granting them the best of both worlds (HYBRID)

Finally there is the full zoan transformation where they turn completely into whatever animal/mythical being their fruit is and are at their physically most powerful state.

Chopper for whatever reason can not turn into a 100% human, that is literally all. It’s so simple. Clearly he is hybrid but can’t go beyond.
I'm not playing dumb and you are not really explaining anything here.

You don't really know whatever Chopper unleashed his Hybrid or not, you perhaps just assume it is so because that sounds possible, and yet I was highlighting that example just to show how some users tend to assume concepts too early. No more no less.

I'm still laughing at some users who thought that King had already gone Hybrid when he matched Sanji. Like where was the proof? If not the manga showed that Queen wasn't in Hybrid form when he took on Big Mom. Just to infer that this is an onions issue.
 
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