Questions & Mysteries Did Judge's Son use CoA against Vergo ?

[Finalbeta]

Can Judge's son beat any vice admiral without raid suit?:zorothink:

That depends on the Vice Admiral.

Technically even with RS he still can't defeat Old geezer Garp funnily, wonder if EoS Sanji would at least come close however.

But without RS he isn't defeating the likes of Momonga and Onigumo or perhaps Tsuru too by hype and portrayal.

 

[SwordCHAD]

That depends on the Vice Admiral.

Technically even with RS he still can't defeat Old geezer Garp funnily, wonder if EoS Sanji would at least come close however.

But without RS he isn't defeating the likes of Momonga and Onigumo or perhaps Tsuru too by hype and portrayal.

From vice admiral that name I'm familiar like Tokikake, Gion, Smoker, Vergo they feel like still stronger than Sanji without RS. He should be able beat Maynard though

 

[T.D.A]

Probably

 

[Roronoa-sama]

yes he did but his coa was (and is) very weak (he didn't nothing against page one when ussop will defeat him)

 

[pg13]

yes he did but his coa was (and is) very weak (he didn't nothing against page one when ussop will defeat him)

literally none of them used haki.... that entire exchange was in base.

 

[D.Querna]

First parry no. Then yes, like Oda draws

In NW withkut Haki u are in trouble... So...

 

[critical mindset]

People are so afraid of Vergo

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

 

[Konstantis]

When we're on the subject of Ichiji, Ichiji vs Katakuri? Was Ichiji low diffed or was gangbanged by all the BMP which is why Kata got the upperhand, would you agree?

No different from Sanji, overpowered by the smaller genie when distracted and gangbanged at the Tea Party, but then clashed with the biggest genie at the later stage of the arc

That's the problem, Katakuri for few manga chapters was portrayted far stronger than he appeared in the end. Like Katakuri for one minute was invincible, strong enough to handle and match g4. But also in other moments he was equel to base Luffy...
Now if you put Ichiji against Katakuri, he wasn't one shotted, Katakuri just grab him, but then again he wasn't able to deal any damage on Katakuri either. Actually only guys who have destructive power, or maybe power of light, or power to immobilize could defeat Katakuri in fair fight, if you think about it. His body is paramecia and case of FS Katakuri could predict any move and manipulate his own body form. Even if Ichiji, or Vergo will use haki they will end up in same position - not able(for now at least) deal any damage. That's the point...you can't scale Ichiji based on how he handled with Katakuri.

 

[critical mindset]

That's the problem, Katakuri for few manga chapters was portrayted far stronger than he appeared in the end. Like Katakuri for one minute was invincible, strong enough to handle and match g4. But also in other moments he was equel to base Luffy...
Now if you put Ichiji against Katakuri, he wasn't one shotted, Katakuri just grab him, but then again he wasn't able to deal any damage on Katakuri either. Actually only guys who have destructive power, or maybe power of light, or power to immobilize could defeat Katakuri in fair fight, if you think about it. His body is paramecia and case of FS Katakuri could predict any move and manipulate his own body form. Even if Ichiji, or Vergo will use haki they will end up in same position - not able(for now at least) deal any damage. That's the point...you can't scale Ichiji based on how he handled with Katakuri.

Kata is disappointing

His whole family lied on his behalf to hype up his false reputation, he didnt even knew they propped him up with lies and knew he was average behind his back, so if he is that pathetic he might as well receive help in gangbanging Ichiji. I dont remember Ichijis feats very well other than the Oven thing

What is Ichiji's greatest feat anyway? If it is the Oven thing that was a pure sneak attack where he could max out on power, yet Oven got back up later, while Sanji is so hard be broke his collarbone with a kick.

Sanji > his brothers in feats ?

 

[Gauntlet]

Sanji could of been using invisible haki. In any case both Vergo and Sanji are low tier trash, with Vergo just being the stronger of the garbage here. So who cares?