Controversial Enma is "not the king of hell"

[ChefboiiFuego]

The Anime taking liberties that they shouldn't, what's new.. You were waiting for the Anime all this this time to prove nothing? You should know better.. Even the glowing Green doesn't look as portrayed in the Manga..

Damn Brook's soul going to look like light Saber next time can't wait..

So Zoro dont got adv coc?

 

[Lor D. Coast]

The Anime taking liberties that they shouldn't, what's new.. You were waiting for the Anime all this this time to prove nothing? You should know better.. Even the glowing Green doesn't look as portrayed in the Manga..

Damn Brook's soul going to look like light Saber next time can't wait..

Blud goes from Zoro's haki to rambling about Brook's soul being a light saber, are you ok bro?

 

[Rootbeer]

1 Here is the enma mode (purple haki) in this mode, Zoro regulates how much haki will give enma (will allow you to suck). It was this mode that was used on the roof. in it, haki Zoro is only on enme and there is no acoc.

2 King hell mode. In this mode, Zoro INDEPENDENTLY pours all his haki into all three blades, regardless of enma. color haki green+acoc.
Reminder

Enma Mode and King of Hell mode is the same thing.. There's no ''Enma Mode '' when Enma is unstable.. Common sense out the window..

Modes activate attributes to other blades, same as Ashura creating other versions of Wado and Yubashiri or Shusui..

 

[CbShadow]

I guess this needs to be said.

KoH is just the name Zoro call techniques that uses hell flame, overwhelming CoA haki or whatever it is combined CoC.

Zoro doesn't need to use enma to use KoH since enma has zero effect on his other swords.

 

[Rootbeer]

I guess this needs to be said.

KoH is just the name Zoro call techniques that uses hell flame, overwhelming CoA haki or whatever it is combined CoC.

Zoro doesn't need to use enma to use KoH since enma has zero effect on his other swords.

He does need to use Enma to use KoH, just like he needs to use Sandai Kitetsu to use Ashura..

 

[CbShadow]

He does need to use Enma to use KoH, just like he needs to use Sandai Kitetsu to use Ashura..

Wrong, but keep reading Two Piece.

 

[Rootbeer]

Wrong, but keep reading Two Piece.

Just saying wrong is not an argument.. Everything starts from Enma, just like Ashura starts from Kitetsu.. Basic concept..

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

KoH is just the name Zoro call techniques that uses hell flame, overwhelming CoA haki or whatever it is combined CoC.

KOH = Hell Flame + All Out Haki .

This would explain a lot of things :

> For Hell Flame :
It seems consistent because Zoro claimed to be the King of Hell so he has to have the Hell flame especially with Usopp's lies turning out to be true each time , and what's funny is this flame is really strong even against magma like flames they showed a clear superiority .

Spoiler

> All Out Haki :

1--> Overflowing adv CoA :
we thought that Green Aura is the smoke of Zoro using a great deal of HAKI , but there is always an issue :

1/ Enma takes the same amount of Haki that Prime Oden used to give it , and that is confirmed by Zoro .
2/ Those Auras were never seen with Oden a single time .

So those auras we said it's related to overflowing haki isn't true , and aside this when we have Zoro using it again are we gonna say Zoro didn't master it since apparently this visual will stay with Zoro to show he's using KOH ?

Spoiler

In Other Words , there is no effect for knowing Overflowing state of Haki besides usage of KOH , while in regular cases it's just Zoro using his regular amount of CoA .

2--> Adv CoC and it's Overflowing State :
Adv CoC is the answer for durability monsters , and Zoro uses it in two styles to the point his dragon style mid level technique has a similar portrayal to Togen Totsuka which is Prime Oden's ultimate that put Kaido near death and that says a lot about KOH Mode Overall.

Spoiler

Food for thought , Oden got enma for years and he never got to have KOH title and achieving Hell flame ; Base Zoro right now is like having Prime Oden's strength coupled with Hell flame and that put him in the high level spectrum of Mid Top Tier if not High Top Tier and the only thing that differs him and Shanks ( 2sd strongest swordman ) is lacking Future Sight .

 

[CbShadow]

He can't

When he can use basic CoC freely and use CoC with enma without being exhausted
Then we can say he has control or mastered his CoC control

I've already counted your headcannon with manga facts.

Here is Zoro using CoC with just his demon splitter swords without KoH.

Zoro wasn't exhausted from using CoC. It was from using overwhelming amounts of CoA. More than Oden uses.

 

[Sentry22]

Zoro stans have been stuck in the denial phase for far too long.

When Enma dictates your Haki use and you start leaking Conquerors Haki. That's a hint. Especially when you have this nugget of information:
Specifically the last panel.

Basically mirroring what Zoro does with Enma once his conqueror's haki starts leaking out again.

 

[Rootbeer]

I've already counted your headcannon with manga facts.

Here is Zoro using CoC with just his demon splitter swords without KoH.

Zoro wasn't exhausted from using CoC. It was from using overwhelming amounts of CoA. More than Oden uses.

That doesn't counter anything though.. It's the same situation as Kaido using AdCoC and not showcasing the no touching part..
You're focusing on the wrong details.. And details that are irrelevant contextual wise..

 

[ConquistadoR]

the anime needs to adopt a consistent color scheme for conquerors coating just as they have for armament hardening.
shouldnt be green for zoro
purple for the next.

Tbh, they've been fairly consistent.

This kind of red lightning jettisoning has been to show CoC being used.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Yonko>>>>>>underlings

 

[zenox]

zoro with purple armament = oden's armament
zoro with green armament > oden's armament
zoro with acoc + green armament > oden with acoc + his armament
koh zoro > oden

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Tbh, they've been fairly consistent.

This kind of red lightning jettisoning has been to show CoC being used.

had a feeling thats what it was but its fleeting in contrast to the green aura which dominated most scenes . it begins to look like an added effect rather than the main highlight.
like it appears and disappears .but its moreso a continuous stream/trail in the manga.

this highlights what am taking about

 

[ConquistadoR]

had a feeling thats what it was but its fleeting in contrast to the green aura which dominated most scenes . it begins to look like an added effect rather than the main highlight.
like it appears and disappears .but its moreso a continuous stream/trail in the manga.

I agree that the anime team as a whole could've highlighted CoC in a better way entirely for all characters who use it.

I disagree with that it just appears & disappears, it did so even in the manga too - Zoro only used CoC on his attacks when he was going to use an attack and wasn't using it constantly. The CoA green haki cloud was constant though, else Enma would shrivel his arm and that's the point of "going all out with CoA".

Same for any character really, whether it be Kaidou or Roger or Luffy.

 

[Rootbeer]

had a feeling thats what it was but its fleeting in contrast to the green aura which dominated most scenes . it begins to look like an added effect rather than the main highlight.
like it appears and disappears .but its moreso a continuous stream/trail in the manga.

this highlights what am taking about

That's so bad.. Neither did they show the flying Haki beam from Dragon Damnation.. Complete Clown shit..

 

[CbShadow]

Yonko>>>>>>underlings

Really?

Oda told all you "Yonko > underling" fanboy to sit down and shut up when he made Buggy the Yonko captain over Mihawk and Crocodile,

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I agree that the anime team as a whole could've highlighted CoC in a better way entirely for all characters who use it.

I disagree with that it just appears & disappears, it did so even in the manga too - Zoro only used CoC on his attacks when he was going to use an attack and wasn't using it constantly. Same for any character really, whether it be Kaidou or Roger or Luffy.

I actually went back and checked out ch 1035
lol yeah you are right in most scenes he doesnt have it on, only when he is about to attack.
second point is very true

hmm
perhaps my gripe here is in places its used it should look a lot more significant
one could miss it esp when you arent watching closely and most definitely in the final attack
it was barely seen/ dominated with green colors.

think they will iron it out in more fight scenes though. am just now realizing he wasnt fighting with coc the entire time.

could see it clearly in the king of hell scene though 1000%

 

[Rootbeer]

Going from Green Smoke to Green light Saber Glow.. Clown World..