Speculations Devil Fruits Are NOT Natural

[OliveShark]

Devil Fruits Are NOT Natural
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If Devil Fruits are not man-made then that means they are magical.
- It has been repeated several times in the story that Devil Fruit abilities are not magic!

Why am I posting this?
- Many readers believe that Devil Fruits came into existence because someone wanted to do something all their life, but they couldn't do it, so, when they died, a nearby fruit transformed into a Devil Fruit containing their desire.
- The problem with this belief is that it implies that the Ancient Kingdom did not create the Devil fruits, but instead they have always simply been created by people wishing for things without any further explanation.

Personally, I believe that if Devil Fruits were created the way that other readers believe they were created then they would be constituted as a magical force in the universe, and that it would violate the rules of the story that have been previously repeated to us as readers at least to my understanding of it.

Instead, it is my belief that the Ancient Kingdom created the Devil Fruits using innate knowledge of the universe. Innate knowledge of the universe allowed them to bend the rules of physics and create something that would otherwise be unnatural. In this way, Devil Fruits are not magical - they are a result of human experimentation.

 

[Crow]

if Devil Fruits were created the way that other readers believe they were created then they would be constituted as a magical force in the universe

In this way, Devil Fruits are not magical - they are a result of human experimentation.

So, well. How do you theorize they ever since continued to come back whenever a previous user deceased? If there's an artifical machinery behind the process, I'd have expected it to stop at some point. (Though mother flame seems to be kind of a perpetuum mobile)

Unless the source of the process is in or on the moon (or there's something projected from the moon to the earth surface) and the moon folks indeed never stopped 'working' whatever they do up there.

Some degree of geographical dependency was indicated by the reveal that df users weren't able to enter Laugh Tale, after all.

 

[OliveShark]

So, well. How do you theorize they ever since continued to come back once a previous user deceases? If there's an artifical machinery behind the process, I'd have expected it to stop at some point.

Unless, the source of the process is in or on the moon (or there's something projected from the moon to the earth surface) and the moon volks never stopped 'working' whatever they do up there.

Some degree of geographical dependency was indicated by the reveal that df users weren't able to enter Laugh Tale, after all.

They use the reincarnation cycle. They figured out how to manipulate soul stuff. It may not require a machine at all. It's even possible that much of this is a result of ceremonial rituals and stuff like that.

 

[Crow]

They use the reincarnation cycle. They figured out how to manipulate soul stuff. It may not require a machine at all.

But.. I think at this point it's undeniable that special or cursed swords, at least to some extend, follow a related logic.
So the mechanism should be able to be tapped by scientifically less advanced/ peasant knowledge level people too.

 

[OliveShark]

But.. I think at this point it's undeniable that special or cursed swords, at least to some extend, follow a related logic.
So the mechanism should be able to be tapped by scientifically less advanced/ peasant knowledge level people too.

I think a necessary ingredient for the creation of the Devil Fruits was The Voice of All Things and that ability is so rare that only Roger has been said to have it. To gain The Voice of All Things, I think it needs to be passed down through reincarnation as a dormant power or someone masters Haki like completely and that's how they get it.

That way, almost nobody would ever be capable of creating them unless they had that particularly special ability. Certainly, anybody can learn it, but I think it requires an adherence to Cosmic Law/Heaven Law to do it. It's speculation, but it would explain a lot.

 

[Herrera95]

We don't know what DF are yet...

If Deadpunk now can duplicate DF why a more advanced civilization of the past(fucj logic) couldn't make DF on their owns? And DF creation was an art so they never exactly copied one another but did similar works (Fire/Magma, Snow/Ice, different animals and mythical creatures, magnetism and gravity etc)

 

[Juanpiz]

We don't know what DF are yet...

If Deadpunk now can duplicate DF why a more advanced civilization of the past(fucj logic) couldn't make DF on their owns? And DF creation was an art so they never exactly copied one another but did similar works (Fire/Magma, Snow/Ice, different animals and mythical creatures, magnetism and gravity etc)

DF are just the items of the power
Another thing /vessel could be used too

 

[Borasey79]

I think a necessary ingredient for the creation of the Devil Fruits was The Voice of All Things and that ability is so rare that only Roger has been said to have it. To gain The Voice of All Things, I think it needs to be passed down through reincarnation as a dormant power or someone masters Haki like completely and that's how they get it.

That way, almost nobody would ever be capable of creating them unless they had that particularly special ability. Certainly, anybody can learn it, but I think it requires an adherence to Cosmic Law/Heaven Law to do it. It's speculation, but it would explain a lot.

Hearing a "devil"'s voice AND being able to bind it to an object almost in perpetuity.
Did Imu use this same knowledge to bind devils to human bodies instead, making the Gorosei living DFs?

 

[OliveShark]

Hearing a "devil"'s voice AND being able to bind it to an object almost in perpetuity.
Did Imu use this same knowledge to bind devils to human bodies instead, making the Gorosei living DFs?

It's possible

 

[nik87]

You saw first hand how Demon God was created.
The only mystery left is how it will eventually turn into a fruit and where that fruit spawns.