Speculations Does Kaido actually die in Wano?

[HA001]

What's your point with this? Kaido saying he won't leave Wano is no different from every single villain Luffy has defeated saying Luffy won't defeat them.

He won't leave willingly, he'll get his ass kicked and thrown out of Wano.

Which is what yamato said to him turd for brains. And he said so he will come back because its wano. And they wouldn't be able to stop him.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nah you can guess where Oda is going to put Kaido after Luffy beats him after seeing Zoro and Sanjis fight.

Zoro connected to hell - Cuts off Kings wing and sends him falling to “hell” off of onigashima and Wano
Sanji connected to heaven - Kicks Queen flying into the air sending him to the heavens off of onigashima and Wano

Luffy is going to punch Kaido into the seas at the bottom of Wanos waterfall.
- We saw that even devil fruit users can survive at the bottom of the sea despite not being able to move through Jack
- Kaido having the fish fish fruit will likely allow him to breathe underwater but still not be able to move
- Kaido being the dragon that gave up on his aspirations and ended up at the bottom of the waterfall fits with the theme of the koi who became a dragon by climbing the waterfall

 

[SkySanji]

Which is what yamato said to him turd for brains. And he said so he will come back because its wano. And they wouldn't be able to stop him.

He never said he'd come back, he said he wouldn't leave

Oda can easily explain the reason why Kaido is there and have it fulfilled for him to have no reason to be there anymore.

 

[zzShinichi]

Nah you can guess where Oda is going to put Kaido after Luffy beats him after seeing Zoro and Sanjis fight.

Zoro connected to hell - Cuts off Kings wing and sends him falling to “hell” off of onigashima and Wano
Sanji connected to heaven - Kicks Queen flying into the air sending him to the heavens off of onigashima and Wano

Luffy is going to punch Kaido into the seas at the bottom of Wanos waterfall.
- We saw that even devil fruit users can survive at the bottom of the sea despite not being able to move through Jack
- Kaido having the fish fish fruit will likely allow him to breathe underwater but still not be able to move
- Kaido being the dragon that gave up on his aspirations and ended up at the bottom of the waterfall fits with the theme of the koi who became a dragon by climbing the waterfall

How is Sanji even connected to heaven

 

[roronoa_fan]

 

[Sir Yasheen]

How is Sanji even connected to heaven

His mother's name is Sora which means "Heaven" which is who inspired him from his time with Germa.

 

[zzShinichi]

His mother's name is Sora which means "Heaven"

.... Doesn't make sense. Sanji himself doesn't make any reference to heaven, unlike Zoro who literally called out his "Hell" epithet.
Sanji's move set and ephitet is literally the opposite of heaven too "Diablo, BLACK leg"...

 

[HA001]

He never said he'd come back, he said he wouldn't leave

Oda can easily explain the reason why Kaido is there and have it fulfilled for him to have no reason to be there anymore.

Semantics. Yamato outright said she would Drive him out. He says he's not going no where
Luffys not gonna punch him off the island so he won't even be leaving then. Oda can't explain that off in time for luffys win cause this is luffys last attack. Which means kaido has more to come after luffy is done

 

[SkySanji]

Semantics. Yamato outright said she would Drive him out. He says he's not going no where
Luffys not gonna punch him off the island so he won't even be leaving then. Oda can't explain that off in time for luffys win cause this is luffys last attack. Which means kaido has more to come after luffy is done

Again, Kaido saying he's not going anywhere is no different from every villain Luffy defeats saying they won't be defeated by him.

He's not dying and he's probably not being captured, deal with it.

 

[HA001]

Again, Kaido saying he's not going anywhere is no different from every villain Luffy defeats saying they won't be defeated by him.

He's not dying and he's probably not being captured, deal with it.

Lmfao you debunking yourself
If he's not being captured and taken away he's still gonna be on wano
Hes dying no doubt

 

[SkySanji]

Lmfao you debunking yourself
If he's not being captured and taken away he's still gonna be on wano
Hes dying no doubt

He's getting kicked out of Wano, not dying and most likely not being captured.

 

[BlackLegFring]

It’s only a conundrum because of Oda’s unwillingness to kill off characters. Kaido being killed would be ideal, usually by another antagonist since Oda generally doesn’t let protagonists do so.

Regardless, any outcome is better than trying to make Kaido a nakama.

 

[Akagame]

To the people saying he's gonna get kicked out of Wano, what stops him from coming back?

My main prediction is:

- Luffy vs Kaidou. Luffy's strongest attack overpowers Kaidou's strongest attack and also permanently destroys Kaidou's haki. After that, Kaidou still wants to fight and Luffy happily obliges. But at some point, Kaidou's body just give out by itself in the end. Basically, Luffy defeats him and annihilates his threat permanently, but leaves him alive. While Kaidou is the one actually killing himself , destroying his own body by keep fighting.

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While my plan B is ZKK by Zoro's execution after Luffy defeats him.

This is interesting...

Maybe a Nika Nika special ability that destroys his Haki becasue the vibe of the fruit is so "free". That's extremely hax though and kind of removes any threat from any future villain because Luffy can just do the same thing to them.

Nah you can guess where Oda is going to put Kaido after Luffy beats him after seeing Zoro and Sanjis fight.

Zoro connected to hell - Cuts off Kings wing and sends him falling to “hell” off of onigashima and Wano
Sanji connected to heaven - Kicks Queen flying into the air sending him to the heavens off of onigashima and Wano

Luffy is going to punch Kaido into the seas at the bottom of Wanos waterfall.
- We saw that even devil fruit users can survive at the bottom of the sea despite not being able to move through Jack
- Kaido having the fish fish fruit will likely allow him to breathe underwater but still not be able to move
- Kaido being the dragon that gave up on his aspirations and ended up at the bottom of the waterfall fits with the theme of the koi who became a dragon by climbing the waterfall

This is also interesting. Kaido being forever stuck at the bottom of the sea. That's kind of unsatisfying from my POV though, because then we just know that Kaido is down there for the next 300 chapters lol

 

[Ricassian]

Since G5 happened, I don't where Oda is aiming

I really don't know what to expect

 

[Finalbeta]

Neither

He isn't going to die or be captured, he'll continue to be a pirate, he'll just get kicked out of Wano.

But why such a fuss on Kaido's theme for death?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

But why such a fuss on Kaido's theme for death?

To show that not even the Worlds Strongest Creature is strong enough to choose where he dies, which was a big thing for Luffy.

 

[Finalbeta]

To show that not even the Worlds Strongest Creature is strong enough to choose where he dies, which was a big thing for Luffy.

I think there's much more to that. Because you also had several characters who spoke about Kaido's death. The fuss was really high and from a multimyriad of perspectives.

 

[HA001]

Putting kaido underwater would do nothing.
Not only can he likely breathe
But his flame clouds work underwater so he be able to get himself out using them

 

[uyuu]

To the people saying he's gonna get kicked out of Wano, what stops him from coming back?



This is interesting...

Maybe a Nika Nika special ability that destroys his Haki becasue the vibe of the fruit is so "free". That's extremely hax though and kind of removes any threat from any future villain because Luffy can just do the same thing to them.



This is also interesting. Kaido being forever stuck at the bottom of the sea. That's kind of unsatisfying from my POV though, because then we just know that Kaido is down there for the next 300 chapters lol

I think Luffy being able to remove haki (by his ultimate attack tho, not casual) is somewhat fitting since BB can remove a DF ability, so its like the polar opposite of each other. And even if he can remove haki, i dont think it will have significance against Imu, who knows what ability he will possess.

 

[R A I T E I I I]

Smth is for sure teach is not using kaidos fruit for.himself