Speculations Could Black Maria be the strongest tobi roppo? Sanji vs Maria

#1
So at the moment, it seems as if Oda is setting up Sanji to fight Black Maria, as hard to believe as it is.

If Oda isn't doing this, then I think that what we saw this chapter is simply bad writing. Oda would be writing in subplots that go nowhere just to fill up a chapter. As to how this will come about, I have no idea. Perhaps Black Maria will be revealed to be an okama, perhaps Sanji will temporarily become an okama to fight black maria.

If Sanji temporarily becomes an okama, then there wouldn't be anything wrong with him fighting black maria. Because in that case it wouldn't be a man fighting a woman. Okama Sanji, having the heart of a maiden, wouldn't be a man, at least as far as gender expression goes. He wouldn't break his code and overall this could be an interesting fight. As one of Luffy's top fighters, sanji cannot have a weakness to women, so to speak. If he does, what will he do if big mom ever comes for Luffy? Perhaps his training as an okama could provide him a way to fight women while maintaining his code.

But that is besides the point. Overall, unless we are assuming that Oda is writing in subplots, in a manga that is already nearly 1000 chapters , that go nowhere, Sanji will likely fight black maria.

Hence, I think this raises question about Maria's rank amongst the tobi roppo. While Who's Who and Sasaki seem to be portrayed as the strongest, in reality they are just the ones that want the position of all star. I think its entirely possible for Maria to be above WW and Sasaki but not be their rivals simply because she doesn't want to be an all star.

Given that Sanji will likely fight her, I think this is a big possibility. But even more than just that, I think there is one other major thing that sets Maria apart from all of the other tobi roppo. That being her race. Black Maria has been shown to be as big as Kaido and has red horns just like yamato.

Due to this, I think it is very likely that Black Maria is from the same race as Kaido. Now I'm not going to jump the gun on this translation, because I'm very skeptical about it and think its very possible that it was butchered, but in the chapter, yamato's wording when she talks about dragons makes it sound less like she's talking about a devil fruit power and more like she's talking about the powers of natural dragons.

Could Kaido be a dragon? And if you think so, then what are the chances that black maria is one as well? I'm really not a fan of this theory but the translation makes it seem possible, so I will put that out there.

Maria being a dragon would actually serve to be a good fight for Sanji. She would be able to fly and use flame abilities, just like he can.

Anyways, to sum it up, I think Sanji vs Maria will happen. And that Maria will be the strongest tobi roppo, the YC4 of the beast piratess.
 
#5
I think it will just outsmart her and escape or they will be interrupted by allie allow him to escape just like the Yamato vs Sasaki situation
 

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#11
Exactly the reason why Sanji v Black Maria is just an utopia.

There's no sensible reason as to why Oda will make Sanji break his moral code when substantially nothing has even triggered that.

For now it is almost certainly conceivable that it shall be someone to save the cook and then take on Black Maria Maria fundamentally.
 
#12
So at the moment, it seems as if Oda is setting up Sanji to fight Black Maria, as hard to believe as it is.

If Oda isn't doing this, then I think that what we saw this chapter is simply bad writing. Oda would be writing in subplots that go nowhere just to fill up a chapter. As to how this will come about, I have no idea. Perhaps Black Maria will be revealed to be an okama, perhaps Sanji will temporarily become an okama to fight black maria.

If Sanji temporarily becomes an okama, then there wouldn't be anything wrong with him fighting black maria. Because in that case it wouldn't be a man fighting a woman. Okama Sanji, having the heart of a maiden, wouldn't be a man, at least as far as gender expression goes. He wouldn't break his code and overall this could be an interesting fight. As one of Luffy's top fighters, sanji cannot have a weakness to women, so to speak. If he does, what will he do if big mom ever comes for Luffy? Perhaps his training as an okama could provide him a way to fight women while maintaining his code.

But that is besides the point. Overall, unless we are assuming that Oda is writing in subplots, in a manga that is already nearly 1000 chapters , that go nowhere, Sanji will likely fight black maria.

Hence, I think this raises question about Maria's rank amongst the tobi roppo. While Who's Who and Sasaki seem to be portrayed as the strongest, in reality they are just the ones that want the position of all star. I think its entirely possible for Maria to be above WW and Sasaki but not be their rivals simply because she doesn't want to be an all star.

Given that Sanji will likely fight her, I think this is a big possibility. But even more than just that, I think there is one other major thing that sets Maria apart from all of the other tobi roppo. That being her race. Black Maria has been shown to be as big as Kaido and has red horns just like yamato.

Due to this, I think it is very likely that Black Maria is from the same race as Kaido. Now I'm not going to jump the gun on this translation, because I'm very skeptical about it and think its very possible that it was butchered, but in the chapter, yamato's wording when she talks about dragons makes it sound less like she's talking about a devil fruit power and more like she's talking about the powers of natural dragons.

Could Kaido be a dragon? And if you think so, then what are the chances that black maria is one as well? I'm really not a fan of this theory but the translation makes it seem possible, so I will put that out there.

Maria being a dragon would actually serve to be a good fight for Sanji. She would be able to fly and use flame abilities, just like he can.

Anyways, to sum it up, I think Sanji vs Maria will happen. And that Maria will be the strongest tobi roppo, the YC4 of the beast piratess.
No.

Why would Oda just waist time with Apoo when we just saw that Zoro can get rid of him instantly? Because he's not that great of a writer so he ends up stalling/dragging the plot for nonsense.

Sanji-BM is the same thing.
 
#18
No.

Why would Oda just waist time with Apoo when we just saw that Zoro can get rid of him instantly? Because he's not that great of a writer so he ends up stalling/dragging the plot for nonsense.

Sanji-BM is the same thing.
Oda is a great writer, but has become liable to pad filler and cut away important content nowadays, that is the editor's fault.
The highest highs are still there, but aiming for chapter benchmarks and timing crescendos around chapter breaks is not the best idea.
 
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