Character Discussion EoS Zoro will NOT surpass or be comparable to Ryuma
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What? Luffy surpassed oden in Wano when he beat kaido of course
He does not. Oden could use AdvCoC properly, Zoro doesn’t even know he has it. Gaban’s says you have to get your CoC under control to be able to use it properly
Zoro admits Oden is above him when he says Oden uses Enma as if it was a feather yet he himself is on the brink of death using KoH
when Oda shows That Zoro is no longer almost dying from using KoH, that’s when Zoro has surpassed Oden
He does not. Oden could use AdvCoC properly, Zoro doesn’t even know he has it. Gaban’s says you have to get your CoC under control to be able to use it properly
Zoro admits Oden is above him when he says Oden uses Enma as if it was a feather yet he himself is on the brink of death using KoH
when Oda shows That Zoro is no longer almost dying from using KoH, that’s when Zoro has surpassed Oden
They Strawhats havent had other high level fights since, I also have Kaido above Luffy and it is only till recently that Zoro learned he had CoC. This arc will be where he surpasses Oden and not that won't be by forging a black blade. There are other non black blade users like Shanks decently stronger than Oden yet don't have a bb. Once Zoro forges one, he'll be on that level with Ryuma and Mihawk.
Forging a black blade is obviously his best feat, while the rest are behind it. Again, nothing says he fought the entire WG, we have yet to see them all pull up in the same place. Ryuma was not compared to Joyboy directly, that was Luffy who didn't want his name to be known as not to be seen as hero and called Joyboy. That panel is about Luffy and Ryuma.
Neither Mihawk nor Zoro stay in Islands that interest the WG, not are they as hard to get to as Wano, you can push Ryuma above all other samurai as much as you want, they still were alive and in huge numbers. That's what makes Wano the land of the samurai. Same way Elbpah doesn't have that reputation only because of Harald, Loki but the nation as a whole. Their fodder > other fodders from other countries.
You are putting a cap on Zoro's strength that shouldn't be there. All three at the end will be the WSS and black blade wielders, that will be their best feat.
Forging a black blade is obviously his best feat, while the rest are behind it. Again, nothing says he fought the entire WG, we have yet to see them all pull up in the same place. Ryuma was not compared to Joyboy directly, that was Luffy who didn't want his name to be known as not to be seen as hero and called Joyboy. That panel is about Luffy and Ryuma.
Neither Mihawk nor Zoro stay in Islands that interest the WG, not are they as hard to get to as Wano, you can push Ryuma above all other samurai as much as you want, they still were alive and in huge numbers. That's what makes Wano the land of the samurai. Same way Elbpah doesn't have that reputation only because of Harald, Loki but the nation as a whole. Their fodder > other fodders from other countries.
You are putting a cap on Zoro's strength that shouldn't be there. All three at the end will be the WSS and black blade wielders, that will be their best feat.
Are you implying that forging a black blade is a comparable feat to fighting off the WG?
so you think Mihawk can do this too? You think Mihawk can one vs an entire onslaught of the WG from holy knights to Gorosei to thousands of soldiers?
There is a direct statement From Gyukimaru that Ryuma is the one that created the entire legend of the Samurai being strong
Yes Elbaf isn’t feared just because of Harald, since no one has ever said that… We have a character in Wano who says that Ryuma is the ONE MAN who created the entire reputation of Wano samurai
Zoro put the cap on his own strength. Zoro says his goal is to be WSS and that’s ALL HE WILL BE. Zoro has no statement saying he will be the strongest swordsman who has ever lived. Zoro will not be stronger than Roger or Rocks and most definitely won’t be stronger than Ryuma
so you think Mihawk can do this too? You think Mihawk can one vs an entire onslaught of the WG from holy knights to Gorosei to thousands of soldiers?
There is a direct statement From Gyukimaru that Ryuma is the one that created the entire legend of the Samurai being strong
Yes Elbaf isn’t feared just because of Harald, since no one has ever said that… We have a character in Wano who says that Ryuma is the ONE MAN who created the entire reputation of Wano samurai
Zoro put the cap on his own strength. Zoro says his goal is to be WSS and that’s ALL HE WILL BE. Zoro has no statement saying he will be the strongest swordsman who has ever lived. Zoro will not be stronger than Roger or Rocks and most definitely won’t be stronger than Ryuma
Kaido is stronger now than 20 years ago.
If you have a problem with what Gaban said then that’s on you
the benchmarks given for Zoro to even reach Oden level are that he can’t be dying from KoH and Favan already said that not knowing you have CoC automaticallly makes it weaker. Luffy says Zoro was leaking CoC in his fights so he e know Zoro hasnt been fighting properly already
If you have a problem with what Gaban said then that’s on you
the benchmarks given for Zoro to even reach Oden level are that he can’t be dying from KoH and Favan already said that not knowing you have CoC automaticallly makes it weaker. Luffy says Zoro was leaking CoC in his fights so he e know Zoro hasnt been fighting properly already
> Characters in the manga:
"Wow Zoro fights just like Ryuuma"
"Wow Ryuuma was also a one-eyed samurai"
Narrative:
> Zoro is a Shimotsuki, descendant of Ryuuma
> Zoro parallels Ryuuma beheading a dragon
> Zoro FIGHTS Ryuuma's zombie and is stated to be an identical type of fighter
> Ryuuma's zombie HIMSELF gives Zoro his sword
> Zoro will create a black blade like Ryuuma
> Zoro and Ryuuma genuinely look IDENTICAL, revealed in a chapter named 'spitting image'
Oda:
"In order to be popular, I prepared someone like Ryuuma (Zoro) as the 2nd main character."
You: Zoro is not a Ryuuma parallel
"Wow Zoro fights just like Ryuuma"
"Wow Ryuuma was also a one-eyed samurai"
Narrative:
> Zoro is a Shimotsuki, descendant of Ryuuma
> Zoro parallels Ryuuma beheading a dragon
> Zoro FIGHTS Ryuuma's zombie and is stated to be an identical type of fighter
> Ryuuma's zombie HIMSELF gives Zoro his sword
> Zoro will create a black blade like Ryuuma
> Zoro and Ryuuma genuinely look IDENTICAL, revealed in a chapter named 'spitting image'
Oda:
"In order to be popular, I prepared someone like Ryuuma (Zoro) as the 2nd main character."
You: Zoro is not a Ryuuma parallel
