[FNZ] Role Madness Final Fantasy XVI Mafia - Game Thread

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Well, Luka is saying he is a tracker who was seeing where Red Night went, and what Luka saw was Red Night visiting LM.
But before he hard claimed that, Red had already claimed to have tracked LM to nowhere.

LM is dead, Luka saw Red visiting LM, but there is no indication that it was a faction kill. So the question is, what implications does this have?
Do you think that Ratchet should say ad litteram 'mafia killed...'
I think LM could be bodyguard but that doesn't look good for Red's claim at all.
"One dominant had spent the night protecting his home from the fiends of the blight"
 

MangoSenpai

Seeker of True Self
Do you think that Ratchet should say ad litteram 'mafia killed...'
I think LM could be bodyguard but that doesn't look good for Red's claim at all.
"One dominant had spent the night protecting his home from the fiends of the blight"
Well, I'm accustomed to faction kills being explicitly stated to be faction kills. That's why I'm second guessing what implications this would have.

Because if this was in fact not a mafia kill then it might imply that both red and Luka is tracker.

The thing that kind of makes me wonder is if Red would lie about having tracked LM, when Luka claims to have seen him visit LM to kind of back up his claim.

I think if there's a vig they should claim the shot on LM
 

MangoSenpai

Seeker of True Self
Do you think that Ratchet should say ad litteram 'mafia killed...'
I think LM could be bodyguard but that doesn't look good for Red's claim at all.
"One dominant had spent the night protecting his home from the fiends of the blight"
And as for the flavortext, I think it is just that.
I don't really think it's supposed to be hinting at anything. Though I could be wrong
 

Red Night

Chise and Joseph
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@Luka about what you said Yesterday, I can't explain tbh. I just feel unpowered right now. If you're really a tracker, I don't understand what happened here. Unless you were redirected but it makes poor sense to redirect a inactive slot at this moment of the game.
 
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@Luka about what you said Yesterday, I can't explain tbh. I just feel unpowered right now. If you're really a tracker, I don't understand what happened here. Unless you were redirected but it makes poor sense to redirect an inactive slot at this moment of the game.
Place yourself in the shoes of someone else for a moment. You have a player who town read scum early. They’ve effectively been counter claimed. And claimed an investigation role that has no info because out of 11 targets they picked the one guy who died. How do you not lynch that?
 
And as for the flavortext, I think it is just that.
I don't really think it's supposed to be hinting at anything. Though I could be wrong
You have to accept that we either receive a hint or nothing by the WU.
If we receive, then we can consided Melkor a protective role, and if not, it's not important at all.
I don't expect that the WU should tell us that mafia had a kill.

If any townie killed Melkor, they should claim, otherwise I consider that an effect of the mafia factional, either direct on him (first option) or on a player Melkor defended (if I trust the WU as a hint).
 

Red Night

Chise and Joseph
Place yourself in the shoes of someone else for a moment. You have a player who town read scum early. They’ve effectively been counter claimed. And claimed an investigation role that has no info because out of 11 targets they picked the one guy who died. How do you not lynch that?
It was a early vibe read. That's why he was slight townie categorized. You said yourself that you're a vibe player in early game. Your view on me is biased by the fact that Yoho turned to be scum and that I claimed tracking Melkor last night. I don't think I'm experienced enough to understand what went wrong with the situation. You're exactly saying what Emil said yesterday I know that I'm not in a good position. Well, I'll try to make abstraction of my own situation to leave a legacy.
 
You have to accept that we either receive a hint or nothing by the WU.
If we receive, then we can consided Melkor a protective role, and if not, it's not important at all.
I don't expect that the WU should tell us that mafia had a kill.

If any townie killed Melkor, they should claim, otherwise I consider that an effect of the mafia factional, either direct on him (first option) or on a player Melkor defended (if I trust the WU as a hint).
Another question worth asking, is why would scum target Melkor’s slot? I don’t recall him hinting at a particular PR. And he wasn’t super town leaning either. Which makes me think two possibilities that are more likely.
A. Scum are relatively cowardly. And wanted to pick someone unlikely to have the attention of a protection role. But why play conservative after you’ve just lost a day 1 lynch? You’re already behind the 8 ball. You need to be bold as scum when you’re falling behind. Otherwise the town will out confirm town leans faster than you can deal with it. And you’ll be exposed as the odd man out of a town block.
B. Melkor was a protection role that required some degree of risk to use. Like a bodyguard. The scum did go for a more juicy target last night, and Melkor got killed instead. This seems the stronger play from scum. Just unlucky for them Melkor did his job.
 
It was a early vibe read. That's why he was slight townie categorized. You said yourself that you're a vibe player in early game. Your view on me is biased by the fact that Yoho turned to be scum and that I claimed tracking Melkor last night. I don't think I'm experienced enough to understand what went wrong with the situation. You're exactly saying what Emil said yesterday I know that I'm not in a good position. Well, I'll try to make abstraction of my own situation to leave a legacy.
My view on you isn’t based on Yoho flipping scum. It’s confirmed by Yoho flipping scum. The difference is I already had this view from posts yesterday phase. And then it continues to pile on worse for you. Also side stepping my question and just deflecting into excuses digs a deeper hole.
 

Red Night

Chise and Joseph
I think that if there's someone I suspect the most, it would be Psy. About her silence since the day started. Her changing her vote on me to Watson doesn't look good.
 
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