Current Events Common sense obliterates Sanji fans once more! At what point will that fandom use logic and stop twisting facts for fake Ws?
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No we’re not. We’re given a panel of Mihawk focusing.
Again you’re creating off panel crap to justify a narrative that goes against what’s shown. If Mihawk knew crocodile was attacking him he wouldn’t have reacted to crocodile after the block. He’d have said crocodile in the panel zoomed in on his eyes.
Mihawk got blocked. There’s no shame in it but that’s what happened. We don’t need to make stuff up to justify it
You say it’s me hyping croc but I’ve yet to see a single non Zoro fan say Croc got blocked here.
Mihawk blocking crocodile is such a twist of the images to justify a fandom narrative instead of just looking at the images and seeing the intent.
Again you’re creating off panel crap to justify a narrative that goes against what’s shown. If Mihawk knew crocodile was attacking him he wouldn’t have reacted to crocodile after the block. He’d have said crocodile in the panel zoomed in on his eyes.
Mihawk got blocked. There’s no shame in it but that’s what happened. We don’t need to make stuff up to justify it
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You say it’s me hyping croc but I’ve yet to see a single non Zoro fan say Croc got blocked here.
Mihawk blocking crocodile is such a twist of the images to justify a fandom narrative instead of just looking at the images and seeing the intent.
You've yet to see a non Zoro fan say it because most people on here that don't like Zoro would do anything to downplay him and the people associated to him. Even if it means denying that someone who has arguably top 3 CoO/reactions in the verse some how didn't see Crocodile flying at him in broad day light right in front of him.
Now that I’ve proved you wrong are you willing to admit it? Or should I tag you in more, because there are more.
At certain points in the story Zoro is highlighted while at others Sanji is. So I talk about whichever one is more relevant at the time.
The threads I tagged you in I made as a Zoro fan and a Luffy fan.
At certain points in the story Zoro is highlighted while at others Sanji is. So I talk about whichever one is more relevant at the time.
The threads I tagged you in I made as a Zoro fan and a Luffy fan.
Again not everyone hates Zoro or is constantly trying to downplay him. Some people just aren’t making up off screen moments to justify a narrative.
You’re trying to change what happened because it doesn’t match your personal scaling of these characters. But this is oda, dude doesn’t give a fuck about small feats. Yeah warlords can fight each other because they’re warlords is how oda would explain this shit.
You’re trying to change what happened because it doesn’t match your personal scaling of these characters. But this is oda, dude doesn’t give a fuck about small feats. Yeah warlords can fight each other because they’re warlords is how oda would explain this shit.
El is special because the usual cope of people saying zoro are opponents significantly stronger than sanji opponents is just flat out stopped dead in its tracks. You yourself in the past has even acknowledged that sanji are zoro equal in el.
This is why oda is putting his money where his mouth is its so blatant Sanji ~ Zoro that you had to incredibly baised to ignore it.
As for other arcs in wano you had sanji and zoro defeat king and queen. Now I know the reply will be king >>> queen even though that is not the case which is why I brought up El initially.
Then on egghead you had sanji looking better than zoro and luffy against the seraphim and styling on kizaru. But hey maybe it doesn't matter because it was the boots doing all the work and saturn eye diff him.
This is why oda is putting his money where his mouth is its so blatant Sanji ~ Zoro that you had to incredibly baised to ignore it.
As for other arcs in wano you had sanji and zoro defeat king and queen. Now I know the reply will be king >>> queen even though that is not the case which is why I brought up El initially.
Then on egghead you had sanji looking better than zoro and luffy against the seraphim and styling on kizaru. But hey maybe it doesn't matter because it was the boots doing all the work and saturn eye diff him.
I couldn't give less of a shit, man, so please stop spreading this nonsense. It's not about my personal feelings becuase we've seen things like Sommers blocking and matching Gaban for a solid minute before getting obliterated. I KNOW that high tiers or low top tiers can match top tiers and even god tiers in some very rare occasions. And I also have Croc after the retcon at YC1+ level. So, COULD he block a casual Mihawk's attack? Yes, obviously, since Vista (who's below Croc) did the EXACT SAME! My point is that he DIDN'T show the ability to do so on panel. Again, hence Oda showing an impact mark in the panel immediately after Mihawk looking at Croc. Mihawk blocked it on impact. That's just the way it's drawn.
I’ll be very surprised if, after the slow burn build up of the Gorosei over years finally going into overdrive to reveal that they are practically immortal demons, that Oda then tosses that aside to reveal there are… more immortal demons but older immortal demons. Or dead immortal demons, or whatever.
Like, in this theory is Zoro not fighting Nasujuro, but instead is another Ethanbaron that rises from the dead and fulfills the exact same role, with the only difference being one is centuries old, and another is even older? Or is he fighting both, which is even more baffling.
Replacing Saturn after he got to be main villain for an arc specifically with Shanks’s father to set up the Figarlands as major EoS players is one thing, replacing the rest with characters who are practically the exact same before the others really get to do anything is a different story.
It’s very unlikely that an Admiral becomes Zoro or Sanji’s final opponent. They are tied too closely with Akainu as his equivalent of commanders, and Akainu has no shot of being the final villain.
It makes more sense that the Gorosei’s transformations (and Shamrock’s sword) are part of their own contract with Imu for immorality. And that’s why they got the strange introductions that don’t mention DFs, unlike with Gunko, Sommers and Killingham. Dorry and Broggy’s is a generic devil transformation that’s main purpose is to force a good character (white) into a bad (black).
The Gorosei are unlikely to have needed to be forced, and they already have their own unique demonic transformations, as opposed to the giants getting generic devil ones.
Like, is Peter supposed to become a flying bat worm with horns?
Like, in this theory is Zoro not fighting Nasujuro, but instead is another Ethanbaron that rises from the dead and fulfills the exact same role, with the only difference being one is centuries old, and another is even older? Or is he fighting both, which is even more baffling.
Replacing Saturn after he got to be main villain for an arc specifically with Shanks’s father to set up the Figarlands as major EoS players is one thing, replacing the rest with characters who are practically the exact same before the others really get to do anything is a different story.
It’s very unlikely that an Admiral becomes Zoro or Sanji’s final opponent. They are tied too closely with Akainu as his equivalent of commanders, and Akainu has no shot of being the final villain.
It makes more sense that the Gorosei’s transformations (and Shamrock’s sword) are part of their own contract with Imu for immorality. And that’s why they got the strange introductions that don’t mention DFs, unlike with Gunko, Sommers and Killingham. Dorry and Broggy’s is a generic devil transformation that’s main purpose is to force a good character (white) into a bad (black).
The Gorosei are unlikely to have needed to be forced, and they already have their own unique demonic transformations, as opposed to the giants getting generic devil ones.
Like, is Peter supposed to become a flying bat worm with horns?
At no point have I ever said that Sanji was equal to Zoro in EL. The closest they’ve been, yeah, but not equals.
And even in EL, Zoro gets the stronger opponent, Zoro gets the opponent who had the key they were all fighting for, Zoro walks put with the bigger bounty, Zoro is the one to make the stand about Usopp. EL is followed by Zoro getting the power up of Shushui in TB, the superior portrayal against Kuma and then in the following arc being a Supernova while Sanji’s isn’t.
That’s all portrayal that matters. The story does not begin and end with doriki.
And nothing else happened in Wano at all?
Like, did I just imagine Zoro’s feats against Kaido or Big Mom?
Or are we just meant to say that Sanji could do the same because fifteen years ago Kaku‘s doriki was a bit higher than Jabra’s?
He kicked S-Shark who was midway through attacking Nami and a nameless punch, it was hardly the battle of the century.
And styling on Kizaru consisted of blocking one attack, where Kizaru literally had his eyes closed because he didn‘t want to do it, and being booted in the head and being unable to stop Kizaru from stabbing Vegapunk.
And even in EL, Zoro gets the stronger opponent, Zoro gets the opponent who had the key they were all fighting for, Zoro walks put with the bigger bounty, Zoro is the one to make the stand about Usopp. EL is followed by Zoro getting the power up of Shushui in TB, the superior portrayal against Kuma and then in the following arc being a Supernova while Sanji’s isn’t.
That’s all portrayal that matters. The story does not begin and end with doriki.
And nothing else happened in Wano at all?
Like, did I just imagine Zoro’s feats against Kaido or Big Mom?
Or are we just meant to say that Sanji could do the same because fifteen years ago Kaku‘s doriki was a bit higher than Jabra’s?
He kicked S-Shark who was midway through attacking Nami and a nameless punch, it was hardly the battle of the century.
And styling on Kizaru consisted of blocking one attack, where Kizaru literally had his eyes closed because he didn‘t want to do it, and being booted in the head and being unable to stop Kizaru from stabbing Vegapunk.
Do you ever stop playing victim bro? Barely anyone has downscaled Zoro lmao. They’ve only upscaled Sanji. In fact Sanji fans are upscaling Zoro to god tier because it means Sanji will be right behind him too. It’s you who is being insecure because you think Sanji giving Zoro a remotely challenging fight means Zoro is being downscaled because you’ve made a sword swallowing fantasy 
The truth is that you know Sanji and Luffy are never shown as equal, hence when the same sentence is used to push Sanji = Zoro is not used to push Sanji = Luffy. When your strongest attack only gets an ouch from Luffy you really can't push this narrative.
Rays portrayal clears Gabans but you are taking Gabans level as shown and pulling Ray down because Gaban was in his mind competing with Ray.
On one hand you have canon info of Garp who has fought against Roger and WB pirates compare Ray to WB as legends and now you have people pulling Prime Ray down to Yamato level ACoC and not being able to sky split. Or shit like Gaban being stronger than Oden and Kaido when in fact we have Oden ranked equal to Roger, WB, Rocks and Shanks.
I explained above why that is not entirely the case.
Dont wanna get into Doffy power scaling, always derails the thread and specially when you add portrayal into it.
Incredible level of delusion.
And ray being called a legend like WB, Roger's rival, put Zori at Law and Kidd level, just sayin.
So predictable, already knew what you were going to say. It's no fun arguing with a midget stuck in a little treasure chest.
Dont wanna get into Doffy power scaling, always derails the thread and specially when you add portrayal into it.
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Incredible level of delusion.
And ray being called a legend like WB, Roger's rival, put Zori at Law and Kidd level, just sayin.
Save me the word salad lmao. This is just yet another case of you being insecure and thinking it’s Rayleigh being pulled down instead of Gaban being pulled up because you can’t comprehend number 3s being strong. If Rayleigh is 100 then Gaban is 99 🤷♂️ Gaban being close to him doesn’t take away anything Rayleigh does it just means Gaban does 99% of them too
Lol @ near equals. Learn to read. And yes it is pulling Zoro down when the guy being pushed as his equal only is able to get an ouch from G5 Luffy with his strongest attack while combining it with two other attacks.
Just worry about your fav being below EoS Sanji, imagine Law being worse than being able to get only an ouch from Luffy.
Just worry about your fav being below EoS Sanji, imagine Law being worse than being able to get only an ouch from Luffy.
It's just that simple.
Luffy 100, zori 90, sanjino 89.
Some characters are built different, the strongest need no excuses.
Godfy just built different, that's why he saves the world when others are dead on the floor.
Luffy 100, zori 90, sanjino 89.
Some characters are built different, the strongest need no excuses.
Godfy just built different, that's why he saves the world when others are dead on the floor.