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Does Venus have a Kokuto?

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Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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#1
In the past, Venus almost always had Shodai Kitetsu sheathed whenever we saw him, but there was one panel iirc from pre-TS where he was shown polishing his sword in the background. This obviously suggested that his sword wasn’t a black blade, but it’s worth noting that it wasn’t until a few hundred chapters after pre-TS that Oda actually established black blades as being the pinnacle of swordsmanship. So it’s possible that Oda hadn’t really planned out for black blades to be a huge deal when he was drawing Venus’s sword unsheathed that one time. Heck, Oda clearly didn’t have basic black Hardening planned out back then since we never saw it at all pre-TS.

In this chapter, we just see the Shodai Kitetsu being drawn black without any sparks at all (Oda usually draws at least a little bit of sparks whenever Zoro hardens his swords). We never saw the sword transition from looking normal to being hardened. Any casual reader of One Piece isn’t gonna remember seeing Venus’s sword unsheathed in the background one time from over 500 chapters ago, before we even knew black blades were important, so for almost anyone who isn’t an obsessive OP powerscaler, this is gonna be their first time properly recognizing the Shodai Kitetsu unsheathed. Since Oda didn’t draw the sword transitioning from being normal to being hardened, its appearance in this chapter will definitely make many people assume it’s a Kokuto.
 
ZoroFan23

ZoroFan23

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#2
#2
I think it'd be cool since he's obviously a Zoro opponent, would be great to see Zoro get pushed to forge his first black blade in a fight against him.

Anyway, if he does have a black blade it'd be a retcon since every time we saw that sword it didn't seem like a black sword. I'm open to going with the flow on this one.
 
Toryu

Toryu

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#13
#13
Shiroyru said:
Venus polishing his sword in the background in one panel pre-TS is such a minor detail that it really wouldn’t be shocking at all if Oda retconned it
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Oda wouldn't do such blatant ret-con.

He likes to recontextualize things a lot like with Nika, but not outright retcon shamelessly.

hard to believe it's a Kokuto without solid confirmation
 
Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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#14
#14
Toryu said:
Oda wouldn't do such blatant ret-con.

He likes to recontextualize things a lot like with Nika, but not outright retcon shamelessly.

hard to believe it's a Kokuto without solid confirmation
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Toryu said:
Oda wouldn't do such blatant ret-con.

He likes to recontextualize things a lot like with Nika, but not outright retcon shamelessly.

hard to believe it's a Kokuto without solid confirmation
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He retconned black Hardening into existence
 
Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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#16
#16
GrandmasterChef Zonji said:
Thats not one panel with minor detail
we got Two with a close up
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Remember this is way before we had any clue that black blades were important at all. One panel of Venus polishing his unsheathed sword in the background and one extremely close up panel with only like 10% of the sword in frame isn’t gonna be remembered by anyone except obsessive powerscalers who scavenge through the manga to win an argument
 
GrandmasterChef Zonji

GrandmasterChef Zonji

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#17
#17
Shiroyru said:
Remember this is way before we had any clue that black blades were important at all. One panel of Venus polishing his unsheathed sword in the background and one extremely close up panel with only like 10% of the sword in frame isn’t gonna be remembered by anyone except obsessive powerscalers who scavenge through the manga to win an argument
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Fair enough, we just need next chapter anyway to confirm it
 
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