Character Discussion Eustass Kidd and Killer fights in Onigashima

#1
I can see Kidd and Killer fighting Queen and Apoo respectively. Queen was the one who kept them imprisoned and was drowning them in Udon, Apoo on the other hand snitched them in the first place. After that Kidd should join the Kaido gangbang and have a primary role, not sure about Killer tho.
This could be a chance to redeem themselves and show their true strenght, what do you think?
 
#4
What I hope is that Kidd fights Apoo and Killer fights Hawkins. After all they were in the same alliance and were betrayed by these 2.
And I hope that's all they have because I don't want them near Kaido or his strongest subordinates. Those are for the straw hats, it is Luffy and Luffy's crew's journey. I'd rather see the best fights go to them and not to some characters that we will see only in cover stories where they marry a random ugly ass girl.
 

stairs-kun

Spoiler Provider
#5
The Kaido fight will consist of Luffy Zoro Kid Killer Drake Marco and Law.

But not everyone will remain because of Big Mom's presence.

Luffy will likely defect to fight Big Mom, as well as Kid and verily maybe Marco.

The meat of the Kaido fight will be Zoro leading the samurai, killer and maybe drake vs Kaido. While Law acts as supports until he gets put out of the fight or helps Luffy fight Big Mom.

Then again I can also see Zoro leading the samurai against Kaido.

While the rest fight the arriving Big Mom pirates.

Hawkins will boost one of the members of the alliance.

Things I'm 96% positive of.

Zoro vs Kaido will be the main course and dessert of Kaido's fight. And their fight will carry over to the mainland of Wano.

Luffy will have to leave the Kaido fight to deal with Big Mom.

Many of the Worst Generation Members won't be able to do anything to the Yonko except act as support.

Luffy will need help fighting against Big Mom until she is defeated or betrays Kaido and leaves.
 
#6
What I hope is that Kidd fights Apoo and Killer fights Hawkins. After all they were in the same alliance and were betrayed by these 2.
And I hope that's all they have because I don't want them near Kaido or his strongest subordinates. Those are for the straw hats, it is Luffy and Luffy's crew's journey. I'd rather see the best fights go to them and not to some characters that we will see only in cover stories where they marry a random ugly ass girl.
I don't agree, imo Kid story is only starting in Wano and he will have his own arc as Luffy's enemy before Laugh Tale (maybe Lodestar?) and to do so he must demonstrate that he's the only SN in Luffy's tier (showing that he can beat a YC mid-diff and Landing one of the last blows to Kaido.
Imo Hawkins'll have some affair with Law (cooperating or fighting again idk), while Killer could take Apoo as Revenge and the fight some BM veteran, this way at the end of the arc KP will be the only crew still in the game against the SH.
I see that this is SH journey but would be awkward to give a 1v1 to someone like Nami/Usop (with all due respect) and not to another Supernova captain.

Hawkins will boost one of the members of the alliance.
Damn sure about that
 
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#7
I don't agree, imo Kid story is only starting in Wano and he will have his own arc as Luffy's enemy before Laugh Tale (maybe Lodestar?) and to do so he must demonstrate that he's the only SN in Luffy's tier (showing that he can beat a YC mid-diff and Landing one of the last blows to Kaido.
Imo Hawkins'll have some affair with Law (cooperating or fighting again idk), while Killer could take Apoo as Revenge, this way at the end of the arc KP will be the only crew still in the game against the SH.
I see that this is SH journey but would be awkward to give a 1v1 to someone like Nami/Usop (with all due respect) and not to another Supernova captain.
He's not Luffy's rival. Just like Law his crew is weak. Supernovas are not Luffy's rivals, they are his cheerleaders.
It was already enough that Law played a role in Doffy's defeat, thankfully Oda didn't take the same road with Capone, for people to expect all supernovas to fight Kaido is the lamest shit I've ever heard.
20 people gangbanging 1 guy at this point is not entertaining, it's cheating and it just shows that they are weak af and will be weak af until eos.
 
#8
He's not Luffy's rival. Just like Law his crew is weak. Supernovas are not Luffy's rivals, they are his cheerleaders.
It was already enough that Law played a role in Doffy's defeat, thankfully Oda didn't take the same road with Capone, for people to expect all supernovas to fight Kaido is the lamest shit I've ever heard.
20 people gangbanging 1 guy at this point is not entertaining, it's cheating and it just shows that they are weak af and will be weak af until eos.
Supernovas are not Luffy's cheerleaders. They are meant to play a role in Luffy's journey in the New World, this role may be narrower (like Capone) or wider (like Law and Kidd). Law, for example, was crucial in the Dressrosa saga and is keeping his weight on the scale, like Kidd will do. Just because this is SH's journey doesn't mean that they are sailing in an empty sea:zorothink:
In particular I see Law more as a neutral factor, while Kidd-Killer is more of an opponent to Luffy-Zoro
 
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#9
Supernovas are not Luffy's cheerleaders. They are meant to play a role in Luffy's journey in the New World, this role may be narrower (like Capone) or wider (like Law and Kidd). Law, for example, was crucial in the Dressrosa saga and is keeping his weight on the scale, like Kidd will do. Just because this is SH's journey doesn't mean that they are sailing in an empty sea:zorothink:
In particular I see Law more as a neutral factor, while Kidd-Killer is more opponent to Luffy-Zoro
Killer is not an opponent to zoro. Zoro already beat his ass before Enma and he did it quite comfortably. He doesn't have Sanji's equivalent, no Jimbei either. Luffy's crew is too ahead of the other supernovas.

It is not an empty sea, there were warlords, now Yonko, Marines and the revolutionaries.

Kidd and his crew would need an exponential growth to be able to compete with Luffy and his crew.

Regarding Wano, too many people jumping Kaido is what I absolutely don't want.
I can't recall of any epic fights that was a 10 vs 1. There is a reason why people liked Enies Lobby so much, the build up was great and it delivered 1v1 fights that were the climax of the arc.

1v1 is the way. Give Kidd and killer a 1v1 against Apoo and Hawkins and that's fine. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji should be the ones to take out the strongest fighters in the Yonko alliance.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#10
I would enjoy a serious fight for Kidd. He needs his honor to be restored and not just in the manga but amongst fandome lol. It has been forever since Kidd was feared and considered a top supernova, so he has to prove himself again. I'm not surprised how most people believe that Kidd ranks 4th amongst all Supernova at best.

So I hope they will give him someone like Queen at least.
 
#11
Killer is not an opponent to zoro. Zoro already beat his ass before Enma and he did it quite comfortably. He doesn't have Sanji's equivalent, no Jimbei either. Luffy's crew is too ahead of the other supernovas.

It is not an empty sea, there were warlords, now Yonko, Marines and the revolutionaries.

Kidd and his crew would need an exponential growth to be able to compete with Luffy and his crew.

Regarding Wano, too many people jumping Kaido is what I absolutely don't want.
I can't recall of any epic fights that was a 10 vs 1. There is a reason why people liked Enies Lobby so much, the build up was great and it delivered 1v1 fights that were the climax of the arc.

1v1 is the way. Give Kidd and killer a 1v1 against Apoo and Hawkins and that's fine. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji should be the ones to take out the strongest fighters in the Yonko alliance.
SH are top dogs of the generation that's legit.

However ZorovKiller was not really fair for both of them, and the gap between them is larger than the one between Luffy and Kidd.

If Luffy and Zoro both get the most valuable part of Kaido's ass, Kidd should keep the pace doing something relevant (ex. taking down Queen and helping with Kaido). Same with Killer (ex. Apoo and maybe some shit with Kaido)

I would enjoy a serious fight for Kidd. He needs his honor to be restored and not just in the manga but amongst fandome lol. It has been forever since Kidd was feared and considered a top supernova, so he has to prove himself again. I'm not surprised how most people believe that Kidd ranks 4th amongst all Supernova at best.

So I hope they will give him someone like Queen at least.
You know what i mean :kata:
 
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