Questions & Mysteries Did Zoro use advanced Conquerors Haki against Kaido in Chapter 1010?

[Zenos7]

Or I dont know he could be overcomplicating that answer from Oda. 99% of normal human beings would understand that Oda was referring to both attacks. Just because you use some dumb ass analogy doesnt mean you are right.

i didnt say he was right, i told you to have the intellectual honesty to admit his point is possible. But seems you lack that.

 

[HA001]

i didnt say he was right, i told you to have the intellectual honesty to admit his point is possible. But seems you lack that.

Stfu lenos

 

[Zenos7]

99% of normal human beings would understand that Oda was referring to both attacks.

i doubt this very much

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Stfu lenos

no u LA00L

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It was left unclear
If zoro used CoC, him and kaido will be sure of it
And Oda would clearly show us the visuals

Since when someone uses CoC without us seeing visuals of it?

did you read the last couple pages?

Do you see any black ligthning here? Oda confirmed this attack to contain CoC.

Here is the conversation between the child and oda who confirmed odens paradise shirataki which he used on the mountain god was imbued with CoC.

The very same thing could be applied onto zoros ashrua tbh.

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By him stating that Oden used CoC on the attack with the mountain god, he also states indirectly that he used it against kaido aswell. Tougen Totsuka however does have the black lightning, which is sometimes an indicator for CoC. The manga basically states itself that ryou alone is too shallow by kaido and luffy stating it.

 

[BornInAbyss]

oda did not use an analogy. that was never part of his point. not even close.

hhiragoro is using an analogy to explain to you how it is possible to interpret odas answer differently.

Yeah I quickly understood my mistake. But I was only reffering to HHiragoros anology afterwards and why I think it can't work as one.
Here is what I mean:

For an analogy to work 2 things have to be similar, not be in the exact same group or category and differentiate from each other to work.
Here is the definition and my understanding of an Analogy: Analogy Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

An analogy would be for example a human brain and a vast computer. They share similarities in calculating stuff but 1. the brain is biological and the computer is not. 2. The brain is capable of thinking and holding a conciousness and the computer is not. They are similar in one way or another but differenciate themselves completely. This however cannot be applied to odens and rogers attack explained above you.

By your logic of an analogy would be ''Oda meant Kamusari and not Togen Shirataki because they may be similar since they are slashing techniques but rogers attack had CoC in it therefore oda meant kamusari with it.'' How can you prove that Odens attack hasn't had CoC in it? Ashura had it, so why not odens as well? That would only make sense if only Rogers attack would have CoC in it. But we all saw that Zoros attack also had CoC in it without any lighting whatsoever. It would only be an analogy if Odens attack would not contain CoC to differenciate from Rogers one, but we all know CoC imbued attacks penetrate. Both Odens and Rogers attack did penetrate. And don't tell me zoros attack didn't penetrate, it did. Everything was too shallow, CoA and ACoA. Nothing could penetrate enough to deal lasting damage to kaido.

 

[Zenos7]

and why I think it can't work as one.

well it does work and is fairly simple.

An analogy would be for example a human brain and a vast computer. They share similarities in calculating stuff but 1. the brain is biological and the computer is not. 2. The brain is capable of thinking and holding a conciousness and the computer is not. They are similar in one way or another but differenciate themselves completely. This however cannot be applied to odens and rogers attack explained above you.

the analogy isnt between odens and rogers attack, the analogy is between odas response and hiragoros hypothetical response to the two different car shit.

 

[Finalbeta]

It was left unclear
If zoro used CoC, him and kaido will be sure of it
And Oda would clearly show us the visuals

Since when someone uses CoC without us seeing visuals of it?

There are visuals Ndule

Look at the top of this image at the black lightning shades

And since when did Kaido show doubts?

 

[Zenos7]

And since when did Kaido show doubts?

he didnt, noodle is clutching at straws to keep denying zoro has CoC.

Spoiler

the way kaido reacts to both instances is very similar

 

[Z-Saber]

Zoro's Dragon twister > Yamato + Luffy advCOC combined

halfdead Zoro's Asura coc >>> Whole fucking verse + Kaido

This is why I call you a parody account. Trolling is funny here and there but when literally every single one of your posts is... whatever this is, you can't be real.
Anyways, getting on topic...

he didnt, noodle is clutching at straws to keep denying zoro has CoC.

Spoiler

the way kaido reacts to both instances is very similar

This is actually a really good point. Idk, I don't think its a very good idea to argue that Kaido was "questioning" whether or not Zoro actually had it/used it. The question was more of a rhetorical one. Kind of like how you'd say "another one?" or "this again?", as if its something you had seen numerous times before which makes perfect sense because Conqueror's haki in itself isn't that rare in the new world and I'm sure Kaido has come across more than his fair share of Conquerors during his time in the new world.

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It was left unclear
If zoro used CoC, him and kaido will be sure of it
And Oda would clearly show us the visuals

Since when someone uses CoC without us seeing visuals of it?

oh yeah, I mean to quote you as well, read above^

 

[Zenos7]

This is actually a really good point. Idk, I don't think its a very good idea to argue that Kaido was "questioning" whether or not Zoro actually had it/used it. The question was more of a rhetorical one. Kind of like how you'd say "another one?" or "this again?", as if its something you had seen numerous times before which makes perfect sense because Conqueror's haki in itself isn't that rare in the new world and I'm sure Kaido has come across more than his fair share of Conquerors during his time in the new world.

yes, the issue is noodle cant read

 

[BornInAbyss]

the analogy isnt between odens and rogers attack, the analogy is between odas response and hiragoros hypothetical response to the two different car shit.

Now I am even more confused. But let's just stop here. Maybe I am too stupid to get his analogy of Oda and the car thing. I won't try to force understanding it.

OT Kaido was stressed and shocked about zoros usage of CoC. He wasn't impressed by luffys basic CoC. He had the same reaction when luffy began to use advanced CoC to zoros usage of CoC, which basically hints that zoro used advanced CoC even if it wasn't clearly visualised.

 

[Finalbeta]

yes, the issue is noodle cant read

He can't even see apparently as he didn't manage to spot the CoC lightning sparkles for Farce of the Dead assuming he is genuine xd

 

[stairs-kun]

No.

 

[BornInAbyss]

No.

He still might have used it but since it was unconcious it wasn't drawn like it usually is being drawn. Kinda like a teaser.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

You can't do lasting damage to kaido with CoA alone

Oden needed ACoC to do it, so imo Zoro did as well. I also just don't think Kaido would react that way if it was just basic CoC.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

NDule Logic: Zoro didn't use CoC coating.

That means without CoC coating he scarred Kaido.
Which means with CoC coating he surpasses Roger after this arc

We win

 

[Finalbeta]

 

[Killer#777]

Zoro has been using infusing conquerors haki unconsciously since Ennis lobby when he first used it against kaku.

 

[CbShadow]

Zoro has been using infusing conquerors haki unconsciously since Ennis lobby when he first used it against kaku.

No, he hasn't. If that was true we would have saw black lightning or at least Kaido wouldn't mention about Zoro coating his attack with CoC. Not just releasing during their 1v1 clash.

 

[Killer#777]

No, he hasn't. If that was true we would have saw black lightning or at least Kaido wouldn't mention about Zoro coating his attack with CoC. Not just releasing during their 1v1 clash.

Black lightning is not the indication of the used of conquerors haki.

 

[Rumble]

Probably.

Zoro is a special, once-a-generation talent among all the swordsmen in the world. Given that his sword will help the future Pirate King, reshape the world anew and usher in a new era, there is really no telling to the depths of his potential. He probably did use CoC Haki.

I think his floor is Kaidou. I believe EoS Zoro will be a wandering samurai possessing the destructive power and capacity to change the balance of the entire world akin to an Ancient Weapon, only living, with a terrible sense of direction and capacity to hold grudges.