Powers & Abilities Could Luffy take Zoro Jinbei and Sanji to Hachinosu to save Garp while the others went to Elbaf with the giants. Let’s say BB hasn’t returned yet.

[DonWick]

Can they save Garp? Same conditions as Garp and Koby fought in?

 

[Hako Sama]

Nah, they can't, Zoro would make Shiryu look like a bum, he's still at the nami level, we have to wait for him and the rest of the BB crew to evolve more.

 

[Blax Blah]

Yeah =]

 

[L57]

Easily
Luffy would have an easier time vs Kuzan
Zoro vs shiryu
Jinbei vs pizzaro
Sanji vs the nose guy
Sanjuan wolf dies to a 1080 phoenix from zoro

 

[Robin swan]

Luffy can handle kuzan, zoro would be on crowd control, sanji would serve as scout and then handle shyriuu, and jinbe would be on garp guard duty till they escape.

 

[DonWick]

Do the just CoC the fodder? Imagine a Luffy + Zoro CoC combo

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Kuzan would lose to Luffy either way (duh) but since he's still hurt from his fight with Garp here it's even worse
That leaves the Commanders who Luffy could run his own gauntlet on like Garp did but better since he's not old and he has FS to see Shiryu coming

 

[MonsterKaido]

Luffy beats Kuzan

Zoro beats shiryu by feats

Sanji beats wolf and other BBPs.

The only issue is pizarro maybe. Not sure whether jimbei can beat him.

 

[Water1415]

Can they save Garp? Same conditions as Garp and Koby fought in?

Yeah that should happen.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Kuzan instantly folds Zoro/Jinbei/Sanji the moment they step foot on the island. After that he jumps Luffy with the other commanders.
They won't even come close to cell where Garp is held.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Kuzan instantly folds Zoro/Jinbei/Sanji the moment they step foot on the island. After that he jumps Luffy with the other commanders.
They won't even come close to cell where Garp is held.

So basically Kuzan can produce a stronger attack than Hakai casually ?

 

[grey matter]

Definitely.

Remember that the aim is to just escape while buying time.

Luffy can hold Aokiji and bunch of BBP similar to Garp, but this time with Jinbe's help.

Pizarro will be Pica 2.0 to Zoro, easily dealt with. After which he deals with Shiryuu (by feats Shiryuu gets rolled but let's just give benefit of doubt and say they hold off reach other).

Sanji uses this time to go super speed and take Coby to Sunny.
Then they retreat.

The whole operation ends in like 5-10 mins

 

[NexusLord]

Luffy might just say he can't see Garp because he's hunting him down.

He's really kind of a simple guy.

 

[HellBlazer04]

So basically Kuzan can produce a stronger attack than Hakai casually ?

Kuzan freezes Zoro to absolute zero the same thing he did to Jozu.
The attack doesn't need to be stronger than Hakai. It has a different effect from Hakai, and is harder to counter since it directly restricts movement

 

[Wanderer]

Yeah, Luffy > Ao, Zoro > Shiryu, Sanji > Pizzaru, Jinbei > rest, COC > fodders.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Goofy with his fooling around attitude won't end well against lethal opportunist like Shiryu.

Without power up / plot, Zoro has no way dealing against nothingness, Shiryu bodies him too.

The rest like Aokiji etc can take care of Jinbe and Sanji.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

As long as Luffy is able to contain Kuzan, this is under wraps for SHs.

Pizzaro might be a difficulty though

 

[CbShadow]

Kuzan freezes Zoro to absolute zero the same thing he did to Jozu.
The attack doesn't need to be stronger than Hakai. It has a different effect from Hakai, and is harder to counter since it directly restricts movement

Zoro would just protect himself and break free with his haki. No even King sneak self detonation attack was fast enough to damage Zoro who put up a haki barrier defense before it hit him.

 

[Robin swan]

So basically Kuzan can produce a stronger attack than Hakai casually ?

Thinks he's talking about flash freezing. Zoro should be able to break out of it with haki, sanji has heat so should just melt it, and only really jinbe would be in trouble. Thing is all of them know kuzan power and luffy would fight so he would have time to think about attacking the rest. Even if he did 3 of the 4 can get out of his ice and he'd leave himself open to luffy or zoro.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Zoro would just protect himself and break free with his haki. No even King sneak self detonation attack was fast enough to damage Zoro who put up a haki barrier defense before it hit him.

The moment kuzan touches Zoro, it's over for him similar to Jozu.
He isn't getting out of absolute zero temperature with Haki. No haki is helping him get our of that.