Speculations Egghead but with Ryokugyu instead of Kizaru

[Fujishiro]

Yep, and it’s probably the nutrients he has in store

Luffy also wouldnt need to go G5 instantly for example to keep up. G5 was the only thing that allowed him to keep up with Kizarus speed.

Like I said matchups matter a lot.

I agree with the speed thing but in compare Greenbull has something else what could make Luffy bring lot of trouble:

AoE and the most important thing: Health power.

Pretty sure Greenbull could stall long enough to the point where Luffy lose the first round when G5 runs out.


Aramaki is also tricky and skilled, it would take lot of time for Luffy to beat him.

Also like Kizaru, Aramaki is probably awakened too and would use it against Luffy.

And if Kizaru can endure one entire round of G4+G5 without awakening, I have no doubt Aramaki could do the same.

And yes the reason why Oda decide to bring Kizaru this arc is also his struggle with his emotions to give the strawhats better chances.

Things would be different if Aramaki was around Saturn since he is more ruthless, Vega would be dead from now on.

I dont think Luffy would need G5 against GB as much as he needed it against Kizaru.

Luffy has trouble landing hits on Kizaru so he didnt even bother using ACoC most of the fight as well.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Lee and some people here dont seem to understand that the main issue Luffy had with Kizaru was his speed.

Nani??? Are you serious??? The big issue that Luffy had with the light speed Admiral was his speed??? How can this be?????

 

[Fujishiro]

Nani??? Are you serious??? The big issue that Luffy had with the light speed Admiral was his speed??? How can this be?????

, sometimes I hate you lmao.

Only sometimes.

 

[SkySanji]

Giving Ryokugyu the benefit of the doubt, he dies to G4 Luffy.

 

[Cruxroux]

Giving Ryokugyu the benefit of the doubt, he dies to G4 Luffy.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

They'd be throwing his funeral right after.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

, sometimes I hate you lmao.

Only sometimes.

Your post was really vague but I’ll entertain it lol.

So yeah, every fighter has attributes where they excel, for Kizaru this is speed. So naturally it is this speed that would give Luffy an issue. For Ryokugyu this is either durability or draining hax, or even forest regrowth, so Luffy’s struggle would revolve around these stats instead of speed.

Should be a pretty uncontroversial idea that different Admirals excel in different areas of combat, like any other fighter lol.

 

[Fujishiro]

Your post was really vague but I’ll entertain it lol.

So yeah, every fighter has attributes where they excel, for Kizaru this is speed. So naturally it is this speed that would give Luffy an issue. For Ryokugyu this is either durability or draining hax, or even forest regrowth, so Luffy’s struggle would revolve around these stats instead of speed.

Should be a pretty uncontroversial idea that different Admirals excel in different areas of combat, like any other fighter lol.

My point was that Luffy would have an easier time fighting Greenbull than Kizaru. He needed G5 to keep up with Kizarus speed whereas against Greenbull he can be more conservative about his G5 usage and rely on G4 ACoC,,etc.

For me matchups matter and when it comes to a certain level where fighters are realtive to each other even more so. Its not so simple as A beat C therefore B beats C.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I think Luffy beats Aramaki mid diff obviously but I genuinely wonder, does the "Haki resists DF effects" apply to Aramaki sucking nutrients out of you?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

My point was that Luffy would have an easier time fighting Greenbull than Kizaru. He needed G5 to keep up with Kizarus speed whereas against Greenbull he can be more conservative about his G5 usage and rely on G4 ACoC,,etc.

For me matchups matter and when it comes to a certain level where fighters are realtive to each other even more so. Its not so simple as A beat C therefore B beats C.

Sure. My point is that against Ryokugyu, Luffy’s struggle would be in a different area. Overall the difficulty of each fight is probably the same. Or at least quite similar.

 

[Fujishiro]

Sure. My point is that against Ryokugyu, Luffy’s struggle would be in a different area. Overall the difficulty of each fight is probably the same. Or at least quite similar.

Maybe so, he will struggle in a different way given that I have Greenbull as more durable and endurant then Kizaru. With his AOE and regen it should give Luffy quite the fight even thought he would last way longer since he wont have to spam G5 as much.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Maybe so, he will struggle in a different way given that I have Greenbull as more durable and endurant then Kizaru.

Why though?

 

[SakazOuki]

Not sure about that, keeping up with Kizarus speed is what exhausted Luffy to the point where he couldnt move. I dont think Greenbull is as fast as Kizaru.

for me matchups matter.

Ryokugyu might pose an even bigger problem, his endurance is off the charts with that devil fruit
Bajrang gun would be troublesome, but in doing so Luffy would be causing more damage to his crew than the navy, so I’ll take that out of the equation

 

[Fujishiro]

Why though?

Because of his theme, how he no sold Yamatos ACoC attack to the head. How he was able to regen back up from getting torched even though its supposed to be his weakness so Im assuming even Haki will have a harder time stopping his regen.

Ryokugyu might pose an even bigger problem, his endurance is off the charts with that devil fruit
Bajrang gun would be troublesome, but in doing so Luffy would be causing more damage to his crew than the navy, so I’ll take that out of the equation

Yeah of course, because it would be an endurance fight Luffy would likely have to rely on his lower gears + ACoC to fight until he sees an opening or Greenbulls endurance whittles down. It would be a battle of attrition.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Because of his theme, how he no sold Yamatos ACoC attack to the head. How he was able to regen back up from getting torched even though its supposed to be his weakness so Im assuming even Haki will have a harder time stopping his regen.

Yeah true that, but Yamato's attack just seemed like a basic ACoC club strike, I don't know if it's much to brag about especially as he still got a headache from it and started sweating.
But he didn't seem to bleed from it, so it's still a good feat.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Maybe so, he will struggle in a different way given that I have Greenbull as more durable and endurant then Kizaru. With his AOE and regen it should give Luffy quite the fight even thought he would last way longer since he wont have to spam G5 as much.

Idk man, I think Luffy would need Gear 5 against Ryokugyu’s flexing muscle forest. That form ragdolled dragon Momo, Ryokugyu has crazy brute strength in that form. Not sure Bound Man can keep up.

And Ryokugyu can also spam dozens of roots from underground. Luffy might tire out just trying to avoid/react to those attacks.

 

[Fujishiro]

Idk man, I think Luffy would need Gear 5 against Ryokugyu’s flexing muscle forest. That form ragdolled dragon Momo, Ryokugyu has crazy brute strength in that form.

Luffy was ragdolling Dragon Kaido prior to Udon in base form lmao. And then he trained his base stats and his haki and he now has ACoC. All of that is a huge AP and strenght boost.

Not sure Bound Man can keep up.

It for sure can bro.

And Ryokugyu can also spam dozens of roots from underground. Luffy might tire out just trying to avoid/react to those attacks.

With Ryou those roots might not even touch him, of course Haki isnt infinite hence why I said it would be a battle of attrition.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Luffy was ragdolling Dragon Kaido prior to Udon in base form lmao.

Do you mean Gear 3? That’s not base lmfao.

But Gear 3 didn’t really ragdoll Kaido, it just knocked his head around a bit. Ryokugyu cracked dragon Momo like a whip lol, literally one of the most massive strength feats in the series and only comparable to Gear 5 spinning Dragon Kaido around.

 

[Konstantis]

he is weak lol

 

[Fujishiro]

Do you mean Gear 3? That’s not base lmfao.

But Gear 3 didn’t really ragdoll Kaido, it just knocked his head around a bit. Ryokugyu cracked dragon Momo like a whip lol, literally one of the most massive strength feats in the series and only comparable to Gear 5 spinning Dragon Kaido around.

Oh yeah it was Gear 3, it sent him flying. Anyways my point is that if he could do it back then, with his massive stat and haki increase he can do way more now.

Agree that Greenbull was impressive against Momonosuke.