Powers & Abilities Enma haki belong to ODEN

#22
The sword sucking all of zoro haki in that scene doesn’t mean much really...it’s still can store it’s user haki in addition to its original owner aka oden.

the way I see it though is that it’s purely the haki of the original owner...the user must just tame it...you know taming a tiger doesn’t make you as strong as a tiger , does it ?
 
#29
I actually don't know who Artur is. Is Japanese their first language? Or are they a Japanese professor that could also be a trusted source? Are they hired for manga translations and take into account grammar, syntax, cultural context, etc?

I am 100% appreciative of fan translations, but there is always a chance of biases. Sometimes fan translators may want to change lines to make their favorite characters sound better.
 
#34
Oden's shitty ass haki would just make Zoro weaker.
I mean if Enma has it own abilities, that more on sword, not the one who wield it. It would make Zoro lazy if he just due to one sword and not his skill, so thought it was obvious as even in the fight, he use Enma more, but didn't try to his other swords meaning Enma has it own abilities to why it was there, not by Zoro's skill without Enma could harm Kaido. Yonkos even talk about sword being it's own thing too, so more evidence on that.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#35
I mean if Enma has it own abilities, that more on sword, not the one who wield it. It would make Zoro lazy if he just due to one sword and not his skill, so thought it was obvious as even in the fight, he use Enma more, but didn't try to his other swords meaning Enma has it own abilities to why it was there, not by Zoro's skill without Enma could harm Kaido. Yonkos even talk about sword being it's own thing too, so more evidence on that.
You mean Enma the presumable tool
Zoro whilst attempting to tame Enma said: "Give it back to me" obviously referring to his general energy and also haki after his arm had shrunk in size. However I believe it's extensively unlikely that Enma is capable to permanently store these even if the user wished to, and eventually the energy would be converted to another form, and regardless Oden's arms were normal before he died.

Kaido talks about presence, not even haki, and swords are living objects canonically, eventually Enma simply stored his memories, but that has to be proven later on.

Also I believe that the black blade is decidedly not about storing haki in the sword, but eventually render it particularly hard without storing it, since Zoro failed to cut up Monet.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#39
Enma probably remains nothing but a training tool:

Zoro whilst attempting to tame Enma said: "Give it back to me" obviously referring to his general energy and also haki after his arm had shrunk in size. However I believe it's extensively unlikely that Enma is capable to permanently store these even if the user wished to, and eventually the energy would be converted to another form, and regardless Oden's arms were normal before he died.

Kaido talks about presence, not even haki, and swords are living objects canonically, eventually Enma simply stored his memories, but that has to be proven later on.

Also I believe that the black blade is decidedly not about storing haki in the sword, but eventually render it particularly hard without storing it, since Zoro failed to cut up Monet.
 
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