Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade UPDATE: Remembering The Fallen

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

King says he doesn´t care about traditional forms in battle, and Zoro points out how he never claimed to be a swordsman. Honestly this is just bad writing on Odas part

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Does he? I can only think of Absalom, and maybe Queen?

Sanji didn't fight any opponent to a win since Absalom let that sink in.

 

[Dragon777]

Headcanons, only Zoro's related character have it.
Prove Fraud Bull is Zoro's opponent i just proved he's a Sanji opponent.

No, you just said it lol.

Kaku was goofy when he was mastering his Devil Fruit, now show me Kaku being goofy in Egg Head lmao and what's funny he isn't a womanizer and a clown like Queen.

You want the same gags again? Thanks Oda that at least didn't go for that.

And Before that if he's related to Zoro

As I said it, if he has it he is Zoro's fight.

 

[CbShadow]

Zoro is fighting the black blade wielder, simple as that.

Do as you like with this lol.





Oda is quite straightforward: he is not giving something that looks exactly like a BB to a top tier inspired after a swordsman just for the lol of it, just to reveal that is wasn't a BB.
He had no need to do so.

As we said, Gannai Aramaki's trope was exactly being a genius swordsman despite doesn't looking like one.

Oda is straightforward with swordsman and black blade. When character has a black blades he's quick to have them show off their black blade and inform the readers they have a black blade. He didn't do that with GB.

Oda won't have the admiral who's a swordsman, trained in swordsmanship since a child and has a connection to Wano possess a normal sword. Then give the character who's not a swordsman, used a wooden club, and hate Wano samurais a black blade.

 

[Dragon777]

Oda is straightforward with swordsman and black blade. When character has a black blades he's quick to have them show off their black blade and inform the readers they have a black blade. He didn't do that with GB.

Oda won't have the admiral who's a swordsman, trained in swordsmanship since a child and has a connection to Wano possess a normal sword. Then give the character who's not a swordsman, used a wooden club, and hate Wano samurais a black blade.

The key point, as you know we have said, it's Aramaki's inspiration: Aramaki is inspired after Gennai Aramaki, he (alone) took both name and actor, a genius swordsman who didn't showed he was a genius swordsman until the end of Roningai.
It's just roningai trope all over again.

Overall, we just have to wait and see.

 

[CbShadow]

The key point, as you know we have said, it's Aramaki's inspiration: Aramaki is inspired after Gennai Aramaki, he (alone) took both name and actor, a genius swordsman who didn't showed he was a genius swordsman until the end of Roningai.
It's just roningai trope all over again.

Overall, we just have to wait and see.

Oda based a lot of his characters offvof real life people but that doesn't mean they are carbon copies.

By giving him a wooden sword not only would that allow him off sword skill but combined his weapon with wood df power to use it in ways he can't with just a fixed blade. It works out perfectly.

 

[trav]

in a canonical medium

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I see you guys are still seething

 

[[No Name]]

So a kokuto isn't one because it isn't stated to be a kokuto, but for some reason they believe in magic stuff like mihawk having better haki than shanks or even having coc when he didn't show or it has been told he has it.
The Fandom with the most absurd assumptions cry in front of undeniable evidences and try to say it's not valid until Oda spoon foods them with it.

 

[kumae]

Even theater knows is a seath 🤣

 

[Dragon777]

Even theater knows is a seath 🤣

This Is next level really, official databooks and colored manga (and official manga too) aren't canon, but let's use cosplay lol.

 

[HA001]

So a kokuto isn't one because it isn't stated to be a kokuto, but for some reason they believe in magic stuff like mihawk having better haki than shanks or even having coc when he didn't show or it has been told he has it.
The Fandom with the most absurd assumptions cry in front of undeniable evidences and try to say it's not valid until Oda spoon foods them with it.

This coming from the fan base that argued raisin had a black blade

 

[Afroking]

Is this a sword?

Nope, it's a short blade.

Yes it is a sword.

What you are doing btw is no different than Shanks fans that use headcannon to say he isn't a swordsman and has another fighting style..



It is one thing to present something as a fact & another to share an opinion about how it possibly isn't.

There is no denying it has been presented to us as a black blade.
It even has the zigzag white hamon that is visible on Kokutos..

Oda as of now has never drawn a sword black if it isn't a black blade or people using haki on it.

With wooden seaths we know Oda is drawing white(be it Nusjuro,Kaku,Fujtora) there is no reason to assume he wouldn't do the same with the wooden swords.

 

[trav]

magic stuff like mihawk having better haki than shanks

Mihawk > Shanks is canon.
Possible without better haki. Thematically unlikely though. Moreso regarding CoC.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Mihawk > Shanks is canon.
Possible without better haki. Thematically unlikely though. Moreso regarding CoC.

Canon like Greenbull's black sword?

 

[trav]

Canon like Greenbull's black sword?

Greenbulls sword has not yet been colord in canon material.
Are you dumb?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Greenbulls sword has not yet been colord in canon material.
Are you dumb?

So mihawk is stronger than Shanks, and Greenbull is drawn multiple times with a black sword INCLUDING the canon colore manga but it is just an illusion?
Lol

 

[trav]

the canon colore manga

The digitally colored manga is not canon material and has been wrong many times in the past. They use their own color scheme until Oda draws it himself in a colorspread or cover.
Mihawk was > Shanks even before the colored manga drew his eyes correctly.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

The digitally colored manga is not canon material and has been wrong many times in the past. They use their own color scheme until Oda draws it himself in a colorspread or cover.
Mihawk was > Shanks even before the colored manga drew his eyes correctly.

Of course, the fact that the blade is black is just an error!
Coping

 

[trav]

is just an error

Its not really an error. They have nothing to base it on, but need to go with a color. Think of it more like a placeholder until Oda canonized the actual color.
The color of Mihawks eyes was retroactively changed when Oda canonized them to be red over 20 years later.

I am really starting to wonder why you all feel so strongly about this? Why do you insist?
Nothing good can come of it.
Every possible scenario ends up with an L for Admirals.
If Greenbull actually has a legit black blade, making him a swordsmen, then he is automatically under Mihawk and inevitably under Zoro too. An L.
If Greenbull stole the blade, then he is a fraud. An L.
If Greenbulls blade is not a black blade you will look like utter tools. A fucking huge L. <--- this here is what will happen

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Its not really an error. They have nothing to base it on, but need to go with a color. Think of it more like a placeholder until Oda canonized the actual color.
The color of Mihawks eyes was retroactively changed when Oda canonized them to be red over 20 years later.

I am really starting to wonder why you all feel so strongly about this? Why do you insist?
Nothing good can come of it.
Every possible scenario ends up with an L for Admirals.
If Greenbull actually has a legit black blade, making him a swordsmen, then he is automatically under Mihawk and inevitably under Zoro too. An L.
If Greenbull stole the blade, then he is a fraud. An L.
If Greenbulls blade is not a black blade you will look like utter tools. A fucking huge L. <--- this here is what will happen

If it's such a loff for admiral-stans, why fight it? Why not just give it to them?
And you know what the answer is, you just won't write it down.