Character Discussion Do you really know how strong is Sanji is?

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Formerly Seth

#24
Hard to tell since all Queen was doing is tanking his moves and not even trying his hardest yet.

It's a similar situation like with frauds scaling Yonko Commanders to fucking Admirals.

Commanders can live thru the fights but in the grand scheme of things in pure bloody 1 vs 1 they are losing its not even question.

being able to fight someone =/= you are on his level.

They result of the fight matters.

We will see how and why Sanji will beat Queen but even then. If he beats Queen he will just reach YC2 level. Nothing crazy.
 
#30
But that's assuming Zoro has Kaido's level of durablity. No character can take on what Kaido did and still live
5 seconds of Hakai + A WIDE OPEN thunder bagua to the FACE >= Togen totsuka + Raizo Borobreath + Red roc + Law stone crash + Punk slam + G4 punch + G4 kong gatling + Killer Sonic + Killer decapitation claw + Rengoku oni giri + Tatsumaki + Asura + Multiple Yamato attacks + Jet culverin + Luffy CoC Punches
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#32
The "even a monster like this would be easy do dismember" is kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda crazy.

Normally a character boasting about "this dude is easy" shouldn't be taken seriously. More often than not, it's purely overconfidence.

But Sanji's moment is a moment of self-reflection. He's not telling Queen "I'm gonna wreck you so hard, I'm gonna pick up your snake body and use it to slap CP0 agents with it".

He's been fighting Queen for some time. Seeing how his attacks weren't working on him. And, in his mind, he was 100% sure he could EASILY crush Queen now with the awakening. That's actually a pretty nutty thing for him to think. And I love it.
If the leaks are right and we get the conclusion next chapter, I can't wait to see how it will look.:funky:
 
#33
5 seconds of Hakai + A WIDE OPEN thunder bagua to the FACE >= Togen totsuka + Raizo Borobreath + Red roc + Law stone crash + Punk slam + G4 punch + G4 kong gatling + Killer Sonic + Killer decapitation claw + Rengoku oni giri + Tatsumaki + Asura + Multiple Yamato attacks + Jet culverin + Luffy CoC Punches
Yeah sure :vistalaugh:
 
#34
Do you realize how powerful Hakai is ? The Blast Was so BIG it would have destroyed ONIGASHIMA WHOLE ,i will give you the percentages :
4 scabbards Togen totsuka = 1% hakai
Borobreath = 1% hakai
ALL of law , killer , Kid attacks = 5% hakai
Asura = 20% hakai
Luffy CoC punches = 9%hakai
all of yamato club attacks = 8% hakai
IT'S OBVIOUS , they won't even reach half of Hakai power level
 
#35
Do you realize how powerful Hakai is ? The Blast Was so BIG it would have destroyed ONIGASHIMA WHOLE ,i will give you the percentages :
4 scabbards Togen totsuka = 1% hakai
Borobreath = 1% hakai
ALL of law , killer , Kid attacks = 5% hakai
Asura = 20% hakai
Luffy CoC punches = 9%hakai
all of yamato club attacks = 8% hakai
IT'S OBVIOUS , they won't even reach half of Hakai power level
That's why I said sure :kata:
Hakai>> all of the attacks combined we've seen in One Piece by far... And you know why it is
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
#37
On a serious note I imagine he is finally good enough to manage to tackle with the likes of Marco but likely not on the same ground until he releases a good enough AP etc.
 
#38
No clue to spell precisely, his Exoskeleton defence is sometimes profoundly overrated. I seriously doubt he will end up weaker than Yamato by the overall time she tags along the crew cause she almost certainly will.
Why is it overrated? He broke a fodder sword with his skin! Zoro, despite being YC1 or low top tier, didn't do that to a fodder scythe.
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
#39
Why is it overrated? He broke a fodder sword with his skin! Zoro, despite being YC1 or low top tier, didn't do that to a fodder scythe.
:seriously:

Killer likely coated his attack. That was also pre Enma training Zoro. Also used a pointy weapon.

Not to mention the point is it's overrated because people started to claim he can tank Asura or the craziest attacks like Hakai.

Tanking a presumably non coated attack like that from Queen is not a massive feat per se.

Zoro himself should be able to do it if he coated himself considering how good his haki is and that Queen's sword is not a great one most likely.

Will see if Sanji can also coat his Exoskeleton however, or what else he can tank other than that but if I had to bet I would yet not place his durability above King's level, possibly below.
 
#40
:seriously:

Killer likely coated his attack. That was also pre Enma training Zoro. Also used a pointy weapon.

Not to mention the point is it's overrated because people started to claim he can tank Asura or the craziest attacks like Hakai.

Tanking a presumably non coated attack like that from Queen is not a massive feat per se.

Zoro himself should be able to do it if he coated himself considering how good his haki is and that Queen's sword is not a great one most likely.

Will see if Sanji can also coat his Exoskeleton however, or what else he can tank other than that but if I had to bet I would yet not place his durability above King's level, possibly below.
1 - Did Queen coat his? Both didn't, or both did with invisible haki. The the comparison stands, unless you decide to cherry pick in order to downplay Sanji. That'd be really dishonest. :kriwhat:

2 - That's merely a conjecture. Prove that Zoro's endurance improved from that training. :seriously:

3 - Anything can be said to be overrated if you choose to pay attention to delusional fans. I've seen Zoro fans state that he's tronger than Kaidou and that he's the strongest in the verse, that pre TS Zoro is stronger than current Sanji... See? Everything about Zoro is overrated following your logic. :seriously::seriously::seriously:

4 - Prove that it being a pointy weapon matters. Zoro was hit in the torso, an area with a natural armor. Where's the natural armor in the skin? :seriously:

5 - Yes, that was a massive feat. Sanji's endurance feat was superior to Zoro's in a similar situation and you're doing your best to downplay Sanji. :seriously:

6 - Zoro COULD be able to do something Sanji did EFFORTLESSLY by using haki. While Sanji didn't despite being able to. Somehow you think this is a great argument to downplay Sanji, when in reality it means he probably surpasses Zoro in ONE SINGLE STAT.:seriously::seriously::seriously:

Yes, it was a great feat. People like you just have a pathological necessity to downplay anything Sanji does.
 
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