General & Others Disappointed of Wano arc!

#1
I don’t understand of dragging the story of One Piece for so long. This whole Wano arc is a massive disappointment, just like the previous arcs Whole Cake Island, Zou, Dressrosa and Punk Hazard.

Unnecessary characters getting introduced and chapter by chapter we only get events of characters talking to each other and characters fighting and talking mid fight. Zero-character development for Kaido and the Beast Pirates. So much for being “the arc” for Zoro.

King and Queen (my favorite commanders thus far) are bat shit, literally trashed along with Kaido. Kaido and the Beast Pirates don’t live up to their titles thanks to how the story has gone downhill.

It would have been better if this arc was focused on Zoro’s identity and backstory and the Shimotsuki clan instead of the Kozuki clan that was introduced for no reason with their appearance at Punk Hazard. This is how most would’ve preferred it:
  • Zoro’s identity and backstory
  • The story of the Shimotsuki clan
  • The story of Ryuma and his sword Shusui
  • How Kaido took over the country by force
  • The last of the Shimotsuki and their leader die honorably against Kaido defending their country. Those who survived wait for the day to overthrow Kaido.
  • Kaido’s backstory and how he’s a literal beast that everyone fears even the high-ranking marines.
Instead, we got the Kozuki clan, the Oden guy nobody asked for, Zoro at the verge of death and Kaido who doesn’t live up to his title. Zoro chasing a stupid fox or dog whatever it was, because that stupid fox was stealing swords and stole Shusui because it didn’t “belong” to Zoro. I don’t know why this was in the story, this could’ve been avoided and give us chapters on Zoro, King, Ryuma.

Unnecessary forced characters like Yamato (a guy’s name) that shout “I’m Oden” and I’m a man, when it’s clearly a woman. If Yamato was called “Izanami” or “Kaguya” or any other girls name it would’ve been better, not being a blank character, and being a strong woman. The only strong women I know are Hancock, Big Mom and Devon that don’t go out shouting “I’m a guy” and that’s what makes them so unique. The design of “Yamato” is epic, however her character writing is so bad, because the only redeemable qualities she has is her being good to rebel against her father, and to sail the seas.

Honestly Oda has taken the road that Kishimoto did. Why? I don’t know, I could list reasons, but I don’t know if either of them would be valid. The only thing that got me back is because of the latest Joy Boy (was obvious) and that’s the only thing that got me interested.

Naruto went downhill after the fight with Pain. The only thing good that came out later and that lived up to its name and title was Madara Uchiha. This is what I was expecting Oda to do with Kaido and the Beast Pirates. I guess Momo stuffing his face into Nami and Robin’s boobs is more important than focusing on someone like Kaido and the rest.
 
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#4
If it was focused on some crap from Zoro it would be even worse. The character has nothing to show for it. We already know his background. The most I could do was have some flashback of Ryuuma.
Why would it be "crap" if it was focused on Zoro? Nobody found it crap when Sanji's backstory was shown. Zoro's connection to Wano is undeniable. Ryuma is more important than the new characters that were introduced.
I will never get bored with threads bashing Wano. Let it all out, fandom.
I'm not "bashing" Wano. Objectively speaking, the story is bad and could have been way better than it is. I'm a fan of One Piece, but I can't defend something that isn't good and doesn't live up to its hype.
 
#5
I don’t understand of dragging the story of One Piece for so long. This whole Wano arc is a massive disappointment, just like the previous arcs Whole Cake Island, Zou, Dressrosa and Punk Hazard.

Unnecessary characters getting introduced and chapter by chapter we only get events of characters talking to each other and characters fighting and talking mid fight. Zero-character development for Kaido and the Beast Pirates. So much for being “the arc” for Zoro.

King and Queen (my favorite commanders thus far) are bat shit, literally trashed along with Kaido. Kaido and the Beast Pirates don’t live up to their titles thanks to how the story has gone downhill.

It would have been better if this arc was focused on Zoro’s identity and backstory and the Shimotsuki clan instead of the Kozuki clan that was introduced for no reason with their appearance at Punk Hazard. This is how most would’ve preferred it:
  • Zoro’s identity and backstory
  • The story of the Shimotsuki clan
  • The story of Ryuma and his sword Shusui
  • How Kaido took over the country by force
  • The last of the Shimotsuki and their leader die honorably against Kaido defending their country. Those who survived wait for the day to overthrow Kaido.
  • Kaido’s backstory and how he’s a literal beast that everyone fears even the high-ranking marines.
Instead, we got the Kozuki clan, the Oden guy nobody asked for, Zoro at the verge of death and Kaido who doesn’t live up to his title. Zoro chasing a stupid fox or dog whatever it was, because that stupid fox was stealing swords and stole Shusui because it didn’t “belong” to Zoro. I don’t why this was in the story, this could’ve been avoided and give us chapters on Zoro, King, Ryuma.

Unnecessary forced characters like Yamato (a guy’s name) that shout “I’m Oden” and I’m a man, when it’s clearly a woman. If Yamato was called “Izanami” or “Kaguya” or any other girls name it would’ve been better, not being a blank character, and being a strong woman. The only strong women I know are Hancock, Big Mom and Devon that don’t go out shouting “I’m a guy” and that’s what makes them so unique. The design of “Yamato” is epic, however her character writing is so bad, because the only redeemable qualities she has is her being good to rebel against her father, and to sail the seas.

Honestly Oda has taken the road that Kishimoto did. Why? I don’t know, I could list reasons, but I don’t know if either of them would be valid. The only thing that got me back is because of the latest Joy Boy (was obvious) and that’s the only thing that got me interested.

Naruto went downhill after the fight with Pain. The only thing good that came out later and that lived up to its name and title was Madara Uchiha. This is what I was expecting Oda to do with Kaido and the Beast Pirates. I guess Momo stuffing his face into Nami and Robin’s boobs is more important than focusing on someone like Kaido and the rest.
You never expected Wano to focus on the Kozuki? despite hints from Punk Hazard, Dressora and Zou. It almost like you skipped those arcs and now you're suddenly coming to realization that Wano would not revolve around Zoro but rather the local folks...like most arcs in One Piece
 
#9
You never expected Wano to focus on the Kozuki? despite hints from Punk Hazard, Dressora and Zou. It almost like you skipped those arcs and now you're suddenly coming to realization that Wano would not revolve around Zoro but rather the local folks...like most arcs in One Piece
I didn't skip either of those arcs. Honestly way back then I didn't expect the Kozuki to be the focus when they got first introduced in Punk Hazard. What I'm saying is that there was no point at all introducing the Kozuki family. Literally no point. The governing clan of Wano should've been the descendants of Ryuma and not some random clan named Kozuki.
I'm not gonna lie, despite how people hate on WCI or Wano.... I found myself more entertained by those arcs than the Punk Hazard and Dressrosa... Dressrosa especially was one of the most boring arcs for me when I was reading it weakly.... It was waaaay too fucking annoying reading it a chapter per week
Comparing them to Punk Hazard and Dressrosa, yes, they're better, but did they live up to the hype? No. I could go on about Dressrosa and Punk Hazard, but that would be time wasted.
 
#12
I don’t understand of dragging the story of One Piece for so long. This whole Wano arc is a massive disappointment, just like the previous arcs Whole Cake Island, Zou, Dressrosa and Punk Hazard.

Unnecessary characters getting introduced and chapter by chapter we only get events of characters talking to each other and characters fighting and talking mid fight. Zero-character development for Kaido and the Beast Pirates. So much for being “the arc” for Zoro.

King and Queen (my favorite commanders thus far) are bat shit, literally trashed along with Kaido. Kaido and the Beast Pirates don’t live up to their titles thanks to how the story has gone downhill.

It would have been better if this arc was focused on Zoro’s identity and backstory and the Shimotsuki clan instead of the Kozuki clan that was introduced for no reason with their appearance at Punk Hazard. This is how most would’ve preferred it:
  • Zoro’s identity and backstory
  • The story of the Shimotsuki clan
  • The story of Ryuma and his sword Shusui
  • How Kaido took over the country by force
  • The last of the Shimotsuki and their leader die honorably against Kaido defending their country. Those who survived wait for the day to overthrow Kaido.
  • Kaido’s backstory and how he’s a literal beast that everyone fears even the high-ranking marines.
Instead, we got the Kozuki clan, the Oden guy nobody asked for, Zoro at the verge of death and Kaido who doesn’t live up to his title. Zoro chasing a stupid fox or dog whatever it was, because that stupid fox was stealing swords and stole Shusui because it didn’t “belong” to Zoro. I don’t know why this was in the story, this could’ve been avoided and give us chapters on Zoro, King, Ryuma.

Unnecessary forced characters like Yamato (a guy’s name) that shout “I’m Oden” and I’m a man, when it’s clearly a woman. If Yamato was called “Izanami” or “Kaguya” or any other girls name it would’ve been better, not being a blank character, and being a strong woman. The only strong women I know are Hancock, Big Mom and Devon that don’t go out shouting “I’m a guy” and that’s what makes them so unique. The design of “Yamato” is epic, however her character writing is so bad, because the only redeemable qualities she has is her being good to rebel against her father, and to sail the seas.

Honestly Oda has taken the road that Kishimoto did. Why? I don’t know, I could list reasons, but I don’t know if either of them would be valid. The only thing that got me back is because of the latest Joy Boy (was obvious) and that’s the only thing that got me interested.

Naruto went downhill after the fight with Pain. The only thing good that came out later and that lived up to its name and title was Madara Uchiha. This is what I was expecting Oda to do with Kaido and the Beast Pirates. I guess Momo stuffing his face into Nami and Robin’s boobs is more important than focusing on someone like Kaido and the rest.
If you really think that madara is a good character then you will have many problems with one piece lol
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I didn't skip either of those arcs. Honestly way back then I didn't expect the Kozuki to be the focus when they got first introduced in Punk Hazard. What I'm saying is that there was no point at all introducing the Kozuki family. Literally no point. The governing clan of Wano should've been the descendants of Ryuma and not some random clan named Kozuki.

Comparing them to Punk Hazard and Dressrosa, yes, they're better, but did they live up to the hype? No. I could go on about Dressrosa and Punk Hazard, but that would be time wasted.
They are the ones who invented the poniglephs , they invented the sea stones, oden is the one who wrote on the poniglyff on skypiea , you didn’t want to know all of that ? What is the thing that you watch one piece for ?
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If it was focused on some crap from Zoro it would be even worse. The character has nothing to show for it. We already know his background. The most I could do was have some flashback of Ryuuma.
No we need an arc that dives to zoro’s psyche like wci for aanji , and it is coming anyway
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Why would it be "crap" if it was focused on Zoro? Nobody found it crap when Sanji's backstory was shown. Zoro's connection to Wano is undeniable. Ryuma is more important than the new characters that were introduced.

I'm not "bashing" Wano. Objectively speaking, the story is bad and could have been way better than it is. I'm a fan of One Piece, but I can't defend something that isn't good and doesn't live up to its hype.
Wdym by bad , it was great , yes onigashima has some powerlevels issues , but the story of wano is great , why anyone would cool it bad ?
 
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#13
If you really think that madara is a good character then you will have many problems with one piece lol
Off topic but Madara is the best and most powerful anime antagonist. Madara has his flaws because of Kishimotos lazy writing, however those flaws are easily overshadowed.

They are the ones who invented the poniglephs , they invented the sea stones, oden is the one who wrote on the poniglyff on skypiea , you didn’t want to know all of that ? What is the thing that you watch one piece for ?
No it could've been the clan of Ryuma who made the poneglyphs and not the made up Kozuki. A bad decision and writing that Oda made. I started watching One Piece because of the story, just like Naruto, eventually both end up being bad.

No we need an arc that dives to zoro’s psyche like wci for aanji , and it is coming anyway
Why create and waste time on a separate arc when this was the perfect setting for Zoro?

Wdym by bad , it was great , yes onigashima has some powerlevels issues , but the story of wano is great , why anyone would cool it bad ?
I "cool" it bad because it's a fact that it didn't live up to its hype. Many people have pointed out the flaws of Wano, I can go on and list them, Oda easily wasted 4 years writing bad plot after bad plot.
Honestly the scenes are not funny. I don't know but I've been thinking about it for a long time that it has to do something with Japanese mindset that they find it funny. It's repetitive.
 
#17
When kishi told you madara and hashi were beasts, he delivered on it. Madara's intro into the war has to be one of the hypest moments in a battle shounen period. Kaido should have had that presence. Not being a sandbag in dragon form and barely doing shit to the 5 SN. Kaido and BM should have caused way more casualties but nope. Bm was a mistake. Oda likes to circle around the plots points that are interesting and focus on boring things. That must be why post ts arcs are so long. The interesting stuff are always shrouded in mystery. You have to give your villans their moment to shine before they get their asses beat. Not get their asses beat with some shine here and there. Thats the problem with the beast pirates. The lack of tension, danger, despair, death(looking at you kimenon), strategy holds this raid back. Oda should havevread kingdom colition arc.
 
#20
Off topic but Madara is the best and most powerful anime antagonist. Madara has his flaws because of Kishimotos lazy writing, however those flaws are easily overshadowed.


No it could've been the clan of Ryuma who made the poneglyphs and not the made up Kozuki. A bad decision and writing that Oda made. I started watching One Piece because of the story, just like Naruto, eventually both end up being bad.


Why create and waste time on a separate arc when this was the perfect setting for Zoro?


I "cool" it bad because it's a fact that it didn't live up to its hype. Many people have pointed out the flaws of Wano, I can go on and list them, Oda easily wasted 4 years writing bad plot after bad plot.

Honestly the scenes are not funny. I don't know but I've been thinking about it for a long time that it has to do something with Japanese mindset that they find it funny. It's repetitive.
No madara is a badly written character like most of naruto characters, he is not a good character, I don’t care about his strength .

Oda will fit ryuma to the story like how he fitted the kuzoki , we just need to wait , Oda foreshadowed the kuzoki clan logo and the shimotsuki clan logo 18 years ago , of course he have a reason , till we know what is ryuma’s role , you need to shut up and stop being brainless , there is a huge difference in literary quality between op and shitruto
 
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