Powers & Abilities CoA vs Dinosaur + Cyborg Durability ?

[Chrono]

Which one is more protective ?

Zori fans hate on Sanji for defeating Queen who had no CoA on. Well how about poor Albert that had no Zoan Dino Protection on ? No Lunarian flame as well ? At the very least Queen had Branchisaourous Durability Combined with Cyborg Skeleton/Tendrons

So which one gave more Protection….King’s CoA or Queen’s Branchiosaurus + Cyborg Protection

 

[Gear]

King’s CoA>>>>>>>>

 

[Chrono]

King’s CoA>>>>>>>>

Any hype for his CoA ? Feats ?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Any hype for his CoA ? Feats ?

King was at least able to use hardening on his sword, proving his COA is superior to Queen's

 

[Chrono]

King was at least able to use hardening on his sword, proving his COA is superior to Queen's

First of all using CoA on his weapon is a fodder feat.
Secondly the point of the thread isnt who has better CoA.

Stop being antagonistic and answer the thread question. Do you believe King’s sole CoA is better defense than Queen’s Dino Skin + Cyborg skeleton.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

First of all using CoA on his weapon is a fodder feat.
Secondly the point of the thread isnt who has better CoA.

Stop being antagonistic and answer the thread question. Do you believe King’s sole CoA is better defense than Queen’s Dino Skin + Cyborg skeleton.

he wasn't just using CoA on his weapon, he was using hardening

a feat that isn't too common(at least in regards to weapons use). Zoro is the only supernova who has shown the ability to use hardening on his weapon, despite almost all of the supernova being confirmed CoA users. None of the tobi roppo nor the BMP veterans have shown this ability. Hell, even katakuri can't do it.

 

[Chrono]

he wasn't just using CoA on his weapon, he was using hardening

a feat that isn't too common(at least in regards to weapons use). Zoro is the only supernova who has shown the ability to use hardening on his weapon, despite almost all of the supernova being confirmed CoA users. None of the tobi roppo nor the BMP veterans have shown this ability. Hell, even katakuri can't do it.

Again fodder like Smoker could do it. Raisin can do it. Nobody cares.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

So yeah I think King's CoA is pretty advanced and gave him better protection than Queen's defense
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Again fodder like Smoker could do it. Nobody cares.

smoker isn't fodder
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neither is raisin

 

[Chrono]

So yeah I think King's CoA is pretty advanced and gave him better protection than Queen's defense

Fodder that Sanji oneshotted can do it.

Give legitimate feats.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Fodder that Sanji oneshotted can do it.

Give legitimate feats.

Sanji didn't bypass Raisin's CoA, he kicked him in the face

how does that prove that this isn't a strong CoA feat?
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Like raisin was portrayed to be a bad fighter, his haki specifically has never been portrayed to be weak
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WCI Luffy could probably do the same thing to wano kinemon, doesn't mean Luffy had better CoA

 

[Chrono]

Sanji didn't bypass Raisin's CoA, he kicked him in the face

how does that prove that this isn't a strong CoA feat?

Because Raisin is a fodder. How can you state its an advanced CoA feat.…when fodder like Raisin and Smoker can do it. Just because some other characters havent done it, doesnt mean they cant do it.
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Its retarded to think a 20 year old fodder Raisin has better CoA control then Queen. King’s CoA isnt impressive stop making up feats for him.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Because Raisin is a fodder. How can you state its an advanced CoA feat.…when fodder like Raisin and Smoker can do it. Just because some other characters havent done it, doesnt mean they cant do it.

Chrono, your argument is nonsense

Raisin showed a CoA feat that most of the supernova, tobi roppo, and BMP veterans haven't shown
However, he was defeated by Sanji, who out-sped him and kicked him in the face(which wasn't coated in haki)

You are arguing that Raisin's rare CoA feat is actually a fodder technique, despite tons of powerful characters not having it, because raisin was blitzed by sanji.
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But that aside, King's CoA was strong enough for him to parry with Zoro's CoA coated blades and even overpower Zoro's swords with his wing slash. In addition, I believe we saw King putting up something of a CoA barrier against one of the scabbards(who have ACoA)

Overall, it took an ACoA+ACoC coated slash from zoro to break this defense, so I'm pretty sure its stronger than Queen's body

 

[Finalbeta]

It depends on their levels, but on average CoA

 

[Chrono]

Chrono, your argument is nonsense

Raisin showed a CoA feat that most of the supernova, tobi roppo, and BMP veterans haven't shown
However, he was defeated by Sanji, who out-sped him and kicked him in the face(which wasn't coated in haki)

You are arguing that Raisin's rare CoA feat is actually a fodder technique, despite tons of powerful characters not having it, because raisin was blitzed by sanji.

Some mid tiers have shown it, some havent. Do you expect Oda to draw it for every character. A character showing hardening is enough to believe they can do it with their weapon as well

Raisin
Smoker
Vergo
Pica
etc
etc

Plenty of Mid tiers have shown it…yet you expect for it to be an advanced technique. Pls tell me where did Oda state its advanced technique ? Nowhere. Its not only your headcannon that you made up. Its literally supported by nothing cause weaklings can do it.

 

[RayanOO]

Zoro is the only supernova who has shown the ability to use hardening on his weapon

Apoo used it too against Drake and Zoro on his tonfa
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I don’t remember : King used COA to protect himself against Zoro attack ?

 

[Vongola Primo]

flying chicken vs thick beast

Queen's durability >> King's durability

 

[Herrera95]

King is not using CoA Protection.

Hard to scale Queen since he is only taking damage from fodders(Chopper and Pre power up Sanji) aside Marco. Even after Sanji's power up Oda made too ambiguos if Queen is taking damage or not. We could even argue that Sanji did very low damage until Ifrit Jambe.

 

[Finalbeta]

flying chicken vs thick beast

Queen's durability >> King's durability

I mean Queen himself hyped King as a God and King was so durable he was more durable than Kaido with his flames on if we parallel the gap between the two Tatsumaki attacks.

 

[Welkin]

Idk if King’s CoA is anything to write home about since it wasn’t really hyped by anyone

His Lunarian defense is on another level but I can’t seem to recall him using visual CoA for anything other than coating his blade

Queen might’ve used it defensively more than King

 

[S.W317]

Actually the basic levels of armament are 3 and they are not superior to one another but their usage is different; the first level or CoA1 is the invisible one where it reinforces your body and turns you into an immovable wall, the second CoA koka or CoA 2 hardens your skin and weaponise it, the third one is wearing your excess haki like a suite of armor. So according to your fighting style you’ll train the one that’s most suitable for them.