Questions & Mysteries Did Ryuma get black blade while young?

Is Zolo a fraud for not making a black blade earlier like Ryuma

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#23
how does he already have a black blade at such a young age?
Because he has already fought enough battles and created a strong bond with the sword.

Considering that the only thing that Ryuma, Mihawk and Zoro truly have in common that separates them from the rest is that they are obsessed with fighting everyone to the top, odds are this is heavily involved in making a black blade. It is a common trope in Japanes pop media, after all, with examples in very popular franchises.

Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks, Linlin... None of these sword users actively spent their lives looking for adversaries to defeat and cutting challenges to surpass. But Ryuma, Mihawk and Zoro do; which is why they ultimately forged a black blade.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#24
Because he has already fought enough battles and created a strong bond with the sword.

Considering that the only thing that Ryuma, Mihawk and Zoro truly have in common that separates them from the rest is that they are obsessed with fighting everyone to the top, odds are this is heavily involved in making a black blade. It is a common trope in Japanes pop media, after all, with examples in very popular franchises.

Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks, Linlin... None of these sword users actively spent their lives looking for adversaries to defeat and cutting challenges to surpass. But Ryuma, Mihawk and Zoro do; which is why they ultimately forged a black blade.
What about oden.
And is zoro gonna have more fights with enma than Ray shanks and Roger did in their whole lives ?
 
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Herrera95

#25
Ryuuma made a black blade the moment he touched the sword as a baby.

Being a prodigy doesn't mean you will be the best (althought Ryuuma was) and not being a prodigy doesn't mean you can't be the best (which Zoro will be).

People have different time and evolution pace. But the ceiling is somewhat similar to all of them while someone not prodigy can have a higher ceiling to someone who is prodigy.
 
#26
What about oden.
And is zoro gonna have more fights with enma than Ray shanks and Roger did in their whole lives ?
Oden didn't aim at defeating every swordsman and cutting everything. He dreamed of freedom, focused on his inherited responsabilities and so on. But didn't intend to reach the swordsmanship's top.

From our perspective, Zoro isn't going to have more fight with Enma than the rest with their swords; from in-verse logic and the narrative behind, Zoro is indeed going to bond more deeply with it. Again, it can't be a coincidence that the only people who forged (or will forge) a black sword have a goal based on fighting their way to the top of swordsmanship. It's such a basic trope in Japanese media that it's unlikely to be a random fortuity.

I highly, highly, highly doubt Roger, Oden, Rayleigh, Shanks, whoever you think of who isn't Ryuma, Mihawk or Zoro ever cared about looking for the strongest to defeat them. Ryuma was looking for the "King" as per Monsters; Mihawk has been said to look for adversaries until he didn't find anyone left; and Zoro's whole dream is about achieving Mihawk's title.

I'm convinced this will be a defining factor in forging a black blade, potentially traced back to the "warrior's soul" that Monsters talked about. Ryuma, Mihawk and Zoro's goals is about being warriors. Anybody else, so far, had other goals that indirectly forced them to grow strong, but never directly aimed for warriorness itself.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#27
Oden didn't aim at defeating every swordsman and cutting everything.

From our perspective, Zoro isn't going to have more fight with Enma than the rest with their swords; from in-verse logic and the narrative behind, Zoro is indeed going to bond more deeply with it. Again, it can't be a coincidence that the only people who forged (or will forge) a black sword have a goal based on fighting their way to the top of swordsmanship.

I highly, highly, highly doubt Roger, Oden, Rayleigh, Shanks, whoever you think of who isn't Ryuma, Mihawk or Zoro ever cared about looking for the strongest to defeat them. Ryuma was looking for the "King" as per Monsters; Mihawk has been said to look for adversaries until he didn't find anyone left; and Zoro's whole dream is about achieving Mihawk's title.

I'm convinced this will be a defining factor in forging a black blade, potentially traced back to the "warrior's soul" that Monsters talked about. Ryuma, Mihawk and Zoro's goals is about being warriors. Anybody else, so far, had other goals that indirectly forced them to grow strong, but never directly aimed for warriorness itself.
You're chatting shit.

Oden literally ran head first into battle since he was a child. Wherever he went to fight whoever from doji to wb to Roger to kaido and all he fought in between.
Roger is exactly the same in the snippets we have seen him jumping forward to fight the strongest people he sees from rox to Oden to wb and all those in-between saying to marines bring him garp and sengoku to FIGHT
With his sword ACE being called his CONSTANT COMPANION in his voyages he had such a bond with it he named his son after it.
Why else was shanks fighting mihawk ?
COMPETED RUTHLESSLY with each other.
 
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