General & Others Does HAKI ruin One Piece?
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and the main character should be an engineer franky or BB
Lol I mean in some regards the creativeness he used with some DF's is good, Mr. 3 for example, used his df creatively but he was weak.
I remember or IIRC didn't Oda say that here is no weak DF just users... so there's more to it than that.... but using Haki along with the DF'S... is sort of untapped... I don't think I can put into words What I'm thinking but again using the wax wax df using CoO he could anticipate where his opponent is and make a Giant Helm(A Ship's) and make it spin to counter... or enhance it with CoA....
What do you think... hit or miss or unrelated... hah
I remember or IIRC didn't Oda say that here is no weak DF just users... so there's more to it than that.... but using Haki along with the DF'S... is sort of untapped... I don't think I can put into words What I'm thinking but again using the wax wax df using CoO he could anticipate where his opponent is and make a Giant Helm(A Ship's) and make it spin to counter... or enhance it with CoA....
What do you think... hit or miss or unrelated... hah
When Oda said that "There is no weak DF, just users"
I always had the impression that he's talking about the difference between someone using Rubber fruit, where he only stretches (Like Luffy at his first journey) and Luffy in Enies Lobby, where gear 2nd and 3rd came
And not that it's haki related statement
Same with what Crocodile stated in his battle with Luffy
I always had the impression that he's talking about the difference between someone using Rubber fruit, where he only stretches (Like Luffy at his first journey) and Luffy in Enies Lobby, where gear 2nd and 3rd came
And not that it's haki related statement
Same with what Crocodile stated in his battle with Luffy
I'll admit Oda hasn't done the best job of defining. And visually, the black shading idea is total crap.
But it's a cool way to illustrate a difference between the two halves of One Piece. The first half mostly sets us up to believe that first of all, DF powers are rare to the point of being seen as myths. Then we find that all the big players seem to have powers and that the fights will shake out like rock paper scissors.
Then at the end of the first half, we see that the rock paper scissors stuff is for scrubs. however common the powers really are, that the dominant force is really Haki. Guys like Roger may not even have had DF powers. But without Haki, ambition, you're not going near the top.
But it's a cool way to illustrate a difference between the two halves of One Piece. The first half mostly sets us up to believe that first of all, DF powers are rare to the point of being seen as myths. Then we find that all the big players seem to have powers and that the fights will shake out like rock paper scissors.
Then at the end of the first half, we see that the rock paper scissors stuff is for scrubs. however common the powers really are, that the dominant force is really Haki. Guys like Roger may not even have had DF powers. But without Haki, ambition, you're not going near the top.
Haki was a perfect idea.
What would've really made the manga garbage is characters constantly finding new abilities to conveniently overcome their devil fruit opponents. Haki puts a rest to this.
It also brings in the ability to explain the strength of old legends like Roger without a devil fruit.
:cheers:
If haki existed pre-timeksip and Oda removed it post-timeskip people would complain a lot more than the true opposite.
What would've really made the manga garbage is characters constantly finding new abilities to conveniently overcome their devil fruit opponents. Haki puts a rest to this.
It also brings in the ability to explain the strength of old legends like Roger without a devil fruit.
:cheers:
If haki existed pre-timeksip and Oda removed it post-timeskip people would complain a lot more than the true opposite.
Not it doesn't.
It brings balance in a series that offers more and more ridiculous powers .
So as long more ridiculous powers drop , we should expect Haki growing and being developed in ridiculous ways.
This doesn't mean that execution of Haki vs DF has been great ....I think Oda ideas about DF in a lot moments weight more.
And when the moment of balancing the DF comes with Haki,it arrives and creates ridiculous or funny scenarios.
A point to mention personally...
I think CoO is becoming a huge mistake in the series as the series grow into endgame fights.
It brings balance in a series that offers more and more ridiculous powers .
So as long more ridiculous powers drop , we should expect Haki growing and being developed in ridiculous ways.
This doesn't mean that execution of Haki vs DF has been great ....I think Oda ideas about DF in a lot moments weight more.
And when the moment of balancing the DF comes with Haki,it arrives and creates ridiculous or funny scenarios.
A point to mention personally...
I think CoO is becoming a huge mistake in the series as the series grow into endgame fights.
No haki or something like it was necessary in one. The powers are crazy and early on you need a df match up to face guys. I mean imagine pts smoker being 1 of the strongest characters in op. Without haki he would be since his df has no natural weaknesses and he'd be intangible/unbeatable to anyone. Haki brought:
- a decent power u/power system that the cast can gain instead of the standard physical boost in strength
- provided a way for ever characters to have a even fight if haki is good enough
- gave a reason why characters like garp,rayliegh, shanks, and mihawk could be so strong with having magical df powers.
- a decent power u/power system that the cast can gain instead of the standard physical boost in strength
- provided a way for ever characters to have a even fight if haki is good enough
- gave a reason why characters like garp,rayliegh, shanks, and mihawk could be so strong with having magical df powers.
Haki doesn't ruin One piece, the way Oda uses it sometimes is questionable.
Regular observation and future sight might have been introduced too "early" in the story as it takes away from the sense of danger.
Theres gonna be many more instances in which people will freak out because "Luffy should have been able to dodge or Luffy should have been able to see the future just like Katakuri"
Imagine if Luffy became Katakuri 2.0 last chapter, Apoo would not have been able to hurt Luffy and Zoro that easily. Its also not clear how good is Luffy's future sight vs Katakuri's, is it a case where Luffy can only do it sometimes? or is thers a drastic limit on how many times he can use it per day?etc.... so many things left unexplained.
Regular observation and future sight might have been introduced too "early" in the story as it takes away from the sense of danger.
Theres gonna be many more instances in which people will freak out because "Luffy should have been able to dodge or Luffy should have been able to see the future just like Katakuri"
Imagine if Luffy became Katakuri 2.0 last chapter, Apoo would not have been able to hurt Luffy and Zoro that easily. Its also not clear how good is Luffy's future sight vs Katakuri's, is it a case where Luffy can only do it sometimes? or is thers a drastic limit on how many times he can use it per day?etc.... so many things left unexplained.
