Controversial Do some people pretend to be "woke" in their One Piece criticism, just for agenda?

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Aye, they did. Not having Sadam around apparently turned out to be a mistake.

What even is this thread bruh

 

[Owl Ki]

Oda doesn't strike me as "bigoted" (or whatever buzzword used currently) , if any he got criticized by the japanese far right a few years ago for making a joke about a soldier from the imperial japanese army in a volume opener.
But he's also a 50 yo japanese man, I always found it weird to judge his writing by the standards of tumblr.
The lack of emphasis on female fighters in One Piece isn't about some deep-rooted hatred of women as inferior beings, it's about old-fashioned chivalry. Sexist by modern standards maybe, but it never bothered me because women are factually weaker than men on average and while One Piece is obvious not a realistic world It's weird to give Oda shit because he doesn't desire to draw women getting beat up by men.
One Piece fanservice is overblown IMO, it mostly boils down to girls wearing skimpy outfits but so the men in the series. The only fanservice stuff I truly found stupid was Rebecca's outfit because the justification didn't make much sense considering how other gladiators were dressed.


Piratefolk just want to shit on anything, they're people that jumped on the One Piece train during covid and are upset because the series isn't like JJK lol

The fact Oda still has some female fighters should be noted. If he was really sexist then he wouldn't have any female fighters at all, the entire character roster would be a sausage fest.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The fact Oda still has some female fighters should be noted. If he was really sexist then he wouldn't have any female fighters at all, the entire character roster would be a sausage fest.

Also it's worth pointing out that One Piece main girls don't revolve around romance. It might sounds trivial nowadays but back then it was common for female characters to exist mainly to give love interests to the male characters.
There might be shippers (like in every fandom), but in the manga itself romance is not an aspect of Nami and Robin characters.
Not to say that their treatment is perfect cause of it ; far from it. But I also think most of the issues apply to male straw hats too.
Just look at post-ts Usppp, he has it way worse IMO.

 

[NicoRobinIsQueen]

Wait, isn’t woke just rainbow people?

 

[soupongo]

One piece is for teenage boys, preteen boys, as per it's genre, so it typically focuses on men, this isn't inherently bad,as media for teenage girls focuses on female characters usually. So yes,some people whine about it too much,but that doesn't mean it can't be criticized if some people feel like female characters deserve a bit more

 

[trav]

Explain what's inherently immoral about an adult dating a minor?

Stop tiptoeing and answer the question.

A "minor" (arbitrary term) is someone who is not older than 17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes 59seconds. Whats so different to someone who is 18 (also a very arbitrary number...) years old?
Do all humans develop equally fast? Physically and mentally?

If you moronically claim that its inherently immoral for someone of 18 years to be romantically involved with someone <18 years then explain why.
Not that I expect a sane explanation anyways.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Stop tiptoeing and answer the question.

A "minor" (arbitrary term) is someone who is not older than 17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes 59seconds. Whats so different to someone who is 18 (also a very arbitrary number...) years old?
Do all humans develop equally fast? Physically and mentally?

If you moronically claim that its inherently immoral for someone of 18 years to be romantically involved with someone <18 years then explain why.
Not that I expect a sane explanation anyways.

I feel like this is a can of worms not worth opening.

Your laws on views on this topic in germany is different. You're gonna be blindly labelled as a pedo lol

 

[ShinichiMugi]

By the way yes it was Pirate Folk! Maybe i overestimated their percentage of representation of the fandom

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

By the way yes it was Pirate Folk! Maybe i overestimated their percentage of representation of the fandom

I was a part of Piratefolk
Goated subreddit to shit on Wano-Kuni

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Some people like to criticize Oda for his sexism,for the fanservice,and the writing of the character of Sanji,saying he liked Pudding who's a minor (for real world laws),etc.

But,at the same time,these same people,often criticize Usopp calling him a "bum" because he is a character who doesnt adhere to the "toxic masculinity" idea of what a male character should be,and often praise characters like Zoro only for physical strenght and not for other qualities.

Is this hypocritical? Do some people act woke,just for their agendas?

Who cares if Oda's a sexist pig?
As long as I get my Gear 6 transformation goddamn it

 

[soupongo]

Usopp hate is overdone at this point and I find it cringe personally, but it can't be denied that Usopp is just fundamentally not important post timeskip, in the same way he was pre time skip.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Usopp hate is overdone at this point and I find it cringe personally, but it can't be denied that Usopp is just fundamentally not important post timeskip, in the same way he was pre time skip.

I hope he will do something big in Elbaph,i expected him to be more involved already,instead so far Elbaph had Luffy,Robin,Zoro,Franky and Nami as more involved Strawhats

 

[haxxor]

Stop tiptoeing and answer the question.

A "minor" (arbitrary term) is someone who is not older than 17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes 59seconds. Whats so different to someone who is 18 (also a very arbitrary number...) years old?
Do all humans develop equally fast? Physically and mentally?

If you moronically claim that its inherently immoral for someone of 18 years to be romantically involved with someone <18 years then explain why.
Not that I expect a sane explanation anyways.

Average Yonko fan