General & Others Executing Judge

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Borasey79

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We've just left Zou, we're in the tranquil waters outside WCi, the Germa ship approaches the Sunny and here comes Judge to tell the SHs off. Except he's not the Judge we know. It's Shaka, VP 01, leading a parallel life in Paradise under the codename Judge.

How much would that change the current story? Streamline it, even.

Shaka is in WCI to get BM's protection and help. The VPs are looking into the Void Century, but fear retaliation from the WG. What's more, Mama has some unique and exotic creatures that may carry knowledge about that period of time.

Sanji is inserted in all this. BM wants him both as a token of her alliance with VP, and because the Vinsmoke siblings were Pacifista prototypes. If BM helps the Vegapunks with their Void Century research, VP may give BM a Pacifista army instead of the giants she never got. VP may even take a look at Caesar's gigantification experiments, improve them.

The rest of the arc plot develops the same. The SHs crash the party (Stussy is lowkey shown to favor VP over her CP0 duties), where Gastino reveals Shaka's identity as a VP satellite. Subsequently Big News Morgan reports all this to the world. The WG is even more entraged by VP's action, a rage which boils to its tipping point the following arc, when Kaido and BM are rumored to be allied. The two Yonko plus VP's knowledge may force Imu to test the Mother Flame sooner.

And when BM is reported MIA in Wano, Kizaru is immediately dispatched to Egghead. BM's children, too, rush to the island to salvage whatever technology they can.
When the SHs arrive, there is already a stalemate in place. For the first time, Luffy has to choose if to side with another Yonko's crew, or if to start a three-way war.

In all of this, Sanji gets to meet his father Stela face-to-face, Bonney must decide if Sanji has any blame for his father's crimes, and Franky is in awe at having sailed all this time alongside one of his idol's creations.


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Another major change I'd have introduced is have each satellite have traits of a different race from the OP's world. Build into the early arc traitor plot a little history of the world, showing which satellite (race) is suspicious of another, which more prone to backstabbing its neighbors.
 
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That would've actually made the Vinsmokes a hell of a lot more interesting beyond being le evil power rangers and might've led to some better resolution for them and Sanji when compared to the lackluster ending they received in WCI which ended up making them feel like filler in the end. Its also a far more interesting execution for Vegapunk and co than what Egghead gave us, especially in regards to how useless and uninteresting his satellites turned out to be.
Fair.
I'm just trying to spark something that isn't the usual power-scaling discussion this forum is digging its grave with.
Yeah. I think obsessions with power-scaling have definitely been a notable contributor in the declining activity of the forum and the steadily disappearing accounts. Some delete or abandon their accounts if their power scale theories and desired fights didn't go their way while others become less active thanks to people who take this power level stuff way too seriously to the point of getting needlessly hostile.
 
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Borasey79

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That would've actually made the Vinsmokes a hell of a lot more interesting beyond being le evil power rangers and might've led to some better resolution for them and Sanji when compared to the lackluster ending they received in WCI which ended up making them feel like filler in the end
Its also a far more interesting execution for Vegapunk and co than what Egghead gave us, especially with regard to how useless and uninteresting his satellites turned out to be.
Right?
You have VP split into seven different people, but keep them together anyway? Despite there being the possibility of sending at least one or two around the world to explore/adventure in places Stela's frail body cannot access? Also, the splitting was kinda useless, or was shown in an underwhelming way? Wise Man Shaka is first to die because he's not wise enough to expect one of them betraying them. Evil Lilith does nothing evil. Eat-and-shit York is evil, but dumb. Edison has a body for no reason, may as well just be the brain in the jar. Atlas is just a homage.

VP being a genius should mean him foreseeing various scenarios, planing for different outcomes. Expecting the evil WG to act evil against him, too. We're not talking just about a book-smart man, like people say, meaning that he lacks emotional intelligence and/or wisdom, because Oda himself told us VP is a genius. He created Shaka to represent that very wisdom. He created Edison for his more inventive side. VP isn't just a "hurrdurr, I read here the AK did X so I'm going to replicate it." He's supposed to be a fully fledged genius.
So, it comes to reason that he should've suspected the WG's betrayal from the very beginning. Leaving at least one satellite in the Paradise to set up a back-up plan in case of what's happening now in Egghead should've been the bare minimum. And Shaka already has the helmet concealing his identity, therefore he could've easily posed as anybody.

Judge as a character is useless. What's necessary is the role(s) he plays: the cold father, and the wannabe king obsessed with the ancestral kingdom. The latter can be attached to VP's backstory, hell, it could be the very drive of kid VP to become a scientist in the first place. He grows up poor, learns that his forefathers were once renown kings, but being himself too weak to pick up fighting, he uses his intellectual gift to raise above his station.
As for Judge's first role - putting DNA and physical abilities over emotions, over the human part in human-being - that is pretty much the same route VP went with the sea beasts, with Kuma, with the PXs, even with the Seraphim. That plotline is the same, rehashed two arcs later. Have the desires/kokoro > DNA-splicing theme set up in WCI by Shaka, and then have it come to its full revelation in Egghead with the Seraphim. VP is supposed to be amoral, to even verge on evil under the certain circumstances arise. Vinsmoke Shaka shows that more than dumb "I wanna be a CD and eat all day" York currently does.

Reducing MADS to a trio also creates more friction. With VP the absolute genius and Caesar eager to be his apprentice (until VP disowns him), that leaves Queen jealous of their relationship, eventually leading him to distance himself from the government's research and fall in with Kaido. Have Shaka attempt to make his deal with BM, Stela is already in contact with the giants via Saul; give Edison or Atlas more panel-time by making them the go-to for the communications with Dragon, and suddenly you have the Genius 500 Years Ahead of Everyone have him hands in everybody's pies, playing all the sides for a greater, more important goal: free energy for the world.
 
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