Powers & Abilities Explaining AdCoA level 2, level 3, AdCoC level 2 and AdCoC level 2 + AdCoA level 3 combination for 2nd Graders..

Peroroncino

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#21
I'm ashamed to say that I'm so deep in rootbeer haki lore, that I know that he doesn't consider Hyo as a swordsman but a yakuza cause they're mutually exclusive for some reason
The guy who literally had a sword fighting style named after flowers?:suresure:
 
#22
The first thing Hyogoro asked Luffy to do as soon as he realized he could use internal destruction is to stop Big Mom's attack. CoA, in general, can be used for both offenses as well as defense regardless of how high level it is.
The thing Luffy tried to do against Big Mom is not Internal Destruction CoA, it's CoA Emission.. Only CoA Emission can be used as Defensive and Offensive capabilities.. Internal Destruction CoA is only Offensive..


It was never said only advanced Haki users can imbue weapons with Haki. This is NEWS to a lot of us. CoA, even the most basic version of it, can be transferred to your weapons. You don't need advanced Haki to do that shit. Amazon Lilly's fodder can shoot Hakified arrows. Hyogoro admitted he can't use internal destruction and Zoro indirectly implied he doesn't have internal destruction Haki, yet both of them can imbue their weapons in Haki without issues.
Hakied up arrows, are most likely not made by fodders, and you need CoC to imbue CoA in them, The only person able to do that on Amazon Lillly is Boa Hancock or previous Empresses..

So far flowing Haki in an object is Internal Destruction CoA.. It's just that Meito don't break like Exploding Shackles. When they overloaded with CoA, they create Haki ray burst like Roger's Kamusari and Zoro's Dragon Damnation..


Anyways, lets not hyper analyze the manga and come up with bullshit.

There are 3 main techniques regarding CoA:
  • hardening
  • barrier
  • internal destruction
There are 3 main techniques regarding CoC:
  • knocking out fodder
  • coating
  • barrier
There is evidently a distinction between a CoC barrier and a CoA barrier, that being that a CoC barrier is much stronger. However you don't need to use barrier to use ACoC, as we saw with G5, where Luffy just used CoC coating without the barrier(until bajrang gun).

This is basically what the manga tells us. In general, barrier is portrayed to be stronger than hardening/coating, and internal destruction is portrayed to be stronger than barrier. But this might not necessarily be an absolute rule. Mihawk's hardening is probably stronger than Luffy's CoA barrier.

I think trying to derive any more from this just leads you into developing headcanon, like Root's shit about the black rings.
The Barrier is not an Advanced Level of CoC Coating, it's a technique combination of CoC Coating + Internal Destruction CoA..
What i said in the title, AdCoC level 2 + AdCoA level 3.. Bajrang Gun and Galaxy Impact are the same thing..

Look out my recent thread, ''Awakenings'' in One Piece..
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
#27
It is the '' Same Thing '', as imbuing a Sword in Hardening.. CoA Sword Hardening = Internal Destruction CoA
Get that in your thick head of yours ok..
This is not correct. Using flow to channel CoA to a weapon is not like making haki enter into an object
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
#29
How.. Flowing Haki in a Sword or Shackles, it's the same.. Internal Destruction CoA = Imbuing CoA in things
First I will say respect for making own ideas that are original, not like the lemmings that come here and call you names, none of these people would ever come up with original ideas, they would only believe what is supported by a collective of people. They are not individuals like you, so don’t care about these people

I think you see things from wrong perspective. You think bc black CoA can flow and internal destruction also is haki that flow that they accomplish same thing. This is incorrect. The way the haki flows with Internal destruction is different , it is not the same flow.

Think of internal destruction like the haki flows past a object like Kaido’s scales and makes like an internal bomb inside an object.

the flow with black CoA don’t make a bomb inside an object , it builds up structure of object like sword or body to make it harder

CoA barrier is like a flow of energy that becomes like a barrier, so not like bomb inside object or make something harder, it just flows out like a barrier . Simple

Hyoguro say internal destruction is special that only few can master. Hyoguro can put black CoA on sword and also surround his sword with barrier flow, but he cannot make haki travel inside an object

Luffy did internal destruction and Kaido thinks he can become great pirate like Oden. Kaido can’t make a comparison to Oden if internal destruction is something fodders from big Mom pirate can do , this doesn’t make sense

To harden with black CoA = make harder . This is what swordsman need to make better cuts . swordsman don’t need internal destruction it goes against swordsmanship

Don’t let people bring you down , keep up the spirit :cheers:
 
#32
First I will say respect for making own ideas that are original, not like the lemmings that come here and call you names, none of these people would ever come up with original ideas, they would only believe what is supported by a collective of people. They are not individuals like you, so don’t care about these people

I think you see things from wrong perspective. You think bc black CoA can flow and internal destruction also is haki that flow that they accomplish same thing. This is incorrect. The way the haki flows with Internal destruction is different , it is not the same flow.

Think of internal destruction like the haki flows past a object like Kaido’s scales and makes like an internal bomb inside an object.

the flow with black CoA don’t make a bomb inside an object , it builds up structure of object like sword or body to make it harder

CoA barrier is like a flow of energy that becomes like a barrier, so not like bomb inside object or make something harder, it just flows out like a barrier . Simple

Hyoguro say internal destruction is special that only few can master. Hyoguro can put black CoA on sword and also surround his sword with barrier flow, but he cannot make haki travel inside an object

Luffy did internal destruction and Kaido thinks he can become great pirate like Oden. Kaido can’t make a comparison to Oden if internal destruction is something fodders from big Mom pirate can do , this doesn’t make sense

To harden with black CoA = make harder . This is what swordsman need to make better cuts . swordsman don’t need internal destruction it goes against swordsmanship

Don’t let people bring you down , keep up the spirit :cheers:
Thanks man..

So you're saying Black CoA doesn't flow in a Sword?.. It makes things way more simple to just assume that both are the same..
When someone use CoA Hardening on their body, are you saying there is no Haki Flow involved and they just harden the
part they want?

I don't think Hyougoro can imbue his Blade Black, he has never shown it and his attack is using CoA Emission with his Hair like Sandersonia on Amazon Lilly..




Maybe i missed a part, but Hyougoro has never used Black CoA on his Blade..

The difference with Oden was the Quality of the Blade and it needing CoC to activate it's power fully.

Cracker has CoC and can turn his Blade Black, but since his Sword is lower Quality, he would not be able to
scar Kaido, but he could with Enma.. Cracker could master Enma since he has CoC.. And is a Swordsman too..


So what do you think when Tashigi cut Monet in Punk Hazard, she imbued base CoA into her blade, that was not
inside the Blade, but on the surface?.. They still need to flow CoA from the body to an object i think..
 
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