Powers & Abilities Could Sanji's raid suit stealth ability be predicted by Coo ?

[Lightbolt]

Enel used his fruit to do that.
Basic coo is used for intent
Not everyone has coo like fuji or that girl on Skypia.

Wait a sec...Enel had a very advanced coo ( not future sight ) but it could sense the whole of skypiea. That has nothing to do with his lightning fruit.

 

[HA001]

Wait a sec...Enel had a very advanced coo ( not future sight ) but it could sense the whole of skypiea. That has nothing to do with his lightning fruit.

Enel boosted his coo with his fruit.

 

[Lightbolt]

Enel boosted his coo with his fruit.

Is there any panel that proves his fruit helped at all with his coo (mantra) ?

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Point is Hawkins is no amateur. If he thought someone is hiding behind Shinobu‚ he could use coo in an instant. It is not that hard to activate for veterans like them. Enel could sense the whole of skypiea

Hawkins yelled out show yourself after that.

Spoiler

Even if he did use COO it's not just a magical thing that grants you the presence of everyone. He would focus on what he thought. For example Katakuri the COO master, FS user, couldn't tell that 10 meters away from him are his sister and her followers and that they were interfering in his battle.

 

[spawn]

Not all CoO is created equal.
A good scene to illustrate this would be something like Koby sensing the torpedo in Ch. 903, but Helmeppo not sensing a thing despite also being a CoO user.
I think Koby is one of the few characters to sense objects with his CoO and not just living things (feel free to correct).

 

[Lightbolt]

Hawkins yelled out show yourself after that.

Spoiler

Even if he did use COO it's not just a magical thing that grants you the presence of everyone. He would focus on what he thought. For example Katakuri the COO master, FS user, couldn't tell that 10 meters away from him are his sister and her followers and that they were interfering in his battle.

So basically we can agree coo is not full proof defense against invisibility‚ unless it is future sight

 

[spawn]

Is there any panel that proves his fruit helped at all with his coo (mantra) ?

Yes. Chapter 278.

 

[Lightbolt]

Yes. Chapter 278.

I am not sure how that works but if Enel himself says so. Never noticed this lol

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

So basically we can agree coo is not full proof defense against invisibility‚ unless it is future sight

Not really I guess. The basic premise of COO is to sense what you cannot see. When Rayleigh was teaching Luffy he was smacking him in the head whilst Luffy was blindfolded so that he couldn't see. It probably requires more focus or something like that. I guess we'll find out soonish and see what direction Oda decides to take it.

 

[Kenshiro11]

No. Judge basically stole meleoron and stitched him somewhere in that suit. so basically 3ji is just using gods accomplice

 

[Lightbolt]

Not really I guess. The basic premise of COO is to sense what you cannot see. When Rayleigh was teaching Luffy he was smacking him in the head whilst Luffy was blindfolded so that he couldn't see. It probably requires more focus or something like that. I guess we'll find out soonish and see what direction Oda decides to take it.

I know. Then what is the point of Oda powering Sanji up with a useless ability that could be sensed easily by Coo....unless it couldn't be.

 

[Ace]

I think most new world fights have been a combination of CoO + reaction speed.

So the advantage that RS Sanji has is that his opponents will have to solely rely on CoO when he’s invisible.

I don’t think Oda will make Sanji’s power up invincible or easily countered.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

I know. Then what is the point of Oda powering Sanji up with a useless ability that could be sensed easily by Coo....unless it couldn't be.

As I said we'll find out soonish. But it's not a useless ability. If it requires focus it probably requires more COO expenditure. Also that's just one part of his pu. That was probably designed for stealth missions or quick sneak attacks, the things Sanji is known for.

His raidsuit vastly increases his durability, allows him to hit harder and move faster. 'Vanishing' is just one aspect.

 

[spawn]

I am not sure how that works but if Enel himself says so. Never noticed this lol

I think his CoO alone wouldn't allow him to hear conversations. But the fact that he's combining his CoO alongside his Devil Fruit allows him to listen to conversations using the "electrical signals".

 

[Screws Loose242]

I think most new world fights have been a combination of CoO + reaction speed.

So the advantage that RS Sanji has is that his opponents will have to solely rely on CoO when he’s invisible.

I don’t think Oda will make Sanji’s power up invincible or easily countered.

Yh and why shiryu took absalom DF if it useless make no sense

 

[Lightbolt]

As I said we'll find out soonish. But it's not a useless ability. If it requires focus it probably requires more COO expenditure. Also that's just one part of his pu. That was probably designed for stealth missions or quick sneak attacks, the things Sanji is known for.

His raidsuit vastly increases his durability, allows him to hit harder and move faster. 'Vanishing' is just one aspect.

The raid suit may as well make him the second fastest in the crew to Luffy.

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I think his CoO alone wouldn't allow him to hear conversations. But the fact that he's combining his CoO alongside his Devil Fruit allows him to listen to conversations using the "electrical signals".

I never noticed that. That is really some overpowered fruit...if not the most overpowered

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[spawn]

I never noticed that. That is really some overpowered fruit...if not the most overpowered

Yeah, people forget how strong it is because of how long ago Skypiea was.

 

[zzShinichi]

Yes but it's slightly harder compared to an visible enemy.
Like Absalom was somehow caught and killed despite having an invisible fruit, so invisibility is not as all Allmighty.

 

[Finalbeta]

It's unknown.

We should wait on Oda's decision because the rate of unpredictability when it comes to these matters is pretty robust.

My personal speculation is yes eventually.

 

[Kuroemon]

Yes i think so..
Sanji raid suit (and maybe Shiryu DF too) works if your enemies didnt expect to fight an invisible man, but if your enemies know they fight an invisible man, they will actively use their CoO