Speculations Figarland Garling: Powers and Meaning.

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Crocks

#1
Figarland=> land of the figar
Garling is clearly a reference to the moon
the moon being the land of the figar, who lives on the moon? who are the figar?

Some Brazilian friends of mine have noticed that, if you notice, each Gorosei transformation is very similar to their human form: Saturn's hair resembles a spider web, Jaygarcia's mustache resembles horns, there is a similarity between the human form and the transformation. How would Garling fit in?
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/13wwt84

See how its shape can resemble the Kamaitachi boomerang:



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What do you think? He will definitely have Conqueror's Haki, that's indisputable. But I can't see what his role will be in the future, especially if he will have any interaction with Shanks.
 

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Indifferent about One Piece at best now.
#8
Just some random relevant trivia, thoughts and researching with AI to try to spout some theories and connections here:

Jesus, feeling hungry, saw a fig tree in the distance with leaves. Approaching it, he hoped to find figs but found none. It wasn't the season for figs, and the tree's leaves falsely suggested fruitfulness. Disappointed, Jesus declared that the tree would never bear fruit again. The next day, his disciples noticed the fig tree had withered completely.


The History of the Fig in the Holy Land from Ancient Times to the Present Day on JSTOR

Fig - ar - land (The fig of of the Holy Land) The devil fruit tree of God Valley.

The tree of knowledge in the garden of eden was the fig. The tree of which man 1st ate from

Garling ruled over god valley. Which means the fig tree must be in god valley. The devil fruit tree where Kaido and big mom got their devilfruits.

Xebec probably went their to go after it and take control of the tree and also to kill celestials and rule the world.
https://allchristmas.fm/what-is-christmas-garland/



From Romance Dawn:




It's quite possible that "Figarland" draws inspiration from Norse mythology, especially given the strong Norse themes present in "One Piece":
* Fenrir Connection: Some fan theories link the Figarland family to Fenrir, the monstrous wolf in Norse mythology. This is supported by:
* Saint Garling Figarland's potential connection to the Gorosei, who seem to be linked to the Five Elders, each representing a celestial body.
* Saturn, which Garling might represent, has a moon named Fenrir.
* Wolves are often associated with strength, ferocity, and leadership, reflecting the Figarland family's power and ruthlessness.
* Other Norse Elements: "One Piece" features numerous references to Norse mythology:
* Giant characters like giants and Oars resemble Norse giants.
* The Elbaf arc draws heavily from Norse mythology, with characters like Loki and giants.
* The name "Laugh Tale" could allude to Ragnarök, the apocalyptic event in Norse mythology.
While there's no direct confirmation from Oda, the author of "One Piece", about a Norse connection to "Figarland," the thematic evidence strongly suggests it. This potential link adds depth and symbolism to the Figarland family, portraying them as a powerful and potentially destructive force, much like Fenrir in Norse mythology.

"Figar" doesn't have a direct English translation, but it has connotations depending on context:
* In Urdu/Hindi: "Figar" (फ़िगार or فگار) means:
* Wounded, sore, tired, afflicted
* Heartbroken, dejected, sad, pensive
* In Spanish: "Figar" is a verb meaning "to fish with a three-pronged harpoon."

Considering the context of "One Piece," the Urdu/Hindi meanings are more relevant. The Figarland family's association with the Celestial Dragons, known for their cruelty and oppression, aligns with the connotations of "wounded" or "afflicted." It could also hint at a hidden vulnerability or pain beneath their arrogant facade.

The potential Norse connection also supports this interpretation. Fenrir, the monstrous wolf, was bound and imprisoned, causing him immense suffering and resentment. This parallels the Figarland family's potential role as a powerful but oppressed force, harboring deep-seated anger and a desire for revenge.
Ultimately, the exact meaning of "Figar" in "One Piece" is open to interpretation. However, its linguistic and thematic connections suggest a complex and multi-layered significance, reflecting the Figarland family's power, pain, and potential for destruction.

In the context of "One Piece," there are intriguing connections between Shanks and the Norse god Tyr:
* Sacrifice and Leadership:
* Tyr sacrificed his hand to bind the monstrous wolf Fenrir, symbolizing his commitment to the greater good and his willingness to bear a heavy burden.
* Shanks lost an arm saving Luffy, demonstrating his selflessness and dedication to nurturing the next generation. Both characters display strong leadership qualities, inspiring loyalty and respect.
* Hidden Strength:
* Despite losing his hand, Tyr remained a formidable warrior, respected for his courage and strategic mind.
* Shanks, even without an arm, is one of the Four Emperors, the most powerful pirates in the world. His strength lies not only in physical prowess but also in his charisma, tactical brilliance, and mastery of Haki.
* Symbolic Parallels:
* Tyr's association with wolves echoes the potential connection between the Figarland family and Fenrir. Shanks, as a possible Figarland, could embody both the strength and potential danger of a wolf.
* The name "Shanks" itself might allude to Tyr's sacrifice, as it references his missing limb.
These connections suggest that Shanks draws inspiration from Tyr, the Norse god of war and justice. This adds depth to Shanks' character, portraying him as a complex figure who embodies both power and sacrifice, strength and vulnerability. It also strengthens the potential Norse influences within the "One Piece" universe, adding a layer of symbolism and mythology to the narrative.
However, it's important to note that these are speculative interpretations based on thematic parallels and fan theories. Oda, the creator of "One Piece," has not explicitly confirmed any direct connection between Shanks and Tyr. Nevertheless, these potential links enrich the story and offer a deeper understanding of Shanks' motivations and actions.


Ironically if iirc I think it was @rerere or at least another major Killer fan who said he should be a kamaitachi smile zoan?

I'd love to see the kamaitachi in one piece and thus wind related powers but I prefer garling being a werewolf or fenrir or moon god/moon themed demon or something.
 
C

Crocks

#9
Just some random relevant trivia, thoughts and researching with AI to try to spout some theories and connections here:

Jesus, feeling hungry, saw a fig tree in the distance with leaves. Approaching it, he hoped to find figs but found none. It wasn't the season for figs, and the tree's leaves falsely suggested fruitfulness. Disappointed, Jesus declared that the tree would never bear fruit again. The next day, his disciples noticed the fig tree had withered completely.




https://allchristmas.fm/what-is-christmas-garland/



From Romance Dawn:




It's quite possible that "Figarland" draws inspiration from Norse mythology, especially given the strong Norse themes present in "One Piece":
* Fenrir Connection: Some fan theories link the Figarland family to Fenrir, the monstrous wolf in Norse mythology. This is supported by:
* Saint Garling Figarland's potential connection to the Gorosei, who seem to be linked to the Five Elders, each representing a celestial body.
* Saturn, which Garling might represent, has a moon named Fenrir.
* Wolves are often associated with strength, ferocity, and leadership, reflecting the Figarland family's power and ruthlessness.
* Other Norse Elements: "One Piece" features numerous references to Norse mythology:
* Giant characters like giants and Oars resemble Norse giants.
* The Elbaf arc draws heavily from Norse mythology, with characters like Loki and giants.
* The name "Laugh Tale" could allude to Ragnarök, the apocalyptic event in Norse mythology.
While there's no direct confirmation from Oda, the author of "One Piece", about a Norse connection to "Figarland," the thematic evidence strongly suggests it. This potential link adds depth and symbolism to the Figarland family, portraying them as a powerful and potentially destructive force, much like Fenrir in Norse mythology.

"Figar" doesn't have a direct English translation, but it has connotations depending on context:
* In Urdu/Hindi: "Figar" (फ़िगार or فگار) means:
* Wounded, sore, tired, afflicted
* Heartbroken, dejected, sad, pensive
* In Spanish: "Figar" is a verb meaning "to fish with a three-pronged harpoon."

Considering the context of "One Piece," the Urdu/Hindi meanings are more relevant. The Figarland family's association with the Celestial Dragons, known for their cruelty and oppression, aligns with the connotations of "wounded" or "afflicted." It could also hint at a hidden vulnerability or pain beneath their arrogant facade.

The potential Norse connection also supports this interpretation. Fenrir, the monstrous wolf, was bound and imprisoned, causing him immense suffering and resentment. This parallels the Figarland family's potential role as a powerful but oppressed force, harboring deep-seated anger and a desire for revenge.
Ultimately, the exact meaning of "Figar" in "One Piece" is open to interpretation. However, its linguistic and thematic connections suggest a complex and multi-layered significance, reflecting the Figarland family's power, pain, and potential for destruction.

In the context of "One Piece," there are intriguing connections between Shanks and the Norse god Tyr:
* Sacrifice and Leadership:
* Tyr sacrificed his hand to bind the monstrous wolf Fenrir, symbolizing his commitment to the greater good and his willingness to bear a heavy burden.
* Shanks lost an arm saving Luffy, demonstrating his selflessness and dedication to nurturing the next generation. Both characters display strong leadership qualities, inspiring loyalty and respect.
* Hidden Strength:
* Despite losing his hand, Tyr remained a formidable warrior, respected for his courage and strategic mind.
* Shanks, even without an arm, is one of the Four Emperors, the most powerful pirates in the world. His strength lies not only in physical prowess but also in his charisma, tactical brilliance, and mastery of Haki.
* Symbolic Parallels:
* Tyr's association with wolves echoes the potential connection between the Figarland family and Fenrir. Shanks, as a possible Figarland, could embody both the strength and potential danger of a wolf.
* The name "Shanks" itself might allude to Tyr's sacrifice, as it references his missing limb.
These connections suggest that Shanks draws inspiration from Tyr, the Norse god of war and justice. This adds depth to Shanks' character, portraying him as a complex figure who embodies both power and sacrifice, strength and vulnerability. It also strengthens the potential Norse influences within the "One Piece" universe, adding a layer of symbolism and mythology to the narrative.
However, it's important to note that these are speculative interpretations based on thematic parallels and fan theories. Oda, the creator of "One Piece," has not explicitly confirmed any direct connection between Shanks and Tyr. Nevertheless, these potential links enrich the story and offer a deeper understanding of Shanks' motivations and actions.


Ironically if iirc I think it was @rerere or at least another major Killer fan who said he should be a kamaitachi smile zoan?

I'd love to see the kamaitachi in one piece and thus wind related powers but I prefer garling being a werewolf or fenrir or moon god/moon themed demon or something.
About Garling's future in the plot, what would be your vision?
Honestly, I have a hard time visualizing what his role is and who could fight against him, and the only one who parallels him is Shanks, but we will hardly enter a scenario where Shanks will fight against a gorosei, I think.
 
#10
Ironically if iirc I think it was @rerere or at least another major Killer fan who said he should be a kamaitachi smile zoan?
It was me :myman:

My theory of the Kamaitachi SMILE Devil Fruit was debunked, as Oda revealed in an SBS that if Killer SMILE had awakened he would have transformed in a centaur-like elephant. He dodged a bullet lol.

But the connections between Killer & the Kamaitachi remain and are CANON. Oda himself, when associating SNs to animals (Luffy -> Monkey, Kidd -> Fighting Bull, Law -> Snow Leopard etc...) said Killer would be a weasel, and was the only character for which he specified he took inspiration from the Kamaitachi, from Japanese myths.
Zoro's whole encounter with Kamazo depicts the experience of being hunted by a Kamaitachi, it's full of details that can be catched even in those few pages.

But Oda never followed with a Zoan Transformation, Killer just rapresents that kind of entity as a human.

As for your thread, I think Garling could really have a Fenrir Zoan...
 

Kizaruber Eats

Indifferent about One Piece at best now.
#11
About Garling's future in the plot, what would be your vision?
Honestly, I have a hard time visualizing what his role is and who could fight against him, and the only one who parallels him is Shanks, but we will hardly enter a scenario where Shanks will fight against a gorosei, I think.
Thats a really good question, thanks for asking! I completely agree, I dont understand the necessity to promote him from leader of the holy knights to an elder but it kinda works too. Maybe Imu has grander plans in mind and the Gorosei are too incompetent for it ofc? Or Garling has been up to some nefarious keikaku secretly and thus has been speaking to Imu in secret hence why Imu replaced Saturn with him?

Given his hair is not just a moon symbol but also a star, I was expecting Oda might dive into astronomy with him, especially as he's now the godhead of science and defense over Saturn instead ofc.

He will probably be far more aggressive in actually utilisting the Seraphims and leading out slave hunts/buster calls/"cleansings" on the world, starting with Dressrosa and Fishman Island for example given their actions at the Reverie and having solidarity with Luffy and such. Or may even send them to Wano for Pluton or something?

But I think Oda has introduced him as a new Elder to dive into the importance of space in One Piece and why Enel not only went to the Moon but found the "real Birka" there and tons of stuff the Gorosei and Imu would never want the world to know about. (Imu and co are aliens? Space demons?)

Lindbergh of the Revolutionaries has been showing exactly the same tech as the people on the moon too and Vegapunk seems to be similar ofc:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/91p1oy
With York at his command now too, I can only imagine the fucked up shit they are gonna unleash together on the world. Definitely another Lulusia incident at minimum but I'm sure they will cook up some more unimaginable horrors too.

I'm sure we will see Shanks face and interact with him but yeah idk about Shanks actually fighting and defeating him, I'm wary of that. Idk why Oda insists on having 2 Swordsmen in the Gorosei as Zoro will fight Nusjuro inevitably unless he's saving Garling for Law too or something? Maybe Fujitora but I doubt it?

Me and @CoC: Color of Clowns I think it was, have discussed in the past that slave hunts should be making a return as they happen every 3 years and we don't know if they're still going and when the last one was, but its been almost 3 years in the One Piece world since the story started now right?

What if the next slave hunt is at Elbaf? We know giants were being trafficked to the WG by Carmel decades ago too hence the giant VAs too but maybe Dressrosa or FMI will be targeted for the slave hunt as coverups for their betrayals against the WG and thus attracking Charloss?

The WG just lost a ton of slaves due to the Revolutionaries and also Fujitora too and the victims of the Lulusia destruction are alive and well with the Revolutionaries too so Imu must be SEETHING and thus Garling might suggest/declar war on the Revolutionaries and thus convince Imu to give them the go ahead?

After what happened with the Revolutionaries and the fact that Mary Geoise is having food shortages, Imu is definitely desperate for someone more competent and less dumb to step up and fix shit hence why Garling was promoted too ofc.

I've wondered if we're gonna see Figarlands or Holy Knights all replace the Gorosei ultimately? I'd absolutely hate it but I wouldn't put it past Oda either. After the wastage of Saturn as a character/role/legacy, I almost expect it.

It was me :myman:

My theory of the Kamaitachi SMILE Devil Fruit was debunked, as Oda revealed in an SBS that if Killer SMILE had awakened he would have transformed in a centaur-like elephant. He dodged a bullet lol.

But the connections between Killer & the Kamaitachi remain and are CANON. Oda himself, when associating SNs to animals (Luffy -> Monkey, Kidd -> Fighting Bull, Law -> Snow Leopard etc...) said Killer would be a weasel, and was the only character for which he specified he took inspiration from the Kamaitachi, from Japanese myths.
Zoro's whole encounter with Kamazo depicts the experience of being hunted by a Kamaitachi, it's full of details that can be catched even in those few pages.

But Oda never followed with a Zoan Transformation, Killer just rapresents that kind of entity as a human.

As for your thread, I think Garling could really have a Fenrir Zoan...
Oh yeah true, I forgot about that! (More like deliberately tried to forget it like Zoro with Kokoro lmao.) That shit was fucking cursed, in the most literal, deliberate sense ofc.

Oh yeah absolutely true, I remember that animal association! That makes way too much sense and I forgot about him being Kamazou does make him a Kamaitachi too i na way ofc! Thats a really good parallel wow, thats awesome, thanks for pointing that out!

I had a feeling it was you too, I was certain I remembered you posting about it too, I'm glad I was right!

:BigW::Dr.Killer:
 
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#12
I find the Fenrir thing being the best for Garling's Mythical Zoan
(ofc assuming the Gorosei gave Mythical Zoans, i mean their transformation anyway)

https://www.sportskeeda.com/anime/o...other-power-up-involves-figarland-garling-imu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

With the two sons of Fenrir it ties to multiple things related to Shanks and the alleged Holy Knight Shanks twin brother/two Shanks theory
I would also add that the other son of Garling may be the man with the burn scar (remember Shiryu was sure it was someone from the World Government)
 
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