Chapter Discussion Did Zoro use Barrier Haki in stopping Hakai?
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Yeah, looks like a freakin big barrier haki move.
For once his arms would simply not be able to physically block or "catch" such a blast. The energy of it would walk past the areas his swords aren't reaching.
Also it's the power of those two yonks combined. Those two are the actual top dogs in physical strength.
Would like to see how anyone tries to explain how that's a physical strength only feat. It's legit impossible for it being solely a matter of phyiscal strength, whether it's Zoro or anyone else we are talking about.
Did it play into it? Yes, most likely, even if barrier haki moves were normally portrayed to work independend of any physical strength based component- Like guys do not even make physical contact with the opposing force during barrier haki moves and they are also performed fucking casually (admirals/Rayleigh just stretching out their arms and firing it off).
But Zoro cleary put in some work. I speculate that keeping a barrier up for a small amount of time might require the user to physically lean into it, in order to "back it up", different to when you just shoot it out once. That might explain Zoro's exertion.
But yeah, imo he just put a huge chunk of haki into a barrier haki move and that's the result, similiar to how the admirals did it in MF.
For once his arms would simply not be able to physically block or "catch" such a blast. The energy of it would walk past the areas his swords aren't reaching.
Also it's the power of those two yonks combined. Those two are the actual top dogs in physical strength.
Would like to see how anyone tries to explain how that's a physical strength only feat. It's legit impossible for it being solely a matter of phyiscal strength, whether it's Zoro or anyone else we are talking about.
Did it play into it? Yes, most likely, even if barrier haki moves were normally portrayed to work independend of any physical strength based component- Like guys do not even make physical contact with the opposing force during barrier haki moves and they are also performed fucking casually (admirals/Rayleigh just stretching out their arms and firing it off).
But Zoro cleary put in some work. I speculate that keeping a barrier up for a small amount of time might require the user to physically lean into it, in order to "back it up", different to when you just shoot it out once. That might explain Zoro's exertion.
But yeah, imo he just put a huge chunk of haki into a barrier haki move and that's the result, similiar to how the admirals did it in MF.
And what was seen in 1001?
If you aim at his comment about Luffy's Red Roc, then I can already tell you, that Luffy used advCoA lvl2/internal destruction haki/ryou or whatever you wanna call it for Red Roc and that's why Zoro said what he said.
And btw barrier haki and covering your sword in haki follow the same mechanics: You need to be able to let haki flow off your body.
They just differentiate in their further applications: Barrier- You just shoot it out. Sword enhancing- You put in on your sword to make it more powerful, sharper or induce your air slashes/long range moves with it.
Hyo even performed a barrier haki move, while talking about how "Ryou" is what Wano Samurais use to enhance their swords.
If you aim at his comment about Luffy's Red Roc, then I can already tell you, that Luffy used advCoA lvl2/internal destruction haki/ryou or whatever you wanna call it for Red Roc and that's why Zoro said what he said.
And btw barrier haki and covering your sword in haki follow the same mechanics: You need to be able to let haki flow off your body.
They just differentiate in their further applications: Barrier- You just shoot it out. Sword enhancing- You put in on your sword to make it more powerful, sharper or induce your air slashes/long range moves with it.
Hyo even performed a barrier haki move, while talking about how "Ryou" is what Wano Samurais use to enhance their swords.
Huh? It's the other way around, mate.
If you use barrier haki, you ain't touching the opponent with your fist, cause you shoot a barrier into his face.That same barrier is inbetween your fist or your palm and the opponent's face.
Luffy mentioned it twice (iirc), that Rayleigh did not even make physical contact, when he used that "advanced haki form" against the gigantic elephant.
Whereas within internal destruction haki, you've got nothing inbetween your first and the opponents face, cause you're not performing a barrier to deal the damage. You punch him in the face, while simultanously casting your haki into the opponent's body.
Also there exists a distinct visual feature for the portrayal of barrier haki, the actual barrier. There was no barrier seen during Red Roc. We only see two impacts: The fist's accumulation and the physical impact of the attack. The latter looks different to a haki barrier.
If you use barrier haki, you ain't touching the opponent with your fist, cause you shoot a barrier into his face.That same barrier is inbetween your fist or your palm and the opponent's face.
Luffy mentioned it twice (iirc), that Rayleigh did not even make physical contact, when he used that "advanced haki form" against the gigantic elephant.
Whereas within internal destruction haki, you've got nothing inbetween your first and the opponents face, cause you're not performing a barrier to deal the damage. You punch him in the face, while simultanously casting your haki into the opponent's body.
Also there exists a distinct visual feature for the portrayal of barrier haki, the actual barrier. There was no barrier seen during Red Roc. We only see two impacts: The fist's accumulation and the physical impact of the attack. The latter looks different to a haki barrier.
yeah, as i understand the invisible barrier can only do external damage without physical contact so hardening is not necessary, and the other version you make that barrier enters your opponent body causing internal damage, you can still use hardening to deal external damage though.
so neither version requires the user to maintain physical contact.
so neither version requires the user to maintain physical contact.
Internal destruction I thought you didn't need to touch as seen in the 2 post with luffy
So it's either internal destruction haki or a normal CoA hardened punch, but it hurt Kaido, so it can't be the latter and therefore has to be an internal destruction haki attack.
Did you mean that?
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Yeah, right. i agree.
Barrier haki- Barrier does external damage/physical contact with the opponent, not your fist.
Internal destruction haki- You can punch your opponent while causing internal destruction at the same time or you just use internal destruction without a punch/a physical attack.
The difference between both is though, that during internal destruction your fist still can make physical contact with your opponent if you want to, while during barrier haki moves, solely your barrier haki will make physical contact.
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yeah, luffy can just put his hand (with no hardening just the invisible haki) in-front of someone and still do damage to him be it external or internal the technique can do damage without force., but it can be more powerful if he throw a punch clad in basic hardening (for external damage) while allowing the invisible barrier to seep into the opponent body for internal damage.
so there's two levels to the technique:
1- offense and defense: can only block or do external damage with the barrier.
2- only offense: allows for more versatility, where you can only do internal damage, or you can pair it with hardening and do both internal and external damage given that you established physical contact.
so there's two levels to the technique:
1- offense and defense: can only block or do external damage with the barrier.
2- only offense: allows for more versatility, where you can only do internal damage, or you can pair it with hardening and do both internal and external damage given that you established physical contact.
