Speculations Famed Blade Enhancing Abilities.. Fujitora, Shanks, Zoro..

[ImmaIvanoM]

Producing Black Lightning CoA is considerably more powerful than coating Base CoA to air slash attack

You’re making this up again

Luffy has better CoA than the scabbards yet he didn’t produce any Black lightning when he was punching Kaido

 

[Rootbeer]

You’re making this up again

Luffy has better CoA than the scabbards yet he didn’t produce any Black lightning when he was punching Kaido

Weaponized Black Lightning CoA, not Black Lightning CoA resulting from a clash.. Well you say it's AdCoC, but i haven't seen Black Lightning CoA used as an attack without Special Blades like Zoro and Roger..

Jinbei was emanating Black Lightning CoA, but he couldn't channel it into an attack..

 

[Krusher1357]

you're coming across as delusional, root-san!

 

[Blazing Lion]

And that's why i didn't base myself on that..

How is 108 pound canon more powerful than the original 108 pound canon if Zoro put the same power as he do that technique usually?..

Then why did you write it?

Oh boy, I just explained this

 

[Toby D. Dog]

When are you going to make an apology thread where you admit zoro has acoc and that you‘ve been a clown this whole time? Clownbeer?

Whenever he apologizes for being weird and gross.
never

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Weaponized Black Lightning CoA, not Black Lightning CoA resulting from a clash.. Well you say it's AdCoC, but i haven't seen Black Lightning CoA used as an attack without Special Blades like Zoro and Roger..

Jinbei was emanating Black Lightning CoA, but he couldn't channel it into an attack..

Stop making shit up. Black lightning has NEVER BEEN used as an actual power in any haki attack

The lightning isn’t real. No character has ever been shocked by haki lightning… it’s not actually there… it’s just a visual effect… no black lightning has ever done damage

 

[Rootbeer]

Stop making shit up. Black lightning has NEVER BEEN used as an actual power in any haki attack

The lightning isn’t real. No character has ever been shocked by haki lightning… it’s not actually there… it’s just a visual effect… no black lightning has ever done damage

Well if everything is labeled as AdCoC, of course there's not going to be CoA Black Lightning attacks uh!..

This is a CoA attack..

Then why did you write it?

Oh boy, I just explained this

Why you're running..

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Well if everything is labeled as AdCoC, of course there's not going to be CoA Black Lightning attacks uh!..

This is a CoA attack..

There is NO PANEL OF ANY BLACK LIGHTNING SHOCKING ANYONE… And by shocking I mean Electricity shocking… since it’s lightning… Yet it doesn’t shock

There is no such thing in the one piece manga

The panel you posted is of Roger hitting oden with and air slash… many such slashes exist… and Oden wasn’t even shocked by the lightning… it’s just a visual effect

 

[Rootbeer]

There is NO PANEL OF ANY BLACK LIGHTNING SHOCKING ANYONE… And by shocking I mean Electricity shocking… since it’s lightning… Yet it doesn’t shock

There is no such thing in the one piece manga

The panel you posted is of Roger hitting oden with and air slash… many such slashes exist… and Oden wasn’t even shocked by the lightning… it’s just a visual effect

CoA is not electricity.. Black Lightning is just the term used for it since it's volatile doesn't mean it's lightning, it's CoA Lightning..

It's definitely not an air slash, it's Black Red CoA Lightning.. Oden was shocked, he said what the hell was that..

You're all over the place..

 

[Blazing Lion]

Well if everything is labeled as AdCoC, of course there's not going to be CoA Black Lightning attacks uh!..

This is a CoA attack..

Why you're running..

Wtf bro
You want me to write things over and over again?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

CoA is not electricity.. Black Lightning is just the term used for it since it's volatile doesn't mean it's lightning, it's CoA Lightning..

It's definitely not an air slash, it's Black Red CoA Lightning.. Oden was shocked, he said what the hell was that..

You're all over the place..

Oden was NOT shocked by electricity… He was not PHYSICALLY SHOCKED… an electric current DID NOT run through his body

Black lightning doesn’t exist in the manga… no haki lightning exists… it’s just a visual effect

 

[Alpha]

How tf did i miss this thread.
Better late than never ig. Here you go rootbro

 

[Blazing Lion]

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@Rootbeer idk where we were debating the flame cutting of Kinemon and you were saying it was because of special swords. Turns out that flame cutting is the secret art of foxfire style

 

[Rootbeer]

Wtf bro
You want me to write things over and over again?

You can't explain how 108 pound canon was stronger than an original 108 pound canon without admitting that Shusui at least 2x enhanced it..

Oden was NOT shocked by electricity… He was not PHYSICALLY SHOCKED… an electric current DID NOT run through his body

Black lightning doesn’t exist in the manga… no haki lightning exists… it’s just a visual effect

You keep saying electricity.. Is CoA internal Destruction electricity?..


Why you're in denial so much..

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@Rootbeer idk where we were debating the flame cutting of Kinemon and you were saying it was because of special swords. Turns out that flame cutting is the secret art of foxfire style

You kind of dig your own grave there..

'' My Blade '' burns those '' It '' cuts..


And it doesn't mean because Kinemon's Blade allow him to cut fire effortlessly that you can't learn it..
Just like some blades like Shusui allow to coat CoA to air slashes effortlessly, doesn't mean you can't learn to coat CoA on your Air slashes, but it requires a higher Haki degree of mastery that was not explained yet with CoC..

How do explain that Hancock was able to Damage Luffy with her fruit when it has no effect in the first place on him..

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

You keep saying electricity.. Is CoA internal Destruction electricity?..


Why you're in denial so much..

COA is force… physical force… Internal destruction is physical force that can bypass durability

There is no ELECTRICITY in haki… It doesn’t exist… Oda draws those black lightning effects AS EFFECTS… they don’t mean anything in the manga world itself…

 

[mly90]

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@Rootbeer idk where we were debating the flame cutting of Kinemon and you were saying it was because of special swords. Turns out that flame cutting is the secret art of foxfire style

He can generate fire set his swords on flame and cut it just like kinemon. He already showed that in thriller bark with hiryu kean doesn't matter what sword he use even a toothpick would do

 

[Rootbeer]

COA is force… physical force… Internal destruction is physical force that can bypass durability

There is no ELECTRICITY in haki… It doesn’t exist… Oda draws those black lightning effects AS EFFECTS… they don’t mean anything in the manga world itself…

How can you say that Roger's Kamusari attack was only visual effect when it freaking sent Oden flying and did damage to him..

He can generate fire set his swords on flame and cut it just like kinemon. He already showed that in thriller bark with hiryu kean doesn't matter what sword he use even a toothpick would do

Zoro can't produce flames.. It must have come from Shusui..

We haven't seen Shusui true powers because Zoro didn't have CoC to use the Black Blade fully..

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

How can you say that Roger's Kamusari attack was only visual effect when it freaking sent Oden flying and did damage to him..

Because air slashes can send people flying… and you can apply haki to air slashes

It’s not electricity if it doesn’t shock people… there is no electric current in haki
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Zoro can't produce flames.. It must have come from Shusui..

Zoro burnt Ryuma in order to get Shusui… remember… he cut Ryuma with Wado

 

[Rootbeer]

Because air slashes can send people flying… and you can apply haki to air slashes

It’s not electricity if it doesn’t shock people… there is no electric current in haki

Then it would look like hardening does with shiny reflection.. Instead its Red Black lightning like most Haki clash.. It's CoA Lightning weaponized in an attack..

Zoro burnt Ryuma in order to get Shusui… remember… he cut Ryuma with Wado

Then, it's Wado's power, purification or something..

 

[Blazing Lion]

You can't explain how 108 pound canon was stronger than an original 108 pound canon without admitting that Shusui at least 2x enhanced it..

You kind of dig your own grave there..

'' My Blade '' burns those '' It '' cuts..


And it doesn't mean because Kinemon's Blade allow him to cut fire effortlessly that you can't learn it..
Just like some blades like Shusui allow to coat CoA to air slashes effortlessly, doesn't mean you can't learn to coat CoA on your Air slashes, but it requires a higher Haki degree of mastery that was not explained yet with CoC..

How do explain that Hancock was able to Damage Luffy with her fruit when it has no effect in the first place on him..

It enhanced the effect, it did more than what Zoro wanted, Zoro comments that it is heavier and then uses the weight and power to deflect Oars attack, then launches the 108 pound canon. Then comments that there is too much pointless destruction around the cut. The attack power is higher but the blade is ill mannered and Zoro will have to learn to wield it, Zoro is not used to it.
Nobody is saying that swords dont have different grades, different properties. The problem is you implying that a sword gives random powerups that are not earned. You give Shusui to Brook and he wont be able to use it like Zoro.

The panel I posted literally says that Kinemons Foxfire style lets him cut with flames and also cut flames. Re-read, Kinemons Foxfire style. If it was dependent on Kinemons swords then Zoro should never be able to copy it. Zoro also already showed flame attacks by setting Ryuma on fire with Hiryu Kaen.

Where do you bring all the headcanon from that Shusui adds CoA to air slashes?
What higher haki degree, stop pulling things out of your ass.

Hancock DF and the conversation we are having are two very different things

Then, it's Wado's power, purification or something..

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