Current Events Final Saga

[JoNdule]

We're at endgame, the final saga with over 1000 chapters yet

• Haki isn't fully established
• Devil fruits power system (logia awakening still a mystery, seems like there's still more left)

Imagine read8ng a series and its number 2 power system isn't fully established
Not forgetting the number 1, devil fruits lore and power system hasn't fully been established/explained yet

Oda should have established each df category awakening before yonko saga.
Fully established haki pre yonko saga too.
Have Ray or people mention FS, adcoa and coc coating already pre TS so that it hypes Luffy to get stronger when he reaches NW.

(Maybe Make Luffy, Zoro and Sanji have basic haki at WL or TB...then they go into training to master basic haki and gain new PUs)

He leaves everything open so that he can make up new rule, new abilities or just retcon old abilities as haki.

I bet you we will reach Beehive arc or even final war without us fully knowing everything about haki
Watch and see

@everyone @RayanOO @Playa4321

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Blud's entire post is just wrong

 

[CensoredbyWG]

It works with one piece, but fails miserably everywhere else.

Oda is the only one who manages to pull those random power ups with ZERO foreshadowing without losing his grip on the powerscale
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bet you we will reach Beehive arc or even final war without us fully knowing everything about haki
Watch and see

Beehive on the next decade maybe.

For this one its: elbaf, emerald City, the island that law was going prior to his meeting with BB, undergroud arc and possibly the moon that enel went to.

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

I feel like the power system is nearly fully explained. Like many Manga and Eastern Martial arts the power of the characters is split at the most basic level between Mind and Body.

Body primarily being Stamina
Mind primarily being Will

Both of these attributes grow as the characters encounter greater hardships and training, resulting in them having stronger Physical attributes and stronger Haki.

While the power of Devil Fruit depends on the combination of both these attributes, with awakening being achieved by someone who has mastered both in relation to the level of their Devil Fruit. For example Kaku needs to achieve a lower level in these areas to Awaken then Luffy, since his DF is vastly inferior to Luffy’s.

Just because we haven’t seen all awakening yet doesn’t mean Oda hasn’t explained how they work

 

[Herrera95]

I don't think those are valids complains.

Take other animes for example. Naruto till the end we were still learning new things about Chakra, jutsu, gates, Sharingan etc.

FullMetal Alchemist we only learned everything in the very end of it.

HxH we still doesn't know the full applications of Nen and how those things of the Dark Continent work.

DBZ is more simple but we are still having new things related to Ki and Super Sayan.

One Piece case is very special because Luffy and Zoro has to be master of haki and Luffy master of his DF on the very end when he peaks. So I would say right now is a good time to get full knowledge of DFs but we may took a little to know about haki since Zoro is not on his peak yet(black blade).

Luffy peaked not only in strength but with his DF. We can only guess people has to die to awake.

Black blades are peak of haki so it's not time to understand everything about it yet.

We also have other powers like voice of all things that yet to be explained.

 

[JoNdule]

I don't think those are valids complains.

Take other animes for example. Naruto till the end we were still learning new things about Chakra, jutsu, gates, Sharingan etc.

FullMetal Alchemist we only learned everything in the very end of it.

HxH we still doesn't know the full applications of Nen and how those things of the Dark Continent work.

DBZ is more simple but we are still having new things related to Ki and Super Sayan.

One Piece case is very special because Luffy and Zoro has to be master of haki and Luffy master of his DF on the very end when he peaks. So I would say right now is a good time to get full knowledge of DFs but we may took a little to know about haki since Zoro is not on his peak yet(black blade).

Luffy peaked not only in strength but with his DF. We can only guess people has to die to awake.

Black blades are peak of haki so it's not time to understand everything about it yet.

We also have other powers like voice of all things that yet to be explained.

Oda didn't even establish basic Haki fully yet
We don't know to what length CoA levels go

Oda retconned Luffy's df so that he can add more bs into awakenings and haki

HxH isn't even in its final saga. It established already its power system very well.

I feel like the power system is nearly fully explained. Like many Manga and Eastern Martial arts the power of the characters is split at the most basic level between Mind and Body.

Body primarily being Stamina
Mind primarily being Will

Both of these attributes grow as the characters encounter greater hardships and training, resulting in them having stronger Physical attributes and stronger Haki.

While the power of Devil Fruit depends on the combination of both these attributes, with awakening being achieved by someone who has mastered both in relation to the level of their Devil Fruit. For example Kaku needs to achieve a lower level in these areas to Awaken then Luffy, since his DF is vastly inferior to Luffy’s.

Just because we haven’t seen all awakening yet doesn’t mean Oda hasn’t explained how they work

Do you guys realise that we don't know about logia awakening yet?
We didn't even know what it truly takes for a zoan to awaken (near death experinces is what lots of people did)
We didn't also get how paramecia people awaken their abilities...what's the real trigger?

We don't even know if CoC has still more abtlies left

When entering Final Saga, the power systems should be 80% fully explained and understood
It shouldn't still be left open to add more bs or retcons.

 

[Herrera95]

Oda didn't even establish basic Haki fully yet
We don't know to what length CoA levels go

Oda retconned Luffy's df so that he can add more bs into awakenings and haki

HxH isn't even in its final saga. It established already its power system very well.

Yes he did.

Basic Armament endures your body and allows to hit logias and ignore devil fruits powers.

Basic observation makes you aware of your surrounders and can extend to whole islands while also predicting movement in the near future(like a 1s Future Sight).

Basic Conqueror allows you to oppress your opponent and based on the difference between your strengths and the force you are putting on to opress you can just scared him or you can even knock out him by you mere presence.

I don't think Oda's retcon of Luffy's DF has anything to do with haki. But yeah he complicated awakening even more.

HxH has the same level of establishment when it comes to it's power system as One Piece. Yet we have things we don't understand about it like 5 threats, Gon's adult form, Specialist Nen...

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

Oda didn't even establish basic Haki fully yet
We don't know to what length CoA levels go

Oda retconned Luffy's df so that he can add more bs into awakenings and haki

HxH isn't even in its final saga. It established already its power system very well.



Do you guys realise that we don't know about logia awakening yet?
We didn't even know what it truly takes for a zoan to awaken (near death experinces is what lots of people did)
We didn't also get how paramecia people awaken their abilities...what's the real trigger?

We don't even know if CoC has still more abtlies left

When entering Final Saga, the power systems should be 80% fully explained and understood
It shouldn't still be left open to add more bs or retcons.

Oda explained the trigger is reaching a certain level mentally and physically which is different depending on the fruit. I don’t think we need much more explanation than that. We’ll see Logia awakening with Teach or Akainu, though I personally think Enel already showed it in his final clash with Luffy.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Oda is already retconning and giving power-ups (Adv CoA, Adv CoC, Awakening) and lore (D names) for free.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Oda will keep introducing new levels of haki as he goes. Its obvious at this point lol.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Just wait till EOS when half of the Pirate King's crew doesn't know a single haki type.

Oda will probably just keep on introducing new powers up related to fruits and haki too.

 

[JoNdule]

Just wait till EOS when half of the Pirate King's crew doesn't know a single haki type.

Oda will probably just keep on introducing new powers up related to fruits and haki too.

People would still find excuses for Oda

Imagine PK crew having only 4 haki users
And haki overall isn't even understood properly and explorex in the story

 

[L o g i a]

We learn the powerscaling through the eyes of the protags. It's a genius way of writing it in.
We start knowing nothing of Haki and very little of devil fruits in a sea where most people never cross paths with a devil fruit.
As time progressed, we learned more about Devil Fruits as and when we encountered different types.

We only saw visible representations of CoA after the crew started learning about it. It's as if post-skip we see the use of Haki through the eyes of a Haki user.

Being dripfed more strongly embeds our understanding of prior concepts over time. It's the best written power system i'm aware of.

We also know how awakenings work, and it makes sense as to why Logia awakenings are particularly rare. We will see them.
We also see more and more advanced Haki techniques as we get more exposure to strong characters - which again just makes sense. When else are we going to see them?