Speculations Denjiro is not koshiro

Xione

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#24
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Monkey D Theories said:
Koshiro is too weak to be denjiro

zoro left koshiro because he learned all that koshiro could teach
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Denjiro is too weak to be Koshiro*
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MD Zolo said:
That is a very interesting point. Hiyori recognizing Wado may be an important clue. Hiyori is 26, so if she recognized it, may be she saw it before.

I am gonna add this to a point in favor of Denjiro being Koshirou.
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If she recognized because of Denjiro she would've also said " why do you have Denjiro's sword?!" Or the other's wouldve said it.

But they didn't.
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Shakky said:
Well, it's pretty obvious by now Koushirou definitely knew about Haki. And that's just too "impressive" coming from someone from East Blue
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His father is the one who taught people in Wano about Ryou. His daughter was superior to Zoro, potential on par with Ace/Sabo. The man has a pretty good impressive family tree tbh.
 
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Xione said:
If she recognized because of Denjiro she would've also said " why do you have Denjiro's sword?!" Or the other's wouldve said it.

But they didn't.
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Hiyori doesn't seem like the type to ask. She never questioned Zoro on santoryu style even though it definitely bothered her. We don't know her motives yet.

As for others, I can't explain that. But nevertheless, I am gonna put Hiyori potentially recognizing Wado in Denjiro is Koshirou column.
 
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Shakky said:
You don't get my point... Dude knew about the Breath of All Things, about Advanced CoA... That's some NW level shit
Hard to believe he just learned about in EB, where people does not even know what haki is
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I do man. But I don't think everybody of EB is ignorant. You can't have monsters arising from EB if they didn't know anything about Haki till they went to Grand Line.

In any case, I digress. I understand your point completely.
 
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MD Zolo said:
Hiyori doesn't seem like the type to ask. She never questioned Zoro on santoryu style even though it definitely bothered her. We don't know her motives yet.

As for others, I can't explain that. But nevertheless, I am gonna put Hiyori potentially recognizing Wado in Denjiro is Koshirou column.
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The fact that 7 people who knew denjiro and his sword better than hiyori and said nothing about it is more relevant than hiyori recognizing the sword.
And neither hiyori nor hitetsu said anything about denjiro and wado.
I'm not ruling out the possibility of koshiro and denjiro being the same person but that argument doesn't make it more likely.
 
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Luffy is the mc said:
The fact that 7 people who knew denjiro and his sword better than hiyori and said nothing about it is more relevant than hiyori recognizing the sword.
And neither hiyori nor hitetsu said anything about denjiro and wado.
I'm not ruling out the possibility of koshiro and denjiro being the same person but that argument doesn't make it more likely.
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Irrelevant. I am putting together arguments for and against Denjiro being Koshirou. Whether the argument makes one likely over another is not my concern at the moment.
 
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MD Zolo said:
Irrelevant. I am putting together arguments for and against Denjiro being Koshirou. Whether the argument makes one likely over another is not my concern at the moment.
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That's not how it works. You can't close your eyes on one argument just because another one fits your agenda better.
And again I'm not saying they are not the same person just that hiyori recognizing the sword isn't one.
 
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Luffy is the mc said:
That's not how it works. You can't close your eyes on one argument just because another one fits your agenda better.
And again I'm not saying they are not the same person just that hiyori recognizing the sword isn't one.
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Why not? I can put Hiyori potentially recognizing Wado as favorable for Denjiro being Koshiro and then put Scabbards not asking Zoro about Wado as favorable for Denjiro not being Koshiro.
 
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MD Zolo said:
Why not? I can put Hiyori potentially recognizing Wado as favorable for Denjiro being Koshiro and then put Scabbards not asking Zoro about Wado as favorable for Denjiro not being Koshiro.
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Yes you can do it. I didn't see you had two columns, I thought you were convinced that koshiro was denjiro and closing your eyes on the scabbards not asking zoro how he got the sword. My bad.
 
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Luffy is the mc said:
Yes you can do it. I didn't see you had two columns, I thought you were convinced that koshiro was denjiro and closing your eyes on the scabbards not asking zoro how he got the sword. My bad.
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I am not actually invested in the topic. It can go either way and I will be fine with it. I just don't like people taking a stance on one option and firmly rejecting the other option as impossible.
 
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