Current Events Common sense obliterates Sanji fans once more! At what point will that fandom use logic and stop twisting facts for fake Ws?
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5 strongest characters that Zoro ever defeated 1 vs 1
Compared to
5 strongest characters that Sanji ever defeated 1 vs 1
SAYS ALL of the difference in strength
And S-Hawk and S-Bear weren't considered for Zoro just to avoid controversy, but they could very well be there, imagine with that...
Both are Wings but we now know for sure that there is some internal hierarchy between Wings, they aren't meant to be equal, one can be stronger than the other
And we know well who is N2 from countless consistent statements, the delusion of a character about themselves isn't going to change those statements from people from the world of One Piece and from the author himself
Unless we want to acknowledge Usopp as vice captain and Krieg as the strongest guy around just because they claimed that...
In fact it's no coincidence that Hajrudin mocked Gaban for just not letting go
Compared to
5 strongest characters that Sanji ever defeated 1 vs 1
SAYS ALL of the difference in strength
And S-Hawk and S-Bear weren't considered for Zoro just to avoid controversy, but they could very well be there, imagine with that...
Both are Wings but we now know for sure that there is some internal hierarchy between Wings, they aren't meant to be equal, one can be stronger than the other
And we know well who is N2 from countless consistent statements, the delusion of a character about themselves isn't going to change those statements from people from the world of One Piece and from the author himself
Unless we want to acknowledge Usopp as vice captain and Krieg as the strongest guy around just because they claimed that...
In fact it's no coincidence that Hajrudin mocked Gaban for just not letting go
Zoro haters just trying to pull Zoro down and everyone associated with him now. Gaban looked like a complete clown trying with the second strongest thing instead of telling the M3 and giants on how to damage HKs and save his child and Elbaf.
Right when Gaban is made Sanjis parallel, Luffy AND Zoro are paralleled with Roger instead of Roger and Ray.
Right when Gaban is made Sanjis parallel, Luffy AND Zoro are paralleled with Roger instead of Roger and Ray.
The issue with ztards
they think being near Sanji is somehow pulling Zoro down, as if they don't fight the same near equals characters in almost every battle arc LMAO
This is just wrong, in the raws the language used is more akin to skill. Not literally standing side by side the captains LMAO
they think being near Sanji is somehow pulling Zoro down, as if they don't fight the same near equals characters in almost every battle arc LMAO
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This is just wrong, in the raws the language used is more akin to skill. Not literally standing side by side the captains LMAO
Wrong, Zoro isn't being pulled down, Sanji is being pulled up.
The reason why people are messing with you guys is how easily y'all lose your shit over it and how much you were arguing about the gigantic gap between Zoro and Sanji when this was never the case. Many of you - I'm not sure if you believed it as well - truly believed that Gaban is completely irrelevant and won't even appear throughout the story when Oda basically said "nuh-uh.", it is what it is.
As a reminder, Oda isn't looking into feats as much as us powerscalers so portrayal, hype and narration always matter more than feats. That's why it's complete BS to assume Doflamingo is just YC3 level when the portrayal of this guy even surpasses current Crocodile.
The reason why people are messing with you guys is how easily y'all lose your shit over it and how much you were arguing about the gigantic gap between Zoro and Sanji when this was never the case. Many of you - I'm not sure if you believed it as well - truly believed that Gaban is completely irrelevant and won't even appear throughout the story when Oda basically said "nuh-uh.", it is what it is.
As a reminder, Oda isn't looking into feats as much as us powerscalers so portrayal, hype and narration always matter more than feats. That's why it's complete BS to assume Doflamingo is just YC3 level when the portrayal of this guy even surpasses current Crocodile.
"We knew that"
Bitches didnt even think gaban would appear in the current time.
Bitches didnt even think gaban would appear in the current time.
If the silhouette wasn't Shiki or Gaban, it was likely a whole new character. But given that I'd have no idea who or what the new character, is it's best to just bank on it being Gaban instead. Plus Shiki was already a very fishy option since Oda doesn"t like using him in canon due to his fruit not being good enough in his eyes.
Do you ever stop playing victim bro? Barely anyone has downscaled Zoro lmao. They’ve only upscaled Sanji. In fact Sanji fans are upscaling Zoro to god tier because it means Sanji will be right behind him too. It’s you who is being insecure because you think Sanji giving Zoro a remotely challenging fight means Zoro is being downscaled because you’ve made a sword swallowing fantasy 
I don't understand why Sanji fans are trying to rewrite history and pretend to be saints because the loudest and most obnoxious fandom throughout all of Elbaf has easily been Sanji fans. Zoro fans barely did anything (though this is mostly because Zoro himself barely did anything) while Sanji fans were constantly shitting on them throughout the arc. Even when he simply kicked Loki to see if he was really wounded he was getting slandered for being a scumbag which is weird to see coming from the fans of a character who said and tried multiple times to stalk women in a shower without being noticed.
And I understand a lot of it is a sort of clapback against Zoro fans, but, there's a point where it's obviously not just about repaying a debt. It's clearly much more personal after a while.
And I understand a lot of it is a sort of clapback against Zoro fans, but, there's a point where it's obviously not just about repaying a debt. It's clearly much more personal after a while.
Honestly, I don't think the Gorosei will primarly stay as Imu's companions or at least not in the way how they were shown in Egghead Island, given how Imu has the ability to summon and revive demon armies. We might be getting demon versions of characters who already died. Iirc, @Elder Lee Hung even came up with the theory that Imu - or the being behind Imu - might summon the 20 ancient kings of the kingdoms which will act as his real companions.
My point, many "maybes" but that's the point: The final war is unpredictable but with the reveal that Gaban isn't a nameless bum, it gives plenty of room when it comes to speculation, especially Sanji's true ceiling.
Also, winning 1vs1 against an admiral is basically the biggest W in this manga. It's like winning 1vs1 against any Yonko, lol.
Who says Mars will be Sanji's final opponent? An admiral could be his final opponent and that's more than enough considering that they are viewed as complete monsters in the One Piece world.
I don't think beating Mars extreme diff means he's equal to Roger. On the other hand, we don't know if anything happens with Sanji afterwards. Unlike Zoro - who has Mihawk as his ultimate enemy - there's plenty of room for speculation when it comes to Sanji's EOS opponent.
What I am saying is that Sanji's ceiling got huge upgrades. Furthermore, Roger would destroy Mars but how would it look with Demon Mars? Looking at Demon Brogy and Dorry - if both of them are on a completely different level compared to their "light peers", it would make the Gorosei even far more powerful.
I'm certain that the Gorosei are not in their demon form because they'd have horns and wings. I guess that'll happen as well.
My point, many "maybes" but that's the point: The final war is unpredictable but with the reveal that Gaban isn't a nameless bum, it gives plenty of room when it comes to speculation, especially Sanji's true ceiling.
Also, winning 1vs1 against an admiral is basically the biggest W in this manga. It's like winning 1vs1 against any Yonko, lol.
Who says Mars will be Sanji's final opponent? An admiral could be his final opponent and that's more than enough considering that they are viewed as complete monsters in the One Piece world.
I don't think beating Mars extreme diff means he's equal to Roger. On the other hand, we don't know if anything happens with Sanji afterwards. Unlike Zoro - who has Mihawk as his ultimate enemy - there's plenty of room for speculation when it comes to Sanji's EOS opponent.
What I am saying is that Sanji's ceiling got huge upgrades. Furthermore, Roger would destroy Mars but how would it look with Demon Mars? Looking at Demon Brogy and Dorry - if both of them are on a completely different level compared to their "light peers", it would make the Gorosei even far more powerful.
I'm certain that the Gorosei are not in their demon form because they'd have horns and wings. I guess that'll happen as well.
He is flat out superior, that’s why throughout the series he has better portrayal, better feats, stronger opponents and anything you can name.
There’s nothing that makes EL anything special. It’s just one of a number of fighting arcs - Arlong Park, Alabasta, EL, Dressrosa, Wano. There’s never been a good reason why it should be the only fighting arc that ever matters. AP Zoro looked far far better by virtue of being half dead during it, Alabasta ends with Zoro getting a bounty and Sanji not, Dressrosa ends with Zoro beating an opponent and Sanji not, Wano ends with Zoro getting the rooftop feats, ACoC and portrayal alongside Luffy while Sanji doesn’t.
Is Oda not “putting his money where his mouth is” in those arcs for some reason?
Anything other than Luffy > Zoro > Sanji is braindead.
There’s nothing that makes EL anything special. It’s just one of a number of fighting arcs - Arlong Park, Alabasta, EL, Dressrosa, Wano. There’s never been a good reason why it should be the only fighting arc that ever matters. AP Zoro looked far far better by virtue of being half dead during it, Alabasta ends with Zoro getting a bounty and Sanji not, Dressrosa ends with Zoro beating an opponent and Sanji not, Wano ends with Zoro getting the rooftop feats, ACoC and portrayal alongside Luffy while Sanji doesn’t.
Is Oda not “putting his money where his mouth is” in those arcs for some reason?
Anything other than Luffy > Zoro > Sanji is braindead.