General & Others Did mihawk try to fight the strongest active sword user?

[Albino 👑]

This is headcanon

in fact in the Vivre cards, Whitebeard was WSM during his fight with Roger…

note that you don’t know how Whitebeard and Kaido got their titles outside of your headcanon

all we know is that THEY DIDNT BEAT ANYONE for their titles… hence why Luffy didn’t become WSC and teach didn’t become WSM after beating them

Like I said in my personal opinion the wsm and wsc titles relate to their fruits

Even if Whitebeard was considered both the wsm and wsp while being equal to Roger it still makes sense honestly. Roger being equal with whitebeard with his haki hax and whitebeard still being able to fight him on equal grounds

Either way whitebeard proved his superiority over everyone besides Roger. Roger only able to compete with him through hax

Kaidos multiple fights with the emperors and marines are well known. Him being recognized for his strength makes more than enough sense

You keep asking who they beat as if they haven’t proved themselves against the other members of rocks or the marines. It applies to mihawk too they don’t have to beat anyone outright if they prove themselves superior to the rest

Difference is we know Whitebeard and kaido proved themselves through their battles with the likes of Roger, rocks pirates, and marines in the new world
Mihawks most well known accomplishment is fighting shanks 13+ years ago with a bounty lower than a billion

 

[Cruxroux]

So mihawk only became the wss because shanks lost his arm 12 years ago
Nice

Ever heard of Haki blooms clown?
It was mihawk who was famous not Shanks lol , Mihawk is the reason for all the haki blooms shanks got.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

proved themselves against the other members of rocks or the marines. It applies to mihawk too they don’t have to beat anyone outright if they prove themselves superior to the rest

No, simply being strong doesn’t mean shit

I can say Big mom is JUST AS WORTHY of being called WSC or WSM as Kaido and Whitebeard

like why the fuck isn’t Shanks WSM right now? (I’m not taking your headcanon regarding fruits as an argument since it falls apart regarding Blackbeard who has both Whitebeard’s fruit and the darkness fruit yet he isn’t WSM)

The only thing kido and Whitebeard did was simply being strong… NOT THE STRONGEST… Their titles have “STRONGEST” in them… If Kaido and Whitebeard NEVER beat anyone then why are they “STRONGEST”

They didn’t earn their titles. Hence why no one earned their titles AFTER they were beaten… The story doesn’t give a fuck who the current WSC or WSM are because the previous ones didn’t do shit to get those titles to begin with

Mihawk, Zoro, and the WSS title are completely different. First because we haven’t seen Mihawk’s backstory like we saw Whitebeard and Kaido, and second because ODA HAS TOLD US HOW YOU GET THE TITLE…

This is the thing you guys always want to ignore. We know how WSS title gets acquired… that automatically makes it more important than WSM or WSC in the plot because it’s literally possible to actually acquire the WSS title unlike the WSC and WSM titles that no one gives a fuck about

 

[Rumble]

Mihawk was probably WSS the moment he came into possession of/forged Yoru.

He probably didn't lack for challengers early on in this reign.

 

[Albino 👑]

No, simply being strong doesn’t mean shit

I can say Big mom is JUST AS WORTHY of being called WSC or WSM as Kaido and Whitebeard

like why the fuck isn’t Shanks WSM right now? (I’m not taking your headcanon regarding fruits as an argument since it falls apart regarding Blackbeard who has both Whitebeard’s fruit and the darkness fruit yet he isn’t WSM)

The only thing kido and Whitebeard did was simply being strong… NOT THE STRONGEST… Their titles have “STRONGEST” in them… If Kaido and Whitebeard NEVER beat anyone then why are they “STRONGEST”

They didn’t earn their titles. Hence why no one earned their titles AFTER they were beaten… The story doesn’t give a fuck who the current WSC or WSM are because the previous ones didn’t do shit to get those titles to begin with

Mihawk, Zoro, and the WSS title are completely different. First because we haven’t seen Mihawk’s backstory like we saw Whitebeard and Kaido, and second because ODA HAS TOLD US HOW YOU GET THE TITLE…

This is the thing you guys always want to ignore. We know how WSS title gets acquired… that automatically makes it more important than WSM or WSC in the plot because it’s literally possible to actually acquire the WSS title unlike the WSC and WSM titles that no one gives a fuck about

They aren’t the strongest because they didn’t prove themselves in their battles unlike Kaido. If it was debatable then Kaido wouldn’t be considered the strongest it’d be left open between the 3 of them

They proved themselves against the strongest. The fought the other emperors and marines. Based on what they showed and what the others didn’t they were the strongest
Even if a god tier character (Imu) doesn’t do anything to prove their strength or superiority they can’t be considered the strongest.

?
Just about every pirate wants to be the strongest pirate. We don’t know if anyone is referred to as the strongest yet after wano. All we know it not being luffy makes sense because he had to share credit

Okay how specifically did mihawk get his title and who did he beat? Since apparently only his title matters lol

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

They proved themselves against the strongest. The fought the other emperors and marines.

and that’s the problem. Big mom should be WSM or WAC since she has AS MUCH EVIDENCE for it as Kaido or Whitebeard

if the criteria is “fought an emperor” then Big mom or shanks should have those titles… but they don’t, because that’s not the criteria for those titles

Just about every pirate wants to be the strongest pirate

no, just about every pirate wants to pirate king… literally no character besides Zoro has ever said they wanted one of those Strongest titles… even the people who killed those “strongest” guys didn’t want their titles as they killed them… teach doesn’t give a fuck and Luffy doesn’t either

 

[Albino 👑]

and that’s the problem. Big mom should be WSM or WAC since she has AS MUCH EVIDENCE for it as Kaido or Whitebeard

if the criteria is “fought an emperor” then Big mom or shanks should have those titles… but they don’t, because that’s not the criteria for those titles

no, just about every pirate wants to pirate king… literally no character besides Zoro has ever said they wanted one of those Strongest titles… even the people who killed those “strongest” guys didn’t want their titles as they killed them… teach doesn’t give a fuck and Luffy doesn’t either

She doesn’t because if she did than neither would have the title. While big mom was staying in tottoland building her empire Kaido was challenging everyone he could growing his own strength

Most people that want to be pirate king want to be the strongest even Luffy himself

Also who did mihawk beat since you keep asking

 

[LolonoisZolo]

They aren’t the strongest because they didn’t prove themselves in their battles unlike Kaido. If it was debatable then Kaido wouldn’t be considered the strongest it’d be left open between the 3 of them

They proved themselves against the strongest. The fought the other emperors and marines. Based on what they showed and what the others didn’t they were the strongest
Even if a god tier character (Imu) doesn’t do anything to prove their strength or superiority they can’t be considered the strongest.

?
Just about every pirate wants to be the strongest pirate. We don’t know if anyone is referred to as the strongest yet after wano. All we know it not being luffy makes sense because he had to share credit

Okay how specifically did mihawk get his title and who did he beat? Since apparently only his title matters lol

Where was it stated ''they fought the other emperors'' ? Last time we saw BM and Kaido, they said they didn't see each other for 20years...
Shanks stopped Kaido from going to MF ? Yeah probably by giving him Sake (most plausible explanation). Because let's face it, do you see Kaido twerking to the rat haired ?
''Kaido fought marines'' ? Mihawk was literally called the marine hunter.
So who did Kaido face exactly to deserve his ''undeniable title''?

 

[Albino 👑]

Where was it stated ''they fought the other emperors'' ? Last time we saw BM and Kaido, they said they didn't see each other for 20years...
Shanks stopped Kaido from going to MF ? Yeah probably by giving him Sake (most plausible explanation). Because let's face it, do you see Kaido twerking to the rat haired ?
''Kaido fought marines'' ? Mihawk was literally called the marine hunter.
So who did Kaido face exactly to deserve his ''undeniable title''?

Mihawk was called the marine hunter yet his most significant and highlighted feat is fighting shanks 13+ years ago that didn’t even have a billion berry bounty yet

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Kaido was challenging everyone he could growing his own strength

Most people that want to be pirate king want to be the strongest even Luffy himself

Also who did mihawk beat since you keep asking

Luffy has never said they wanted”I want to be the strongest”… he said he wants to defeat the emperors… he never once says he wants their titles or simply to be “the strongest”

Kaido never fought Whitebeard, it’s debatable if he fought shanks (also shanks is the one that came after him, not the other way around) and Kaido never fought the current admirals… the first top tier we know Kaido fought in the last 20 years was Big mom… he went from Oden to big mom… he cheated Oden and drew with big mom and somehow that makes him WSC?

Again if the criteria is “fight an emperor or top tier”, there’s better people than Kaido… Hell, what does that make Luffy? Luffy straight up DEFATED multiply top tiers… Kaido only beat Oden (through cheating)… Why isn’t Luffy WSC?

we don’t know Mihawk’s backstory so unlike Kaido, we can’t say he didn’t do shit… Also, his vivre card directly says he fought every swordsman worth fighting AROUND THE ENTIRE WORLD… Kaido is said to have fought the emperors and marines but we now know he didn’t win, and he last fought anyone strong, 20 fucking years ago

 

[Etzel Andergast]

So yeah did mihawk ever try and challenge the big mom?

Assuming he didn’t get the wss title from below 1 billion berry shanks he’s probably tried fighting other characters

So thinking of the active sword users post Roger’s death there’s

1. 2 arms but less than a billion berry shanks. Mihawk refusing to fight him with 1 arm
2. Bogard?
3. Shiki disappeared
4. Rayleigh disappeared
5. King who’s usually in wano or with kaido
6. Oden who was in wano a place mihawk hasn’t been
7. Shiryu who was in impel down if I remember correctly
8. Vista who mihawk didn’t fight
9. Smoothie who likely mainly stays in tottoland
10. Cracker same as smoothie but more so
11. Aramaki was possibly in prison and relatively unknown to the world
12. Issho also relatively unknown to the world

That pretty much means the strongest active person that uses a sword was Linlin. Anyone else you can argue about being stronger than her is either dead or inactive. Mihawk not going after them is one thing but not going after her would be crazy unless he doesn’t view her as a swordsman
At the same time regardless of whether or not he thinks she’s a swordsman I do think it’s likely he went after her. Only because it fits the theory that the main cross guild members lost their drive in connection to the original pre timeskip emperors

1. Buggy shanks
2. Crocodile Whitebeard
3. Moria kaido
4. Mihawk big mom

We know he isn’t trying to be the strongest blade or meito user so he wouldn’t care if a knife or scythe user was stronger than him

Besides big mom and whitebeard both characters we know mihawk didn’t defeat I guess there’s Bogard aka Garp’s Rayleigh/king. We know mihawk use to be known as marine hunter in the past. Bogard really being the only notable guy with a sword

It’s definitely possible he fought Aramaki or Issho in the past but they were again relatively unknown. It’s even likely that they only received their fruits after joining the marines/wg

You simply forgot that Garling and the god knights exist

 

[RiShin]

If only Hawkeye has a sense of credibility to his name beside fighting Pre yonkou Shanks and Yoru who we don't even know if he forge it himself.

His own vivie card contradicts the manga when he didn't fight vista as his rise to the so called title of WSS. So who else did he not fought that were exceptional swordsman and why?

Also when people acknowledge that some titles and claims are meant to be proven wrong later in the story, The better.

This is Luffy's show, not Afro Samurai who does headband rankings to show who number 1...

 

[Mr.9000]

That mom freak will be telling her big ass to DODGE, but it be too late if she fought me - Mihawk probably

Tbh i dont think their crews would allow a 1v1, plus I think Mihawk saw no one stronger than Shanks and maybe WB before he learned the truth.

Oda should do a what if story and create a tournament arc with all the greats.

 

[haxxor]

We’ll never know about Hawkeye since he’d take every escape route he can to avoid battling any top tier

 

[CbShadow]

How they became emperors is pretty clear
After xebec fell his crew and Roger competed for the top spot in the new world. Newgate shiki and Linlin the main stars of the crew being the ones to gain the most fame
Kaido likely being recognized as a top dog along with Whitebeard and big mom a bit after taking over wano
Shanks being recognized 6 years ago probably from making elbaf his territory imo

We know mihawk fought shanks 13+ years ago and seemingly hasn’t fought anyone else relevant besides that


? We knew about that in thriller bark

It's still speculations on how the old Yonkos became Yonko since the manga never told us.

It's no different in me speculating Mihawk fought Rayleigh and broke one of his swords. We know he fought strong opponents until there's no more worthy challenges. We know Rayleigh used to carry 2 swords back when he part of Roger's crew.

Mihawk history will be for revealed when it's time. It's not time yet because the strongest characters are typically saved for last.

 

[Daves John]

Oda made up entire new top tier in Wang Zhi to give Blackbeard's island more and him more hype.

All of you who are focusing on the fact that we didn't see explicitly people beaten by Mihawk, will look very foolish when he gets his backstory and we learn of all the worthy swordsmen who beat.

Especially since it was established almost 1100 chapters ago that all those who would seek to become World's strongest swordsmen got their ambitions absolutely crushed, which explains why people don't aim for it, because Mihawk is acknowledged as the world's strongest swordsman, reigning above all the others. Pirates, marines, world government, they all agree, Mihawk is THE goat in his domain.

 

[Nadel]

Mihawk doesn't need to fight anyone, he's already the most powerful.
Mihawk tramples any swordsman (including Shanks), Mihawk is the TOP 1.