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[Infitima]

Fuck off Thread Hijackers.

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Lmao ..
Headcanon is headcanon.

If you are talking about that side of twitter.
Most of them don't read or watch manga.
Whatever they know about one piece is from other twitter posts..
It was same case with Yamato debate.
JJK and MHA is ending soon , there will be increase of these type of fans...

You are giving too much attention to them kkk

 

[OneHater]

I think remaking One Piece with Sanji as a lesbian female character would work very well.
Brook and Sanji overlap too much.
Transition Sanji through Ivankov's magic would be really good because Sanji is constantly simping over women so he should learn what it's like to be a women.
Can we petition Oda to transition Sanji into a women?

 

[Peroroncino]

Who was even saying sanji should be a girl?
Why are you so insecure about this

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Who was even saying sanji should be a girl?
Why are you so insecure about this

Consequences of spending too much time on wrong side of twitter.
More you interact with these type of things , more you will see it.
That's how social media works.

 

[SakazOuki]

 

[OneHater]

Sanji:

1. Was harassed, chased, and jumped and spent 2 years fighting to stay a man as part of his challenge.
2. Learned to fly to escape them.
3. Created an attack from the PTSD of that 2 years.
4. Calls it Hell every single time.
5. Refused blood from them in anime filler.
6. Made worse in anime filler where they didn't just jump and force him but literally brainwashed him as he says he was 'losing himself.'

Sanji doesn't want it. Take a hint.

One Piece is a woke story. One Piece is about overthrowing an evil oppressive government and empowering different races. Sanji and the design of female characters don't mesh with the themes of the story (anti capitalism, anti discrimination, anarchy/freedom). But my rationale for transitioning Sanji is that his current character is too pervy and overlaps too much with Brook. A female Sanji would be an improvement and would add a new dynamic to the cast.

 

[OneHater]

canon events

Did you see this video?

Canon is whatever the author wants it to be and authors can make rationalizations for changing stories.
In this case, transitioning Sanji would be a good plot twist.

Also, I'm a girl and I find no issue with how the females are drawn.

sticks with boobs

 

[Seatonnes]

the fact you care so much is crazy

 

[OneHater]

Stan Lee is also dead, and a western author not eastern so different values, I don't care what he says.

But yes, it is what the author wants it. Oda wrote those canon events. Oda reiterates them constantly in Sanji's gag, that he's straight and a man.

But you could also view those cannon events as foreshadowing. Sanji is trying to maintain this manhood but he's being pushed into the path of womanhood and his character arc ends with him embracing femininity and realizing that his pervy actions were no good. Like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tootsie

Also, yeah OP is woke in some aspects. But out of all the couples Oda has written (and keeps writing) please show me the one gay or bi couple, and I don't mean hints, I mean the actual canon couples that he's fleshed out or even paired together. There isn't one. It's not as woke as you think, he's still traditionalist in some aspects. Sanji isn't going to suddenly be the only character to break that.

Oda should overcome his internalized misogyny rite?

 

[Yoho]

Interesting post with solid points tho I never heard or seen sanji has a girl outside of genderbent fan hearts

Tho just because Zeff wouldn't kick Sanji doesn't mean he wouldn't teach her self defense also wouldn't take away Sanji's code of honor and chivalry simply make Sanji a lesbian and can still retain the love for women aspects of his character

Yes maybe his brothers wouldn't be as hard on him but having a younger sister to compete for her father's favor with may turn reiju into the person who bullies Femji Judge didn't lock Sanji away cause he's weak well that's not the only reason but also because he showed care and emotion it's like Femji would still get locked away

Also you can transfer him iva literally has the power to change his gender

Finally yes Sanji may no longer be seen has a role model for some guys and that it's okay to be a bit soft and show emotion but at the same time Femji can inspire girls and show them its okay to show your emotion but still be tough has nails

 

[Peroroncino]

Stan Lee is also dead, and a western author not eastern so different values, I don't care what he says.

But yes, it is what the author wants it. Oda wrote those canon events. Oda reiterates them constantly in Sanji's gag, that he's straight and a man.

Also, yeah OP is woke in some aspects. But out of all the couples Oda has written (and keeps writing) please show me the one gay or bi couple, and I don't mean hints, I mean the actual canon couples that he's fleshed out or even paired together. There isn't one. It's not as woke as you think, he's still traditionalist in some aspects. Sanji isn't going to suddenly be the only character to break that.

Can you not make fun of stan lee for being dead?

 

[OneHater]

No, he shouldn't. There's nothing wrong with being traditionalist.

Well traditionalism or 2 gender norms is the definition of sexism and the goal of feminists is to destroy the oppressive norms and standards that say women can't do the same things that men can do.

We don't need Zoro getting with Luffy and mpreg Zoro suddenly to make the story interesting. Go back to Twitter if you want that. There's a reason the author has stuck with only hetero-couples, and kids made the natural way (even with all the science he's added.) Because once he opens that gate, that's all anyone will ever see the story for.

The problem with this rationale is the same can be said for racism. Racists will say it's natural to have borders and live with your own kind blah blah blah. You're on Twitter so you know the arguments. Obviously Oda is against this because he wants fishfolks to live with folks and Wano to be open so it's weird how he doesn't apply the same anti-discrimination standard to sex as he does to race.

It's already happening which lead to writing this topic. 'Fans' (Fetishists) getting into One Piece because some moron drew a trans Sanji or ZoSatanist art, giving the misconception that it was canon to newbies and spreading those misconceptions further to where half of Twitter will now argue into the ground Sanji is that ignoring the literal canon of the story or WORSE even siding with the Okama who literally harassed and jumped him making them somehow in the right to jump and force something on someone. Totally a great message to send newer fans, that harassment and forcing things is okay, not.

I think these changes would be more interesting than the current plot and would turn One Piece into "better than Berserk."

 

[OneHater]

That's the same thing you're saying by saying Sanji who was Harassed, Chased, Jumped, Forced, and Anime Brainwashed is just in denial or given time will change to want it.

That's sick bro.

Sanji was being bigoted and the Okama were trying to teach him tolerance and inclusion. A good character arc involves a character fighting to defend their worldview and then eventually realizing that they were wrong and changing. Sanji should learn to be more tolerant and inclusive because right now he is a total perv.

 

[Yoho]

Actually it does mean that. Teaching self defense unless he's literally just going to sit and watch (which helps no one) means he has to practice with a female Sanji. It also means he has to approve of a female Sanji fighting. The way canon Sanji has interpreted Zeff's form of chivalry has shown that Zeff is VERY old fashion not just your grandparents old fashion. I was being generous in saying he'd even adopt a female Sanji. He probably wouldn't. Sanji proved himself by attacking Zeff, Zeff wouldn't have kicked him for it, thus he wouldn't have crawled, bit him and professed his dream. Zeff would have just ignored a female child Sanji and his crew toss 'her' out to the rest of the Orbit's crew. Giving nowhere for Sanji to even mention 'her' dream.

In that scenario if they did somehow make it to the rock and survive, he's the type to just become over protective and not let a female Sanji fight. May teach her cooking, but not employ her as he literally stated to canon Sanji he does not employ girls. Changing Sanji to girl would be changing all of Zeff's own values.

And no, changing chivalry doesn't work. Chivalry was a code of honor for men to treat women. There is no reverse form and no womens version for other women because women are already expected to treat other women nicely. There's just no point at that point.



A girl is expected to show care an emotion, even Reiju showed it around her mother, and despite being strict Judge never had it beat out of her. He may be disappointed in a Female Sanji showing care and emotion but it won't escalate to a dungeon and disownment.


That would be forcing a character into something they don't want. This was written in the sense where people make Sanji a girl and try to keep everything in his story. His story made it clear he doesn't want it. Changing him to want it, ditches his personality.


We already get that in Nami. You don't need to take Sanji away from the boys just to give the girls another icon and to please fetishists.



Considering you replied this to my last point. You're basically saying you think changes that validate harassing and forcing people into things would be an interesting change. -- So we're done, I'm no longer replying to you after this post.


Let me put it this way.

If a character was raped (let's say Ginny) would you suddenly say the character is in denial and actually wanted it, or give her time and she'd want it?

No?

That's the same thing you're saying by saying Sanji who was Harassed, Chased, Jumped, Forced, and Anime Brainwashed is just in denial or given time will change to want it.

That's sick bro.

You do realize women can be chivalrous as well? Also chivalry is a code of honor that can be applied to how you treat anyone it's just primarily associated with how many think men should treat women.

Also when did Reiju ever show any care or emotion to anyone besides Sanji she hid it from the rest of the family specifically because she didn't want to get bullied like Sanji

If oda decides to have iva turn Sanji into a girl for a comedic gag not much Sanji can do about it

Also there's at least 100 male characters to every 1 female character making Sanji a female wouldn't be a big lost for men or boys If anything most would accept having another character to simp over

 

[OneHater]

Also there's at least 100 male characters to every 1 female character making Sanji a female wouldn't be a big lost for men or boys If anything most would accept having another character to simply over

The worst part of Sanji is that his personality is mostly the same as Brook. Sanji gets nosebleeds. Brook sniffs panties. They fulfill the same role in the story.

Sanji's only advantage over Brook is his love sub plot with Nami but a lesbian Femji could still fulfill this role.

I think Femji is a solid writing decision.

 

[Yoho]

The worst part of Sanji is that his personality is mostly the same as Brook. Sanji gets nosebleeds. Brook sniffs panties. They fulfill the same role in the story.

Sanji's only advantage over Brook is his love sub plot with Nami but a lesbian Femji could still fulfill this role.

I think Femji is a solid writing decision.

It also be hilarious seeing Brook ask Femji to see her panties 🤣

 

[OneHater]

It also be hilarious seeing Brook ask Femji to see her panties 🤣

Nami and Femji could tag team Brook.

I feel like Nami doesn't really have a strong relationship with anyone besides Sanji or Luffy (in the East Blue Saga). Is there a relationship between Nami and Robin? So I think a Nami-Femji relationship would be very strong.

 

[Yoho]

Nami and Femji could tag team Brook.

I feel like Nami doesn't really have a strong relationship with anyone besides Sanji or Luffy (in the East Blue Saga). Is there a relationship between Nami and Robin? So I think a Nami-Femji relationship would be very strong.

🤔 I think Nami and Usopp have the strongest relationship but a Nami and Femji duo would be dynamic

 

[Peroroncino]

Nami and Femji could tag team Brook.

I feel like Nami doesn't really have a strong relationship with anyone besides Sanji or Luffy (in the East Blue Saga). Is there a relationship between Nami and Robin? So I think a Nami-Femji relationship would be very strong.

Femji would let brook see his panties cause he was willing to show them when he was in nami's body