Powers & Abilities Could Sanji's raid suit stealth ability be predicted by Coo ?

[Lightbolt]

Cause I saw him use stealth against Hawkins‚ Drake and Page One. And None of them could predict him or sense him.

I am not talking about future sight. Just normal observation haki. Shouldn't it be able to detect him ? Yet none of those characters could. Why ?

Also is he really invisible as in untouchable while invisible or he is still physically there and can be hit‚ but he is just invisible to the eye ?

 

[Screws Loose242]

Truthfully I'm not sure now I'll wait until I c abit more
But he was able to get pass to yc so it might be all to avoid it

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

COA definitely no.


COO most likely yes.

 

[Lightbolt]

COA definitely no.


COO most likely yes.

I meant Coo. My bad. But then why can't Page one nor Hawkins nor Drake sense him. Pretty sure all of them have coo and that is the first thing they will use against an invisible opponent

 

[Screws Loose242]

COA definitely no.


COO most likely yes.

But maybe invisible is something that can even erase your very presence,? even from coo , otherwise why would shiryu get absalom DF, just asking

 

[Lightbolt]

But maybe invisible is something that can even erase your very presence,? even from coo , otherwise why would shiryu get absalom DF, just asking

That is exactly my thought. What is the point of Oda giving the invisible fruit to Blackbeard and invisibility to Sanji ‚ if they can be easily sensed by Coo. That would be a useless powerup

 

[Screws Loose242]

That is exactly my thought. What is the point of Oda giving the invisible fruit to Blackbeard and invisibility to Sanji ‚ if they can be easily sensed by Coo. That would be a useless powerup

Yh and if I remember GM said alot of ppl wanted absalom DF, and maybe rayleigh was referring to ppl that are hiding not invisible?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Only high level CoO since calamities, supernova, and Tobi Roppo couldn’t sense him

 

[Lightbolt]

Yh and if I remember GM said alot of ppl wanted absalom DF,

Maybe only future sight could predict it and normal coo can't feel it cause it erases their presence ?
I am sure future sight can handle it but only Luffy and Katakuri have it right now. I am wondering about normal coo

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Only high level CoO since calamities, supernova, and Tobi Roppo couldn’t sense him

Future sight basically

 

[MonsterKaido]

Should be...sanji's invisibility is visual one after all.............oda is very inconsistent with haki......even fodder characters have haki and the calamities have not shown any............

 

[Lightbolt]

Should be...sanji's invisibility is visual one after all.............oda is very inconsistent with haki......even fodder characters have haki and the calamities have not shown any............

What I can't get ... If it is just visual then why can't coo get it ? But again ... Why would Oda give such a useless powerup and hype it if it is just visual and can be sensed by Coo ?

 

[HA001]

What I can't get ... If it is just visual then why can't coo get it ? But again ... Why would Oda give such a useless powerup and hype it if it is just visual and can be sensed by Coo ?

Sanji himself said its a visual thing.

 

[Lightbolt]

Sanji himself said its a visual thing.

I am not denying that. I am asking if it just visual. Why can no calamities‚ supernova or toppi robo sense it with coo

 

[MonsterKaido]

What I can't get ... If it is just visual then why can't coo get it ? But again ... Why would Oda give such a useless powerup and hype it if it is just visual and can be sensed by Coo ?

Coo should be getting it..........its just that oda is very inconsistent with haki.........for eg - luffy forgets how to use adv coo sometimes

 

[Sir Yasheen]

What I can't get ... If it is just visual then why can't coo get it ? But again ... Why would Oda give such a useless powerup and hype it if it is just visual and can be sensed by Coo ?

CoO requires concentration it’s not like dragon ball energy sensing unless you’re very acute. Even then individuals can hide and completely eliminate their presence from CoO as well.

It’s hard to concentrate on a target you don’t know is there

 

[Lightbolt]

CoO requires concentration it’s not like dragon ball energy sensing unless you’re very acute. Even then individuals can hide and completely eliminate their presence from CoO as well.

It’s hard to concentrate on a target you don’t know is there

The answer that makes most sense to me

 

[HA001]

I am not denying that. I am asking if it just visual. Why can no calamities‚ supernova or toppi robo sense it with coo

You sense intent. He didn't attack them except for page one who is hardly the flag bearer for coo

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

But then why can't Page one

Page One didn't know that he was facing an invisible man. He was wondering where Sanji went which could point to him not using COO.

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When Sanji tried to attack him again P1 sensed something.

Only after that did he figure he was up against an invisible man, and was even wondering if that's the case

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After that P1 sent him flying and thought he killed him, so he wasn't using his COO to check and wanted to go fetch the body, which Sanji took advantage of and landed another attack.

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Hawkins nor Drake sense him.

No idea what this is about. In the manga the only thing was this

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And they also appear to not have been using COO, as ostensibly Hawkins was wondering if someone was hiding behind Shinobu

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But maybe invisible is something that can even erase your very presence,? even from coo , otherwise why would shiryu get absalom DF, just asking

Depends on what the fruit fully does. Sanji's RS projects the background against his body so he can hide in plain sight.

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[Lightbolt]

You sense intent. He didn't attack them except for page one who is hardly the flag bearer for coo

So basically with no intent‚ Sanji is undetectable to them ?

But again Enel could sense the whole of Skypiea...even peaceful people's presence

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Page One didn't know that he was facing an invisible man. He was wondering where Sanji went which could point to him not using COO.

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When Sanji tried to attack him again P1 sensed something.

Only after that did he figure he was up against an invisible man, and was even wondering if that's the case

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After that P1 sent him flying and thought he killed him, so he wasn't using his COO to check and wanted to go fetch the body, which Sanji took advantage of and landed another attack.

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No idea what this is about. In the manga the only thing was this

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And they also appear to not have been using COO, as ostensibly Hawkins was wondering if someone was hiding behind Shinobu

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Depends on what the fruit fully does. Sanji's RS projects the background against his body so he can hide in plain sight.

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Point is Hawkins is no amateur. If he thought someone is hiding behind Shinobu‚ he could use coo in an instant. It is not that hard to activate for veterans like them. Enel could sense the whole of skypiea

 

[HA001]

So basically with no intent‚ Sanji is undetectable to them ?

But again Enel could sense the whole of Skypiea...even peaceful people's presence

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Point is Hawkins is no amateur. If he thought someone is hiding behind Shinobu‚ he could use coo in an instant. It is not that hard to activate for veterans like them

Enel used his fruit to do that.
Basic coo is used for intent
Not everyone has coo like fuji or that girl on Skypia.