General & Others Dragon not going makes no sense.

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#3
Dragon is the leader of a world wide organization at this point. Him personally going is jeopardizing not only his own life but the rest of his subordinates. And i do not think Kuma alone could make it. As an unfeeling robot, it was a difficult trip to the top of Mary Geose and the only thing waiting for him was Akainu.

Best they could've done is another inside Reverie job, but who knows if Reverie was close to happening.
 
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Dragon is the leader of a world wide organization at this point. Him personally going is jeopardizing not only his own life but the rest of his subordinates. And i do not think Kuma alone could make it. As an unfeeling robot, it was a difficult trip to the top of Mary Geose and the only thing waiting for him was Akainu.

Best they could've done is another inside Reverie job, but who knows if Reverie was close to happening.
This doesn't sound like Tac. Did Tac lose his password again and now Natalija has logged in for him?
 
#6
but who knows if Reverie was close to happening.
The reverie happens once every 4 years, and its an event that only takes a few days/weeks at most, not all year-round.

Ginny was captured 14 years ago, and since the latest Reverie happened in the present year, then the closest Reveries next to her capture were 16 years ago and 12 years ago.

Therefore, Reverie excuse doesn't work here. She was captured on a year where it didn't happen.
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#7
What Fisher Tiger did was akin to Luffy sneaking into Impel Down. He went in and started freeing the slaves, which caused chaos and confusion, and was able to get out amongst it all, with some slaves also being able to escape as well. Fisher Tiger didn't just go in there as one man, and fight everyone at the same time. Those slaves fought their way to freedom, and remember, tons of those slaves were force fed devil fruits as entertainment for the Celestial Dragons. They weren't weak.
 
#8
Guys, this is a fictional story. It is not real. Stop trying to inject real life scenarios into a fictional story. So Sasuke according to yall should have never invaded the five kage summit. Killua and Gon should have never tried to tailgate the Spiders. Luffy should have never went to Impel down or Ennies Lobby. Like guys, as a writer, you need to make your story interesting. Stop making excuses. Dragon looks awful. This is just lazy writing as usual by Oda because he didn't want to do his homework so instead he just made Dragon have a reaction face.
 
#9
Guys, this is a fictional story. It is not real. Stop trying to inject real life scenarios into a fictional story. So Sasuke according to yall should have never invaded the five kage summit. Killua and Gon should have never tried to tailgate the Spiders. Luffy should have never went to Impel down or Ennies Lobby. Like guys, as a writer, you need to make your story interesting. Stop making excuses. Dragon looks awful. This is just lazy writing as usual by Oda because he didn't want to do his homework so instead he just made Dragon have a reaction face.
It can be written however the hell the author wants it to be written. If they want situations more akin to how real life would play out, then they can write it that way. It's their story.

Quite being so damn entitled all the time and thinking that how YOU want things to play out is the correct way, and since it doesn't live up to your fictional stereotype, then it must be some kind of lazy writing.
 
#11
Issue is that revos never tried for a rescue mission. Them failing is fine. It could also be a situation where they did reach ginny but she was caught in fire and was presumed dead by revos only for them to know after 2 years that she was still alive.

Oda could have written it better.
 
#12
I am telling you the way he wrote it was shit and your excuse defending his writing is shit. Not that Oda can't write it they way he wants it. Like dude, learn to read.
And I am telling you it is not shit, and it makes you an entitled child, because you think that something that is written in a way that goes against your fictional stereotype, is shit.

All writers should just write everything the same way, because this is fiction, and it better be in the way Lee33 enjoys reading, because if it isn't, then it's shit.

Straight nonsense.....
 
#13
And I am telling you it is not shit, and it makes you an entitled child, because you think that something that is written in a way that goes against your fictional stereotype, is shit.

All writers should just write everything the same way, because this is fiction, and it better be in the way Lee33 enjoys reading, because if it isn't, then it's shit.

Straight nonsense.....
Yea, Sasuke should have never invaded the Kage Summit. Killua and Gon should have never trailed the Spiders. Luffy should have never went to Impel Down and Ennies lobby according to you.

Man, you are the Arthur of Ohara of worstgen. I respect your dedication to riding on Oda though. Cheers mate.
 
#14
Yea, Sasuke should have never invaded the Kage Summit. Killua and Gon should have never trailed the Spiders. Luffy should have never went to Impel Down and Ennies lobby according to you.

Man, you are the Arthur of Ohara of worstgen. I respect your dedication to riding on Oda though. Cheers mate.
How stupid can you seriously be? Those situations are 1 in a million. 99.99999 percent of the time, they would end in utter failure.

Your ignorant thought process is, "because it has happened, then it should always happen."

You'll be the first person to talk about how much bullshit writing it is for Luffy and the gang to escape WCI the way they did, and then you'll seriously turn around and say how bullshit it is that Dragon didnt invade Mariejois to save Ginny, and then use the excuse "these characters did, so Oda could have wrote Dragon doing it as well."

Your dedication to bashing Oda is truly something to behold. Filled with nothing but hypocrisy and entitlement.
 
#15
Yeah it does make Dragon look bad and he should have done something but Dragon isn't important for Oda in this flashback. He wants to make us feel for Kuma as much as he can so Dragon not going actually makes sense if you consider that factor.
It's the same reason why WB tried to save Ace but didn't do anything to avenge Oden vs Kaido when he was hyped to kill anybody that would hurt his comrades.
 
#18
It's a fictional story dude. It's not real lmao.
I like how you ignored my other point though.

Tell me.

How is it shit writing for Luffy to do what he did and escape WCI.

But it's also shit writing that Dragon didn't go and do the same exact thing on Mariejois?

The funny part is, is if Oda did write it that way, you'd be the first person making the thread "The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are clowns." and it would be you talking about how it's shit writing that the most fortified and guarded place in the World was so easily invaded... Etc... Etc..

It's is fiction, and you take it way too seriously. Instead of just going with the flow of how things are written, you want to nitpick and make the rules of what is good writing, and what is bad writing, based off how you can maximize bashing the author.

If your criticism was consistent, you'd wouldn't get have the pushback that you do when you make threads, but everyone can see through your intentions a mile away. You're not criticizing the actual story. You're just stuck in some Naruto/One Piece fan war that ended ages ago when Naruto concluded, but you just won't let it go.
 
#19
I like how you ignored my other point though.

Tell me.

How is it shit writing for Luffy to do what he did and escape WCI.

But it's also shit writing that Dragon didn't go and do the same exact thing on Mariejois?

The funny part is, is if Oda did write it that way, you'd be the first person making the thread "The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are clowns." and it would be you talking about how it's shit writing that the most fortified and guarded place in the World was so easily invaded... Etc... Etc..

It's is fiction, and you take it way too seriously. Instead of just going with the flow of how things are written, you want to nitpick and make the rules of what is good writing, and what is bad writing, based off how you can maximize bashing the author.

If your criticism was consistent, you'd wouldn't get have the pushback that you do when you make threads, but everyone can see through your intentions a mile away. You're not criticizing the actual story. You're just stuck in some Naruto/One Piece fan war that ended ages ago when Naruto concluded, but you just won't let it go.
It is okay for Dragon/Revos to fail dude. Dragon and Revos going to save Ginney doesn't mean the Holy Knights or Gorosei should look bad. Why is that so hard for you to understand? A writer can make two opposite factions look good. Talented authors don't need to sacrifice one faction in order to make another faction look good. Oda isn't talented so he has no way of making both side look good so he always needs a character or faction to be used as a hype tool for the other character/faction.
 
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#20
Ivankov, one of the founding members, and Inazuma, who was seen teaching Sabo, were imprisoned in Impel Down, and Dragon did nothing. Basically, someone as weak as Luffy managed to free them; Dragon isn't even intelligent. He didn't try to take advantage of the war between Whitebeard and the Marine Headquarters to go to Impel Down and free his comrades.

And now, a mere fish invades the sacred land and sets fire to Imu-sama's house, even with 5 Goroseis at PK-TIER level and Imu at god level. A fish set Imu's house on fire, freed several slaves, and got away with it. LOL.
 
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