General & Others Cross Guild will not do anything, that’s the point

[gz89]

I really don’t care that much man
If it makes you feel better I guess. I do think there will be another Davy back fight

Its not about if it makes me feel better or not.
Also i didnt say there wont be another davy back fight ever again, i said there wont be one between the two crews.

The most anticipated battle of OP wont be part of a game, its beyond ridiculous to seriously think that.
So if you are so sure about this and you agree lets makes the bet.

 

[Welkin]

CG is underwhelming AF due to Mihawk 😂

CG is a Yonko crew because of Mihawk (and Croc)

 

[Albino 👑]

Weren’t the Foxy Pirates cheating? I don’t see Mihawk and Croc cheating

Eh mihawk shouldn’t cheat in a serious sword duel with zoro but the rest I don’t see why not

They’re pirates so them fighting dirty and being a lil cheap makes sense. On top of that they could pick games specifically suited for them giving them the best possible chance to win each

Its not about if it makes me feel better or not.
Also i didnt say there wont be another davy back fight ever again, i said there wont be one between the two crews.

The most anticipated battle of OP wont be part of a game, its beyond ridiculous to seriously think that.
So if you are so sure about this and you agree lets makes the bet.

Sure I don’t care
We’ll find out in 6 years

 

[HellBlazer04]

Finally someone who actually understands the story.
Always said it, CG is just a cool concept that oda has no plans to properly utilise. It's just a way for Buggy to be involved in final saga
People expecting mihawk and croc to suddenly start fighting against all the other top tiers is beyond delusional

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Mihawk will get dragged around by this gag plot until he fights Zoro so that’s all you can look forward to.

crocodile I have no idea

Poor Lorotards😢

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Sure, Buggy fails upwards, but how does that happen? Someone has to do the deed for him to claim the credit, which is where Mihawk and Crocodile come in. Buggy's been getting credit for the things that Mihawk and Crocodile do and he will continue to do so until he becomes a primary contender for the PK title, which will happen via Mihawk's strength and Crocodile's intelligence.

 

[JoNdule]

They are all frauds
Mihawk vs zoro won't happen
Buggy might reach Roadster island by himself in pure luck

 

[odaisalwaysright]

They are all frauds
Mihawk vs zoro won't happen
Buggy might reach Roadster island by himself in pure luck

finally someone who gets it
they said admirals are yonko level ==== proven wrong again and again
they said zoro kill kaido === wrong
they said mihawk is at shanks level and means somthing to zoro progression === wrong
they said garp galaxy impact was coc and one of stronges atatck === wrong fraud still up after it and garp is top commander level
they said marines are final villains and means somthing in power===== wrong they are getting replaced by wg gorosei and holy knights

when will they learn ??

 

[Dragon777]

finally someone who gets it
they said admirals are yonko level ==== proven wrong again ...
they said garp galaxy impact was coc and one of stronges atatck === wrong fraud still up after it and garp is top commander level

They already sent weaker forces, remember… there was a vice admiral and a bunch of battleships around the island before Crocodile arrived.

And they will again, even if they'll do better.

The marines sent these guys when they believed buggy was just a “mere warlord”… now they believe Buggy IS STRONGER THAN MIHAWK… Or at least comparable enough for Mihawk to let Buggy be his leader… The marines believe there’s essentially two Yonko level people on that island

Yeah, and who they sent against Mihawk in the first place? You get It.

So if Sengoku Plus ONE other admiral arrive with 30 battle ships to fight TWO Yonko, yes, Cross guild would lose… so this ain’t happening

Probably one of the two.

Also Oda has shown with Kizaru that he’s not going to waste admirals on anyone, not even Luffy… The admirals will be defeated when the plot wants them to be… And even Luffy failed to defeat Kizaru in egghead just because of plot

I am not saying that they'll defeat an Admiral: I am saying that they'll fight and the escape.

Maybe take down Sengoku.

Also don’t use other series to talk about OP… we know Oda’s writing philosophy is unique to him… why do you think we One piece fans regularly talk about “plot” so much when this isn’t a thing in other stories

Sure, but precisely becuase of that I think Buggy will be, as always, credited with things he didn't do or only half did.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Sure, Buggy fails upwards, but how does that happen? Someone has to do the deed for him to claim the credit, which is where Mihawk and Crocodile come in. Buggy's been getting credit for the things that Mihawk and Crocodile do and he will continue to do so until he becomes a primary contender for the PK title, which will happen via Mihawk's strength and Crocodile's intelligence.

Buggy is a Yonko because they think he’s stronger than Mihawk. That’s something that happened without Mihawk and Crocodile doing anything

mihawk and crocodile outright already said they will not be fighting for Buggy and Buggy agreed and said they won’t fight anyone and they will just cheat their way to laugh tale without having to fight the Yonko

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Buggy is a Yonko because they think he’s stronger than Mihawk.

No one said that. There's a reason why Mihawk's given a higher bounty than the supposed leader of the group. A subordinate pirate getting a higher bounty than the leader never happened in the history of OP, yet Oda went out of his way to do it—and he did that after specifically terming Buggy a long time rival of Yonko Shanks.

The government thought they're his followers. And we have Law confirming that they deserve to be called a Yonko crew if Mihawk and Crocodile are working together even if Buggy's a fodder, so their status remains the same regardless of Buggy's involvement.

That’s something that happened without Mihawk and Crocodile doing anything

They planned and created Cross Guild, and Buggy's given the credit for it, and it resulted in him become a Yonko.

mihawk and crocodile outright already said they will not be fighting for Buggy and Buggy agreed and said they won’t fight anyone and they will just cheat their way to laugh tale without having to fight the Yonko

They don't have to do anything specifically for Buggy. They'll be somehow dragged into the mess and whatever they do to clear that mess will end up being credited to Buggy.

 

[JoNdule]

No one said that. There's a reason why Mihawk's given a higher bounty than the supposed leader of the group. A subordinate pirate getting a higher bounty than the leader never happened in the history of OP, yet Oda went out of his way to do it—and he did that after specifically terming Buggy a long time rival of Yonko Shanks.

The government thought they're his followers. And we have Law confirming that they deserve to be called a Yonko crew if Mihawk and Crocodile are working together even if Buggy's a fodder, so their status remains the same regardless of Buggy's involvement.



They planned and created Cross Guild, and Buggy's given the credit for it, and it resulted in him become a Yonko.




They don't have to do anything specifically for Buggy. They'll be somehow dragged into the mess and whatever they do to clear that mess will end up being credited to Buggy.

Did you miss the part they said Buggy has the power to command mihawk and Croco?

They wouldn't name him Yonko if they believed he wasn't Yonko level above Mihawk

They showed Mihawk bounty before Buggy’s nounty
Mihawk having higher bounty means nothing,
The OP verse believe Buggy is stronger than Mihawk

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

They don't have to do anything specifically for Buggy. They'll be somehow dragged into the mess and whatever they do to clear that mess will end up being credited to Buggy.

There is no “mess” that can have them compete with the Yonko believably.

even the “chillest” Yonko, Shanks has an entire armada, goes around fighting admirals and Law and chasing teach around the new world. Shanks has connects with the Celestial dragons and Roger’s secret dream and knows about the Nika prophecy and has Elbaf, the strongest country, as his allies.

do you see the amount of shit that’s needed for someone to believably reach laugh take through actual effort?

Cross guild was formed like one month ago, and they are reaching laugh tale in like 1 month from now… so they technically only needed TWO FUCKING MONTHS to do the thing ENTIRE YONKO EMPIRE have failed to do for in DECADES… Even Luffy who is playing on Speed mode getting lucky and getting powers up left right and center at least needed the pre time skip, then the time skip, then all of post time skip to finally reach Laugh tale

cross guild started going after one piece 1 month ago and you think they’ll do something on the level of Luffy and Shanks and Teach to reach laugh tale in TWO FUCKING MONTHS?

Do you seriously not see how this break the logic of the story? 1 Yonko level guy, one maybe YC1+ guy and a bunch of fodder can reach Laugh tale in two months just like that? This makes sense to you?

 

[Dragon777]

Do you seriously not see how this break the logic of the story? 1 Yonko level guy, one maybe YC1+ guy and a bunch of fodder can reach Laugh tale in two months just like that? This makes sense to you?

They are going to discover things, to do thing THROUGH LUCK, through simple coincidence, through Buggy. That's It.

There is no logic behind.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Then there's people here who actually believe the CG will be a legitimate final villains...

 

[Roo]

Whats the point of making them a big deal then? even if you think it's just for Zoro to fight Mihawk for the one piece, CG needs to be built as an actual threat for it to matter.

I like the idea that captain john's treasure has 3 RP rubbings, because not only it fits buggy's incredible luck, but it also adds to luffy giving up everything to save ace. Even if he didn't know at the time.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

They are going to discover things, to do thing THROUGH LUCK, through simple coincidence, through Buggy. That's It.

There is no logic behind.

You mean dumb gag logic luck right?

that’s the point of the thread…. cross guild cannot operate in the logic of the rest of the story or else it stops making sense…. So they will operate in buggy’s gag logic where they don’t do a single thing to earn their positions and just get stupidly lucky until they reach laugh tale

 

[Dragon777]

You mean dumb gag logic luck right?

that’s the point of the thread…. cross guild cannot operate in the logic of the rest of the story or else it stops making sense…. So they will operate in buggy’s gag logic where they don’t do a single thing to earn their positions and just get stupidly lucky until they reach laugh tale

Yes, and no.

They will get stupidly lucky because DOING SOMETHING they'll be stupidly lucky and get 100 out of 1.

They won't stay still and do nothing: they'll do but simply they'll be incredibly, unbelivably luckily and obtain much more than they should.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

You mean dumb gag logic luck right?

that’s the point of the thread…. cross guild cannot operate in the logic of the rest of the story or else it stops making sense…. So they will operate in buggy’s gag logic where they don’t do a single thing to earn their positions and just get stupidly lucky until they reach laugh tale

So you think CG reaches raftel?

I don't think so tbh.

Zoro will be the wss before goofy is pk.

And raftel imo is the BBP fight.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

CG needs to be built as an actual threat for it to matter.

No, because they aren’t actually a threat… If two admirals and a 30 battleships arrive on the cg island RIGHT NOW they will get obliterated… Because they aren’t actually a Yonko crew… they are a sham that the government is propping up out of ignorance and buggy gag logic… The government legitimately thinks Buggy's a goddamn top tier

There is no other Yonko crew that can be defeated by such weak forces… Hence why cg is not actually a threat

They are a gag organization that exists to ship unworthy characters to the final island