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Does Venus have a Kokuto?

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zenox

zenox

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#21
#21
We had chapter 51 to show mihawk’s blackblade
Which shows that they are some important relics
U clowns are so desperate to

First it was greenbul , now venusjuro

we have seen Venus literally look at his blade and see his own reflection

and bb’s are alrdy very important till that came out
So no he doesn’t have a blackblade
It’s literally simple hardening which zoro keeps showing post timeskip
 
GrandmasterChef Zonji

GrandmasterChef Zonji

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#24
#24
Shiroyru said:
Venus is almost guaranteed to be Zoro’s final opponent (it would make 0 sense for Zoro to be fighting Mihawk while the rest of the crew is fighting for their lives to save the world from the WG, and Shiryu is a bum), so it would honestly be weird for Venus to not have a Kokuto
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Welp that depends on how Oda making Luffy a Pirate King, Even if Luffy is already a Pirate King, Zoro can still be a RHM VC or Master Swordsman of SHP and not WSS or WGS. Also Remember Roger is called the Pirate King after he went to Laughtale. So There is multiple scenario :

1. For EOS V Nas : The Race to claim One Piece start before fighting WG -> Battle Royal happenin between Yonko -> Luffy became Pirate King defeating all yonko -> Zoro defeat Mihawk and become the WSS or WGS -> Defeat WG all together and crushing Red Line

2. For EOS Mihawk : Luffy hasn't yet to become a Pirate King Because they fight WG first -> Zoro isn't the WSS or WGS because he didn't defeat Mihawk yet -> After WG gets defeated, the race toward One Piece start and in the way we had a battle royal in all four Yonko -> Luffy defeat all the competitor and become King of the Pirates and Zoro defeat Mihawk and become WSS or WGS
 
ArturCantSpeakJapanese

ArturCantSpeakJapanese

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#25
#25
Shiroyru said:
In the past, Venus almost always had Shodai Kitetsu sheathed whenever we saw him, but there was one panel iirc from pre-TS where he was shown polishing his sword in the background. This obviously suggested that his sword wasn’t a black blade, but it’s worth noting that it wasn’t until a few hundred chapters after pre-TS that Oda actually established black blades as being the pinnacle of swordsmanship. So it’s possible that Oda hadn’t really planned out for black blades to be a huge deal when he was drawing Venus’s sword unsheathed that one time. Heck, Oda clearly didn’t have basic black Hardening planned out back then since we never saw it at all pre-TS.

In this chapter, we just see the Shodai Kitetsu being drawn black without any sparks at all (Oda usually draws at least a little bit of sparks whenever Zoro hardens his swords). We never saw the sword transition from looking normal to being hardened. Any casual reader of One Piece isn’t gonna remember seeing Venus’s sword unsheathed in the background one time from over 500 chapters ago, before we even knew black blades were important, so for almost anyone who isn’t an obsessive OP powerscaler, this is gonna be their first time properly recognizing the Shodai Kitetsu unsheathed. Since Oda didn’t draw the sword transitioning from being normal to being hardened, its appearance in this chapter will definitely make many people assume it’s a Kokuto.
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no. its already a supreme grade sword, the equal of Yoru or Murakumogiri. Why does it need to be a black blade too? You can see his face reflect off of it.
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Shiroyru said:
Remember this is way before we had any clue that black blades were important at all. One panel of Venus polishing his unsheathed sword in the background and one extremely close up panel with only like 10% of the sword in frame isn’t gonna be remembered by anyone except obsessive powerscalers who scavenge through the manga to win an argument
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obsessive powerscalers are the only people who care about whether something is a black blade or not. you dont even know what a black blade means or what makes them or what they're for
 
Malick the last Light

Malick the last Light

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#26
#26
I am open to the idea. Nusjuro is likely upwards of 800 years old. Him forging a black blade in that time is not crazy to me if he is even vaguely able to be called a Top Tier swordsman. Shanks oculd probably black his blade in like 700 years too if he was given enough time.
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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#27
#27
Black Blades aren't Pinnacle of Swordsmanship.
Nusjuro doesn't have a Black Blade.
Nusjuro isn't Zoro's Final Opponent.
Post-TS isn't a Different Manga than Pre-TS.

World Government aren't Final Villains, nor are They Strongest Nation/Faction
They couldn't Invade/Stop a Single Island with Pacifista, Seraphim, Super Mega Buster Call, Admiral, Five Elders, CP-0, York
And you tell me They Rule The World?

A Single Giant Group didn't care & you think entire Elbaf Kingdoms gonna be "Oh No, WG gonna Kill us if We misbehave"?
Mihawk was Introduced long before We even learned there is a World Government, and currently They showed like 90% of what They are Capable of while Mihawk barely done anything, so it's obvious who's Reserved to Fall Last

Your real question on who's Final Villain should be "Who's Mihawk's Boss/Inspirational Figure?"
You will say He was Introduced without a Leader, how did you know? Who said his Boss must be a Crew Captain?

The Guy is clearly Religious, who do you think He worships?
Final Villain is simply who Mihawk Worships

You think it's coincidence that O-Tama Controlled Smile Army & Bonney Controlled Pacifista?
You should realize that Poseidon was also the Same, meaning She was able to take Control of Main Villain's Army
So "Sea Kings" are Special Army of Story's Main Villain

If the Army are called "Kings", that means Final Boss is "Sea God"
And He was mentioned multiple times in Story, and it's not Imu who doesn't even come close to Enel's Portrayal of a God, let alone Final Villain
Also Mihawk doesn't Follow Imu, otherwise He would be Pro-WG, not Anti

Final Villain is OPVerse God, Mihawk is his Champion
Blackbeard is Devil of OPVerse, basically Main Secondary Villain
Marines & WG on other hand gonna Fall before these Three
 
style

style

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#30
#30
Shiroyru said:
In the past, Venus almost always had Shodai Kitetsu sheathed whenever we saw him, but there was one panel iirc from pre-TS where he was shown polishing his sword in the background. This obviously suggested that his sword wasn’t a black blade, but it’s worth noting that it wasn’t until a few hundred chapters after pre-TS that Oda actually established black blades as being the pinnacle of swordsmanship. So it’s possible that Oda hadn’t really planned out for black blades to be a huge deal when he was drawing Venus’s sword unsheathed that one time. Heck, Oda clearly didn’t have basic black Hardening planned out back then since we never saw it at all pre-TS.

In this chapter, we just see the Shodai Kitetsu being drawn black without any sparks at all (Oda usually draws at least a little bit of sparks whenever Zoro hardens his swords). We never saw the sword transition from looking normal to being hardened. Any casual reader of One Piece isn’t gonna remember seeing Venus’s sword unsheathed in the background one time from over 500 chapters ago, before we even knew black blades were important, so for almost anyone who isn’t an obsessive OP powerscaler, this is gonna be their first time properly recognizing the Shodai Kitetsu unsheathed. Since Oda didn’t draw the sword transitioning from being normal to being hardened, its appearance in this chapter will definitely make many people assume it’s a Kokuto.
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why do you want it to be a black blade? Is there any agenda involved here?
 
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