Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade UPDATE: Remembering The Fallen

[Dragon777]

Zoro fans are in a tricky spot. If Greenbull didn't forge it, some other no name did. it's easier to give it to Greenbull since his peer is a supreme grade blade user with the best CoO while Kuzan trades punches with Garp, so it's within range.

People just have to accept that a black blade doesn't require ACoC above Shanks and Roger, but that it's more of a CoA feat, given CoA essentially mimics a black blade (black color + hardened blade).

This.
People would be happier if a new random swordsman did it instead of one of the Admirals of the strongest Marine ever?

It has no sense for me.

And as said, I agree with the CoA thing. It probably/likely involves CoC and/or CoO too, but it's clear to everyone the main force behind it is CoA.

Wano's biggest asset was his CoA expertise, Ryuma was from Wano and anyway, other than black being clearly a sign of aramament, I strongly suspect this is a move from Oda to give Zoro a field in which he can be even better than Luffy:

 

[Shiroyru]

Maybe not EOS Zoro, but yes, the other two.

I’m not talking power level wise, I meant character wise.

 

[ZenZu]

Admirals are built different, an Admiral can side quest your favorite’s life’s work

It is true. Kizaru more durable than Kaidou, Kuzan raw punching on Garp's lvl.

What is Akainu gonna have? Future sight on par with Goatakuri?

 

[HA001]

Zoro fans are in a tricky spot. If Greenbull didn't forge it, some other no name did. it's easier to give it to Greenbull since his peer is a supreme grade blade user with the best CoO while Kuzan trades punches with Garp, so it's within range.

People just have to accept that a black blade doesn't require ACoC above Shanks and Roger, but that it's more of a CoA feat, given CoA essentially mimics a black blade (black color + hardened blade).

This is cope.
Everyone can use coa and theres only 2 in history.

 

[Dragon777]

My only issue with this is only the two most dedicated to the art of swordsmanship characters were given the honour of this. From an outside of the verse perspective it's not just a matter of maxed out CoA, because honestly the number of users should be higher then.

TBH, the focus of the manga has long shifted to CoC. Basically, every major top tier have a lot stronger connection to CoC rather than CoA, starting with Shanks.

The "if it were maxed out haki, more people should have had one" was a lot stronger before Wano/Onigashima.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Honestly it makes no sense why so few people have BB. It does feels like a side power created only for zoro hence ryuma and mihawk who are both connected to zoro have it. The only reason for oda to have GB forge a BB is if he is one of zoro's future opponent which I doubt it.

Even venus doesn't have BB.

 

[soupongo]

I’m not talking power level wise, I meant character wise.

....maybe? He´s hot headed as opposed to Mihawk, and is an alcoholic, but so is Zoro.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

What is Akainu gonna have?

Honestly the only thing Oda can do for Akainu to make him unique among Admirals is to give him the strongest AdCoC in the series. All of the other Haki specialties have already been taken by the other Admirals, so unless Oda decides to make him a clone of one of the others, AdCoC is really the only unique route

 

[Blazing Lion]

You will cry when Kuzan's bounty is revealed above Mihawk's

His bounty should be minimum 4 bil
3 bil for Admiral power level and 1 bil at least for having all the secret knowledge that Admirals have
Its like USA Army Chief joining Russian Army, the threat level should be off the charts

 

[ZenZu]

Honestly the only thing Oda can do for Akainu to make him unique among Admirals is to give him the strongest AdCoC in the series. All of the other Haki specialties have already been taken by the other Admirals, so unless Oda decides to make him a clone of one of the others, AdCoC is really the only unique route

But this isn't really a shocker. Akainu having the strongest AdCoC. Given who he leads, his sheer tenacity, willpower, and given he is a Luffy opponent.

I'm talking about randomly excelling at the highest level in a field that was perceived as a weakness for them. Atleast that's the pattern for the C3 so far.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Tbh I have plenty of bets lined up on this. One user even deleted the account, so.
Sure though, while the majority was about him having a BB (which si much more objetvie), not all of them are about forging it.

Btw, the anime put a sheathe on him, imho. It's pretty clear when you see it closely; probably they didn't know what to do.


Idk, the MC is a literal clown and gets clowned often. BB is another overreacting drama queen. Some characters overreact and Oda likes them to overreact.

Being forced out of your DF transformation is different from overreacting

 

[Juanpiz]

It is true. Kizaru more durable than Kaidou, Kuzan raw punching on Garp's lvl.

What is Akainu gonna have? Future sight on par with Goatakuri?

You mean that Shi that has been barely important since intro

 

[Dragon777]

Honestly the only thing Oda can do for Akainu to make him unique among Admirals is to give him the strongest AdCoC in the series. All of the other Haki specialties have already been taken by the other Admirals, so unless Oda decides to make him a clone of one of the others, AdCoC is really the only unique route

I also expect some crazy choice like Kizaru being strong in defense.

Idk what, but some unforeseeable thing. Like Akainu being crazy fast.

 

[ZenZu]

His bounty should be minimum 4 bil
3 bil for Admiral power level and 1 bil at least for having all the secret knowledge that Admirals have
Its like USA Army Chief joining Russian Army, the threat level should be off the charts

So after you are coming to terms with Greenbull having a black blade despite voting no in the poll above. You have accepted Kuzan will have a higher bounty than Mihawk too

Love it, Admirals built different.

 

[soupongo]

I believe that it would be really cool for Sakazuki to be a FS expert, since it would allow him to see people commit crimes, and kill them beforehand.

 

[HA001]

Its likely fuji is the only one with acoc.

 

[Dragon777]

Being forced out of your DF transformation is different from overreacting

All Gorosei were forced out from their from thanks to an haki compared to Shanks', who was only attacking Ryo.
And still Ryo said what he said.

Anyway, BB twerks for bascially anything.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

But this isn't really a shocker. Akainu having the strongest AdCoC. Given who he leads, his sheer tenacity, willpower, and given he is a Luffy opponent.

I'm talking about randomly excelling at the highest level in a field that was perceived as a weakness for them. Atleast that's the pattern for the C3 so far.

I also expect some crazy choice like Kizaru being strong in defense.

Idk what, but some unforeseeable thing. Like Akainu being crazy fast.

I always found it interesting how Akainu had the greatest muscle mass among pre TS Admirals. There’s no way this dude isn’t a fruitless monster.

Just think, Akainu has like twice Kuzan’s muscle mass, and Kuzan with no fruit is equal to Garp lmfao

 

[SakazOuki]

Good catch did you take your L on this @SakazOuki

I did, can’t say the same for y’all begging for Kizaru vs Zoro for 2 years insulting everyone who calls out your delusions
Then act like nothing happened
You specifically went from best admiral Wizaru to spamming Lizaru nonstop lmfao
Embarrassing stuff

 

[ZenZu]

I always found it interesting how Akainu had the greatest muscle mass among pre TS Admirals. There’s no way this dude isn’t a fruitless monster.

Just think, Akainu has like twice Kuzan’s muscle mass, and Kuzan with no fruit is equal to Garp lmfao

That's why being the FS expert among them would be the random field no one expected him to be the best in.

We all thought in a pure fist fight no df, that there is no shot Kuzan would be superior to Akainu. We all thought Kizaru being the speedster of the Admirals and of the verse, that there is no shot he would also be the most durable character....so Akainu randomly being some evasive demon checks out lol.

But I don't think Oda will do it because Akainu is far too lethal and has far too much environmental control to be a FS expert. He has to have his hit rate be a lot lower than the average fighter.