Do you like being forced to take vaccine?

[bennbeckman]

There are studies on both sides. And i don't believe in "anti vaxxer bs" on random social media sites as I have no account on fb, twitter etc.

I believe anyone that says I am going to wait and wait and wait is pedaling an antivaxer narrative.

From your readings are studies from accredited institutions saying, wait another year until we gathered the full data of after effects of covid vaccine and then get your shot?

That is Definitely CAP

https://www.health.harvard.edu/covid-19/covid-19-vaccines

 

[bennbeckman]

Why should i care about someone who doesn't care about others but themselves?

If majority of us got the vaccine to protect ourselves, our family , our friends, coworkers and fellow citizens and you guys don't wanna because you don't care --- why should i care what happens to you if you don't care about me or anyone else for that matter?

You expect the society to give you everything while you don't wanna give the minimum to protect others.

So yeah, you reap what you plant. You don't wanna get vaccinated and help everyone? Okay, then kindly piss off

99% of hospitalizations and deaths currently are people who are not vaccinated. And people wonder why gov't are pressuring people to get the vaccine.

 

[Adam 🍎]

You're speaking a lot in "us, the good guys" vs "them, the bad guys". This is not how things work.
You're calling people egoists and whatnot, pretending that taking this vaccine will save the entire world forever and ever and that no other global problems have been around for a much longer time.

If you can't do the minimum to protect people around you then yes, i will call you a selfish and a bad person.

 

[bennbeckman]

https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccina...ses-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

 

[Adam 🍎]

May I ask you one question: do you use a car? Use plastic? Or all this other stuff that causes global warming, pollution, deforestation of ridiculous levels, mass migrations, genozides etc world wide?

I drive a car but i force myself to use it only when necessary and i opt for walking as much as i can
I use plastic but i recycle every day and every Saturday i carry extra plastic to the recycle center
I also recycle clothes or give them away to Children homes
I also use reusable bags to carry stuff
I also recycle paper

I do my part to make this world a bit better

 

[bennbeckman]

Well, you're not a total environment destructor then.

Gov't should mandate businesses use more ecofriendly products and if they dont fine their asses Millions of Dollars because global warming is real and shits coming up fast.

 

[bennbeckman]

The government as well as businesses profit from environmental destruction.

Maybe, I haven't looked into those numbers

Big Gas companies, Mobil, Exon, etc lobby gov't Millions and Millions of dollars and what happens is they get their way, and when something bad happens instead of Execs going to jail they get slaps on the wrist and fine millions... which is pennies to these big guys.

2nd is these guys (at least in the US) im guessing other countries too pay very very very little in income taxes and funnel their money through offshore accounts via tax loopholes.

The process repeats again and again, because they have the money and power and the people dont. Not enought politicians fight for The People

 

[Adam 🍎]

What do you work?

social worker

 

[bennbeckman]

Exactly this is why there are no large scale government programmes that protect the environment. The vaccine on the other hand, generates profit for big Pharma companies.

Again this is life or death with this vaccine. Pharma companies arent lobbying gov't to let covid keep running rampant.

What oil companies it's not. Oil companies are giving gov't money to not do anything, etc.

 

[bennbeckman]

You are right. Still, I din't think it is ok to force people getting the vaccine

Employers should force people to get vaccinated

While the gov't can't force people to, they should keep pressuring people to get vaccinated.

 

[trav]

Here’s a pro tip for you - don’t do this shit

acting hurt now will not change what I said. nor is it an argument.
put yourself in the other sides shoes.
you decide for yourself that the vaccination is NOT worth it. then the government goes ahead and forces you into taking it. against your will.
how would that make you feel? can you not see who immoral that is?

Nazi comparisons are always thin ice...

not that care lol.
its a comparison of how dehumanization allows the perpetrators to rationalize any action against the dehumanized group.
this is currently happening and it will get worse. its necessary that people become aware of this and reflect on it.


this pandemic will end socially. medically it is already over.

 

[Zolo]

@SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo is this true?


from what ik employers usually help with the labour's medications as well...especially the labour he does.. Its not office work we're talking about. It might be different for other countries but an employer so eager to loose employees does sound rad..from His reaction the vax are really expensive where ever he lives

Its cemetery work. they are required by government if they wanna work in cemetry... But since we still are not directlly under government, our employer was forcing to take it since he is forced himself

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Employers should force people to get vaccinated

While the gov't can't force people to, they should keep pressuring people to get vaccinated.

the most evil thing Ive read in this thread

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I get where this is coming from.. But the analogy is a bit too sensitive..

This is certainly a matter freedom of choice and for them to negate it and then extort money and lable such grueling condition is... anything but the shit we call democracy

@SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo
As someone who can't pay for the vaccines you have a solid reason to request it from the government...i mean they cannot be that callous to ignore unemployed folks who can't pay for em...tyt and think rationally out of it, hope your job back big man.. The employer is retarded to fire you for such a reason, expecting covid to extinguish with vaccines is pure BS.. he hadn't any legitimate reason to kick you out... But he should have at least given you the money for your labour.

I could have any other job too.... but it costs me 30 euros to travel to check, and we need to ckeck every seven days now... government decided on that.... I dont know how the checking for covid or whatever tests they do cost so thats atleast 160 euros at best 200 at worst... getting to work since now I would only be able to in town would cost me another 200 euros... so thats 400 euros.... my wage used to be 380 euros... how much am I left with? paying for electricity ... food.... thank you government for making tests mandatory to any work


believe in what you all want to believe...

but this is tyrrany

 

[Zolo]

You're saying that you are forced to get a test? And as long as it's negative you could still work? Did i understand that correctly?

Tests should not cost money.
In my country the tests are still free. But they want to change this in the near future as a way to make people take the vaccine.

Btw why do you work in a cemetery if you have a degree in biology? Aren't there other jobs that you're more qualified for? You'd have more money left and could afford the testing.

the testing facilities are moved as far away as possible now, and they cost money for unvacced...everything conviently done

 

[Adam 🍎]

I dont wanna cooperate with the rest of society so now i am mad they dont wanna cooperate with me

 

[Zolo]

Ever considered changing your job? What keeps you from it?

Distance... this was Job close to my home... I live near village... there are no Jobs there... nearest city 35kms away... I have no Car and lost my license

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I dont wanna cooperate with the rest of society so now i am mad they dont wanna cooperate with me

I dont want things forced on me... If you are vacced you are safe and I am not, and I choose to not be safe... and everyone who doesnt take vax made this decision

 

[Zolo]

Work online maybe?

work what?

 

[Ballel]

work what?

Idk man, I know nothing about your rl. You gotta find a way yourself

 

[Zolo]

Idk man, I know nothing about your rl. You gotta find a way yourself

I will find a way.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I would hope its not done forcefully and I dont want folks losing jobs
however I do encourage folks to take it
were you aware of the policy where you worked at before this happened ?

them imposing it on people who work there is completely separate from the government imposing such . I think once again freedoms guaranteed by the government and policies for private companies are being misinterpreted. Companies/private businesses are within their right to demand all workers be vaccinated without violating any freedom you enjoy from the government. @SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo

 

[Zolo]

I would hope its not done forcefully and I dont want folks losing jobs
however I do encourage folks to take it
were you aware of the policy where you worked at before this happened ?

them imposing it on people who work there is completely separate from the government imposing such . I think once again freedoms guaranteed by the government and policies for private companies are being misinterpreted. Companies/private businesses are within their right to demand all workers be vaccinated without violating any freedom you enjoy from the government. @SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo

I have no ill will against those that got the vax... I personally dont trust it... If you feel like covid is threat to you maybe get it... But do your own research first ... yellow cards in UK are great to look into of what side effects couild potentially accur

Our government told businesses to mandate vax.