Nope, your making shit up now. Aizen has never once been implied to affect futures. His KS only messes with the opponents senses and that’s all that was stated he did to Yhwach at the time. Same with the arrow who tagged Yhwach by hitting him from behind
Garou does the same thing by being casually too fast for Yhwach to ever even register
Nope, your making shit up now. Aizen has never once been implied to affect futures. His KS only messes with the opponents senses and that’s all that was stated he did to Yhwach at the time. Same with the arrow who tagged Yhwach by hitting him from behind
Garou does the same thing by being casually too fast for Yhwach to ever even register
I don't mean he was changing the future, I probably worded that wrong, I mean he's changing how Yhwach sees the futures
I'm now ignoring whenever you bring up the arrow, enjoy talking to yourself about it
Garou does what exactly? Pastes Yhwach even though Yhwach is far stronger as he was busting the Bleach verse? Yhwach revives himself, Garou can't do shit about that at all
Can Garou take away all of Yhwach's powers? No
Can Garou stop Yhwach from changing the future? No
I don't mean he was changing the future, I probably worded that wrong, I mean he's changing how Yhwach sees the futures
I'm now ignoring whenever you bring up the arrow, enjoy talking to yourself about it
Garou does what exactly? Pastes Yhwach even though Yhwach is far stronger as he was busting the Bleach verse? Yhwach revives himself, Garou can't do shit about that at all
Can Garou take away all of Yhwach's powers? No
Can Garou stop Yhwach from changing the future? No
Your ignoring it because you got no answer. Aizen did nothing beyond making himself look like Ichigo so nope
Yhwach has no destructive feats above Saitama sneezing half of Jupiter away and got splattered by barely country level trash like Ichigo twice
Doesn’t need to take away his power. Can kill Yhwach with a casual finger flick and just needs to do it twice for Yhwach to say dead. With his speed,
He can kill Yhwach dozens of times over before Quincy Hitler’ brain processes it
Cosmic Garou bodies the entire Clorox verse and nothing of value was lost
Your ignoring it because you got no answer. Aizen did nothing beyond making himself look like Ichigo so nope
Yhwach has no destructive feats above Saitama sneezing half of Jupiter away and got splattered by barely country level trash like Ichigo twice
Doesn’t need to take away his power. Can kill Yhwach with a casual finger flick and just needs to do it twice for Yhwach to say dead. With his speed,
He can kill Yhwach dozens of times over before Quincy Hitler’ brain processes it
Cosmic Garou bodies the entire Clorox verse and nothing of value was lost
Ignoring it because I've answered it several times, you may want to drag people in circles with you doesn't mean everyones going to fall for it
He changes Yhwach's visions of the future, that's blatantly the only explanation
Yhwach was busting the Bleach verse which consists of multiple realms, two of which have galaxies and stars in the sky, he negs Saitama and manhandles him like he were a child
Let's say Garou can one shot Yhwach even though he can't, Yhwach revives, Garou does it again, Yhwach revives
You're creating this bullshit limit that Yhwach can only revive himself once or something, this goes to show how fucking disingenuous you are, Yhwach can manipulate the future as much as he wants.
Even if Garou can kill Yhwach a trillion times per second, Yhwach just revives, cope seethe cry about it however you wish, it's not going to change.
Even far fodder Bleach characters than Yhwach neg Garou, Lille for example, he makes Garou and the entire OPMverse his bitches
Ignoring it because I've answered it several times, you may want to drag people in circles with you doesn't mean everyones going to fall for it
He changes Yhwach's visions of the future, that's blatantly the only explanation
Yhwach was busting the Bleach verse which consists of multiple realms, two of which have galaxies and stars in the sky, he negs Saitama and manhandles him like he were a child
Let's say Garou can one shot Yhwach even though he can't, Yhwach revives, Garou does it again, Yhwach revives
You're creating this bullshit limit that Yhwach can only revive himself once or something, this goes to show how fucking disingenuous you are, Yhwach can manipulate the future as much as he wants.
Even if Garou can kill Yhwach a trillion times per second, Yhwach just revives, cope seethe cry about it however you wish, it's not going to change.
Even far fodder Bleach characters than Yhwach neg Garou, Lille for example, he makes Garou and the entire OPMverse his bitches
No explanation what’s given and shown: Yhwach falling for a literal Substitution Jutsu. Your putting more thought into this than Kubo did.
I’ll level with you. Citation of Aizen’s KS affecting even Yhwach’s future vision being stated
As well as the plot arrow doing anything to be able to hit Yhwach beyond it being fired at his back
Yhwach’s never busted a planet. Couldn’t even destroy all of Soul Society in one shot which was going to take time before he was shot with the arrow.
I’m not being disingenuous. Yhwach revived once, than died for good. Same with Soul King whose powers including Almighty were shut down by simply tearing his body to pieces.
No explanation what’s given and shown: Yhwach falling for a literal Substitution Jutsu. Your putting more thought into this than Kubo did.
I’ll level with you. Citation of Aizen’s KS affecting even Yhwach’s future vision being stated
As well as the plot arrow doing anything to be able to hit Yhwach beyond it being fired at his back
Yhwach’s never busted a planet. Couldn’t even destroy all of Soul Society in one shot which was going to take time before he was shot with the arrow.
I’m not being disingenuous. Yhwach revived once, than died for good. Same with Soul King whose powers including Almighty were shut down by simply tearing his body to pieces.
No, you're putting the bare minimum thought into it equivalent to a toddlers because you just want to downplay it as much as you possibly can, that's like your sole existence here, to roam the Multiversal Battledome board and shit on Bleach characters, you're completely pathetic.
Aizen literally stated that you dumbass
And it makes sense logically, Aizen's ability manipulates the senses, Yhwach's ability to see the future can be considered a sense, and Aizen himself implies he's completely unaware of what Yhwach is seeing, blatantly because Aizen himself cannot see the future and therefore has no idea how it's being changed.
Ignored
Was in the process of busting the Bleach verse which is >>>> any feat in OPM, unless you think Jupiter is bigger than galaxies and stars which wouldn't surprise me given your previous posts.
You are fucking disingenuous lmao, so much so that people other than me have called you out on it.
So you're going to ignore the fact that it's blatantly stated in the novel that the Soul King let that happen? You just got finished saying you're not disingenuous and then follow it up with a completely disingenuous statement.
No, you're putting the bare minimum thought into it equivalent to a toddlers because you just want to downplay it as much as you possibly can, that's like your sole existence here, to roam the Multiversal Battledome board and shit on Bleach characters, you're completely pathetic.
Aizen literally stated that you dumbass
And it makes sense logically, Aizen's ability manipulates the senses, Yhwach's ability to see the future can be considered a sense, and Aizen himself implies he's completely unaware of what Yhwach is seeing, blatantly because Aizen himself cannot see the future and therefore has no idea how it's being changed.
Sorry, I did ask for a cite since I can’t be expected to remember garbage. I’ll concede KS affecting whatever future foresight but the arrow still stands
Was in the process of busting the Bleach verse which is >>>> any feat in OPM, unless you think Jupiter is bigger than galaxies and stars which wouldn't surprise me given your previous posts.
Never even came close to busting even the Earth and assuming he affects anything outside the planet Soul Society is on is pure assumption that goes against basically anything the verse has ever shown
You are fucking disingenuous lmao, so much so that people other than me have called you out on it.
Could care less for the opinion of Bleach fanboys regardless of the number
So you're going to ignore the fact that it's blatantly stated in the novel that the Soul King let that happen? You just got finished saying you're not disingenuous and then follow it up with a completely disingenuous statement.
He only allowed himself to be sealed and reduced to a limbless torso. By the time he got angry about his fate and had second thoughts, it was too late, his powers were already gone and he couldn’t undo it.
Sorry, I did ask for a cite since I can’t be expected to remember garbage. I’ll concede KS affecting whatever future foresight but the arrow still stands
Concession accepted
Never even came close to busting just the Earth and assuming he affects anything outside the planet Soul Society on us pure assumption that goes against basically anything the verse has ever shown
Could care less for the opinion of Bleach fanboys regardless of the number
He only allowed himself to be sealed and reduced to a limbless torso. By the time he got angry about his fate and had second thoughts, it was too late, his powers were already gone and he couldn’t undo it.
You can't remember the things you try so hard to downplay? Not surprising, you don't need to remember them in order to downplay. The arrow is irrelevant and you can keep bringing it up pointlessly all you want
Doesn't matter what you think he came close to, it matters what he was planning to do and what was stated to have occured if he wasn't stopped, you cannot deny that he was going to bust the realms and would've done so as stated multiple times.
I'm sure you consider anyone that calls you out for being disingenuous a "Bleach fanboy" lmao, as I said, completely pathetic.
What are you even arguing here?
You realize that the Soul King as we see him is essentially dead right? They didn't just cut off his limbs, they scooped out his organs such as his brain and his heart. He's in a similar state as Yhwach is after his powers are removed and Ichigo cuts him in half, this is why Yhwach refers to the Soul King Palace as a grave and it's stated in the novel that the Soul King is pretty much in a vegetative state between life and death, he cannot use The Almighty because his power is sealed and he's in a vegetative state.
Yhwach's power isn't sealed here and he's not in a vegetative state, you're just grasping at straws trying whatever you can to give Garou a way of winning, but unfortunately that doesn't exist, Garou gets absolutely negged and Yhwach doesn't even need The Almighty or even the Sternritter powers that he's stated to have in order to do it, raw power is enough.
You can't remember the things you try so hard to downplay? Not surprising, you don't need to remember them in order to downplay. The arrow is irrelevant and you can keep bringing it up pointlessly all you want
Also, while he did get messed up by KS to allow Ichigo to stab him, he was aware enough that he had been hit in the back to look around yet still couldn’t stop from getting blasted by a Getsuga Tensho, further proof his power still requires his perception and reactions
Doesn't matter what you think he came close to, it matters what he was planning to do and what was stated to have occured if he wasn't stopped, you cannot deny that he was going to bust the realms and would've done so as stated multiple times.
Nope but you yourself are as well as the ones your mentioning.
You realize that the Soul King as we see him is essentially dead right? They didn't just cut off his limbs, they scooped out his organs such as his brain and his heart. He's in a similar state as Yhwach is after his powers are removed and Ichigo cuts him in half, this is why Yhwach refers to the Soul King Palace as a grave and it's stated in the novel that the Soul King is pretty much in a vegetative state between life and death, he cannot use The Almighty because his power is sealed and he's in a vegetative state.
So in other words, Garou just needs to pulverize Yhwach, why he does just by swinging in his direction
Yhwach's power isn't sealed here and he's not in a vegetative state, you're just grasping at straws trying whatever you can to give Garou a way of winning, but unfortunately that doesn't exist, Garou gets absolutely negged and Yhwach doesn't even need The Almighty or even the Sternritter powers that he's stated to have in order to do it, raw power is enough.
He will be in a vegetative state at least by Garou and sealing isnt required. Removing eniugj body parts was all it took to take away Soul King’s Almighty
Also, while he did get messed up by KS to allow Ichigo to stab him, he was aware enough that he had been hit in the back to look around yet still couldn’t stop from getting blasted by a Getsuga Tensho, further proof his power still requires his perception and reactions
Matters a lot. Based on the showing, you can’t even call it busting. More like degrading it over time in a manner that means nothing in a fight.
Nope but you yourself are as well as the ones your mentioning.
So in other words, Garou just needs to pulverize Yhwach, why he does just by swinging in his direction
He will be in a vegetative state at least by Garou and sealing isnt required. Removing eniugj body parts was all it took to take away Soul King’s Almighty
Not going back to this, I already debunked your stupid ass using the manga, something you blatantly haven't read.
How does it mean nothing when he's doing it with his power? If Yhwach can use his Reiatsu to bust the verse, he can also use that Reiatsu offensively and defensively with Blut.
Sure bro, everyone that disagrees with you is a Bleach fan
No, ideally he'd need some way of removing Yhwach's power, good luck with that though given that even Ichibe and his ability to manipulate concepts couldn't pull it off
Also, you seem to be forgetting that Yhwach was reduced to a puddle of black shit after Ichigo cut him in half, and yet Yhwach still revived himself
Putting the Soul King in a state between life and death
Removing his limbs and internal organs
And then sealing his power
That's all required, too bad Garou's fodder ass can't even do one of these things lmao
Haven’t done a thing other than dodge the arrow feat
How does it mean nothing when he's doing it with his power? If Yhwach can use his Reiatsu to bust the verse, he can also use that Reiatsu offensively and defensively with Blut.
Definitely not Bleach tards like the one I’m talking with right now.
No, ideally he'd need some way of removing Yhwach's power, good luck with that though given that even Ichibe and his ability to manipulate concepts couldn't pull it off
Blowing his body to pieces at most a few times is enough based on both Yhwach and Soul King’s shown limits.
Also, you seem to be forgetting that Yhwach was reduced to a puddle of black shit after Ichigo cut him in half, and yet Yhwach still revived himself
Putting the Soul King in a state between life and death
Nope, the novels themselves say simply removing his limbs and mutilating him enough to take away his power.
“Then the Osho himself uttered a cruel fact in the same tone he might use to merely discuss the weather. “Well, that likely was not enough. With the Tsunayashiro leading them, several of the ancestors spent a great deal of time carving out the Reio’s heart, whittling away his legs, scraping out all of his internal organs and removing them from his body. They did this in order to carve away his power and to render him simply a convenient figurehead for their benefit.”
Garou will basically being doing that amount of damage by breathing in Yhwach’s direction and would only need to splatter Yhwach a couple times at best.
Come back to me when Clorox finally has that on-panel planet busting feat you’ve been praying to Kubo every day for.
Until then, Garou still bodies the verse with ease
He doesn't. The only time he didn't percieve somehting is when Aizen's KS was involved who can alter what Yhwach can see in his vision. He effectively changes all the futures he can see. KS is just that powerful. Garou has no hax like that.
Dying once. He technically never died the first time since he brought himself back from the dead using fate hax, which essentially means it never happened. I've already explained how he died the 2nd time (if you wanna be technical he's not dead or alive rn)
Never demonstrated them even when he needed any of them such as when he got killed. Planetary is laughably below Garou and Universal Yhwach is just LOL
He doesn't need to demonstrate them. A narrator objectively stated that he has them, your subjective opinion means nothing. If you need to ignore the narrative to make an argument then try again because this "argument" can be dismissed. You can ask WHY he never used them, but he definitely had them.
We got Uryu outright saying the effects are already wearing off and the arrow itself only lasting a moment. Yhwach still dies a slow death afterwards without ever coming back again.
No, Uryu did not outright say the effects are already wearing off. He thought Ichigo wasn't going to make it, we can clearly see Yhwach still had a single iris which you have not yet disproven.
Can't really say it was a slow death when we don't really have a timeframe for it, but even if it was, the arrow was still in effect and we can see this throughout the entire interaction between him and Ichigo.
Point is he never came back well after the arrows effect should logically be applied. Further shown by the Soul King losing all his powers from being torn apart
He never came back after the arrow's effect because he was dead when the Almighty was turned off. You wanna talk about logic but can't seem to make a logical argument. If he came back from death because the was Almighty active, then logically he wouldn't be able to do the same if the Almighty was not active.
The Soul King didn't lose all his power, he had the reiryoku (energy) to passively hold the realms since their creation. His powers got split into multiple different beings and spread apart by people who are also strong, but he allowed them to happen. Yhwach himself is called his son, but we don't know if that's literal or metaphorical because Yhwach could be a piece of the soul king itself like Mimihagi and Pernida.
Maybe we'll get a better explanation in the hell arc, who knows.
You can use this logic, but then I can use the logic of:
Yhwach can see everything that will unfold in the future, he will "know" everything he sees, and all the "powers" he knows will take his side. Not only can they not be used to defeat him, but they cannot even be used to harm him
Except Uryu was in front of him, only way he can shoot him from behind while being in front of him is his ability. It's heavily implied that that is how Uryu used the arrow, but we can confirm this when the anime showcases the event.
Aizen’s illusions working on Yhwach presents the exact same problem I’ve been arguing: Yhwach is dependent on what he’s able to percieve to change the future according
There is a difference between manipulating someone's perception through hax and blitzing them through speed. Yhwach's perception can see and understand infinite futures simultaneously, Garou has not shown anything to blitz such perception. Aizen didn't use speed, he used hax.
Nope, your making shit up now. Aizen has never once been implied to affect futures. His KS only messes with the opponents senses and that’s all that was stated he did to Yhwach at the time. Same with the arrow who tagged Yhwach by hitting him from behind
He was going to destroy the cosmology and reshape it. Ichigo isn't beyond country level? I dunno what downplayed scaling you are using, but I'm not going to go further than this since this is a whole separate discussion.
Finger flick and then what? Yhwach comes back. Garou has no answer to fate manipulation hax, probability manipulation, and all these other hax at his disposal.
No explanation given? That is not true at all, we see an explanation for it, but somehow you missed it. It was definitely rushed due to Kubo's failing health, but there was a reasonable explanation for it.
Can't say A planet when it was multiple realms, the garganta, the dangai. The entire cosmology was being affected, so unless you are saying Bleach's cosmology consists of 3 planets then this argument makes no sense.
Sure bro, keep hanging onto the arrow as if it's the only argument you have
He's busting the realms, the lowest that can be argued is planetary, but that's like the absolute low ball, highest would be universal/multiversal and fairest would be some cosmic range
Yes, everyone that humiliates your ass in a debate is a Bleach tard
He's busting the realms, the lowest that can be argued is planetary, but that's like the absolute low ball, highest would be universal/multiversal and fairest would be some cosmic range
Already refuted the Getsuga one and you conceded, now you're trying to backpedal
Cool, doesn't change that it's stated he was going to bust the realms and also stated that he'd have done so if not stopped:holdthisl:
Every post you've made on this site has just been in self-humilation, you must get pleasure out of being made to look like a joke
Already refuted the Getsuga one and you conceded, now you're trying to backpedal
Cool, doesn't change that it's stated he was going to bust the realms and also stated that he'd have done so if not stopped:holdthisl:
Every post you've made on this site has just been in self-humilation, you must get pleasure out of being made to look like a joke
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