General & Others Does Kaido derserve death?
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Imagine putting Kidd above Zoro as someone who potentially could kill Kaidou 
Kaido wants to die and yes he deserves it, if he doesn't die at wano, we can be sure that he will make another country his territory, torture the local people and prepare correcly this time for the biggest war he wants by joining BB or BM, that's Kaido.
Unless oda removes Kaido's brain and personality after wano because he doesn't want his characters to die ...
Honestly this aint have nothing to do with zoro. If you think he'll defeat and kill him fine
Kaido wanting a grand death is still a part of his character with or without him. Whether he should get what he wants or not is pretty important to his character.
Him being killed isn't off the table obviously but at the same time its not like it has to happen. Especially with luffy at the lead
Kaido wanting a grand death is still a part of his character with or without him. Whether he should get what he wants or not is pretty important to his character.
Him being killed isn't off the table obviously but at the same time its not like it has to happen. Especially with luffy at the lead
Few ways this can go.
-Oda does not grant Kaido's wish of death. He's a bad guy, after all, why should bad guys get what they want. He is instead wrapped up in Seastone and thrown in Udon as karmic justice for what he did to Wano over the years. This also has the bonus that if Oda needs to use him again after Wano, he can.
-the especially cruel option. He gets his death, but it is an ignominious one. He doesn't get to die gloriously in battle. This would be something like being backstabbed by Big Mom- fitting for all his talk of pirate betrayals- or the resurgent Orochi- what goes around, comes around. Even something like Kine'mon cutting his throat as he lies defeated after battle, but that would be a massive tonal change from Oda
-gets his wish, glorious death. As for ZKK- I see the argument, it has merit, but I can't quite bring myself to argue for it. I cannot see Zoro overshadowing Luffy to such an extent where he's the one who actually kills Kaido. I fully believe that Zoro will wound him, but killing him is a bit too far. I think, if Oda were to go this route, it'll be more like Whitebeard's death, where the accumulated damage he's suffered leads him to sort of die on his feet. Luffy learning internal Haki destruction is very important for this route, because it would answer the question as to why Luffy suddenly killed someone after over a thousand chapters of the opposite. It'll be the destruction caused to Kaido's innards (plus all the other damage) that sees him off.
There's a few other options, like Kaido escaping or Kaido somehow getting a last minute redemption and holding off Blackbeard or someone like that, who actually kills him, but I'd find them to be very unlikely.
I think Oda will go for the third option, where Luffy lands the last punch, collapses, everyone's down, looks like Kaido's won but he's actually died on his feet. That would be the most "epic" way of ending it, and I think that would appeal to Oda the most. Having said that, I could very easily see option two.
-Oda does not grant Kaido's wish of death. He's a bad guy, after all, why should bad guys get what they want. He is instead wrapped up in Seastone and thrown in Udon as karmic justice for what he did to Wano over the years. This also has the bonus that if Oda needs to use him again after Wano, he can.
-the especially cruel option. He gets his death, but it is an ignominious one. He doesn't get to die gloriously in battle. This would be something like being backstabbed by Big Mom- fitting for all his talk of pirate betrayals- or the resurgent Orochi- what goes around, comes around. Even something like Kine'mon cutting his throat as he lies defeated after battle, but that would be a massive tonal change from Oda
-gets his wish, glorious death. As for ZKK- I see the argument, it has merit, but I can't quite bring myself to argue for it. I cannot see Zoro overshadowing Luffy to such an extent where he's the one who actually kills Kaido. I fully believe that Zoro will wound him, but killing him is a bit too far. I think, if Oda were to go this route, it'll be more like Whitebeard's death, where the accumulated damage he's suffered leads him to sort of die on his feet. Luffy learning internal Haki destruction is very important for this route, because it would answer the question as to why Luffy suddenly killed someone after over a thousand chapters of the opposite. It'll be the destruction caused to Kaido's innards (plus all the other damage) that sees him off.
There's a few other options, like Kaido escaping or Kaido somehow getting a last minute redemption and holding off Blackbeard or someone like that, who actually kills him, but I'd find them to be very unlikely.
I think Oda will go for the third option, where Luffy lands the last punch, collapses, everyone's down, looks like Kaido's won but he's actually died on his feet. That would be the most "epic" way of ending it, and I think that would appeal to Oda the most. Having said that, I could very easily see option two.
Believe me, I want it to happen, and Kaido saying to the Scabbards "you guys are cool and all, but if only there was SOMEONE around as strong as my unrequited crush Oden who could kill me" certainly send my fanboy klaxon off, but... still not seeing it as inevitable.
I think the turning point I'm waiting for is, if Kaido does fly off to the Flower Capital- which I very much expect him to- that Zoro is part of a very, very small group that goes after him. That's when I'll start waving flags with ZKK emblazoned on them.
I think the turning point I'm waiting for is, if Kaido does fly off to the Flower Capital- which I very much expect him to- that Zoro is part of a very, very small group that goes after him. That's when I'll start waving flags with ZKK emblazoned on them.
Maybe thats it, maybe luffy kicks his ass on onigashima he gets pissed off in rage and flies off to destroy wano they chase him and finish him off there.
I cant see him being captured after it failed 18 times less so in udon as wano doesnt want him prisoner they clearly want him dead . Theres been a clear emphasis from numerous people not just on killing him, but specifically cutting his head off.
I cant see him being captured after it failed 18 times less so in udon as wano doesnt want him prisoner they clearly want him dead . Theres been a clear emphasis from numerous people not just on killing him, but specifically cutting his head off.
I mean if Kaido want to die then go for it
He's been waiting for a long time for someone strong enough to kill him.
He's been waiting for a long time for someone strong enough to kill him.
So after a regular process he would still get a death penalty.
But if it was for Akainu, there would be no regular process of course. :P