Character Discussion Final thoughts on Kaido and Orochi?

#23
I do not know why folk are praising Orochi over Kaido when Orochi was just as shit and his presence ate into Kaido's screentime which is bad considering Kaido was a character who had decades of hype. The Yonko Saga main antagonist should be prioritized over the tertiary arc antagonist that is Orochi.

He rose to power because of his family relative's plot combined with Kaido's strength. He piggybacked off of everyone else around him. Despite barely doing anything himself, he still managed to succeed and achieved everything he wanted to..... and then stayed so he can be killed.

Last I checked, his main goal was to punish the denizens of Wano and run the whole country into the ground. Mission accomplished for two whole decades.

Except there was that whole prophesy thing about some meddling samurai coming back to fuck shit up.

Now that would have been a problem if Orochi hadn't already accomplished his goals but he had. He could of retired and allowed Kaido to deal with that samurai nonsense but nope, Orochi willingly stayed to die.

He was even willing to throw hands with Kaido over the island that he deliberately ran to ruin despite the fact Kaido was going to continue ruining the country just as Orochi himself wanted to. :kobeha:

Why exactly did he directly challenge the bloke rumoured to be the mightiest motherfecker alive when the latter was going to continue doing to a land what Orochi himself wanted to do anyway? :denzimote:

Literally the only reason Orochi ruled for 20 years is because Kaido allowed it, yet Orochi was apparently too stupid to process that and proceeded to talk smack to Kaido's face when surrounded by the entirety of the Beast Pirates' heavy hitters. :kaidowhat:

Literally nobody takes Orochi seriously. Kaido beheaded him without a second thought and the Scabbards decided that they had more personal beef with Kaido than with Orochi and treated the latter like an inconvenience to be swatted. Feckin Raizo had a battle with Phallic Mic the Morning Wood Ninja but Orochi gets unceremoniously neg diffed by everybody, three times in a row no less.

Orochi is a joke villain. Damn Wapol was treated as more of a legitimate threat than him. :jay-yeah:
 

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#28
Orochi was good up to the port. After we enter Onigashima, Oda brushed him aside. But till then, he was competent, careful and villainous, like Doffy.

In Onigashima, Orochi became cartoonish.

Kaido was a bad character. He has that final boss vibe, but other than that, he is forgettable.
 
#29
Kaido is strong and he has his moments but other than that he’s whatever as a villain

Orochi is weak and his design is shit but I actually really liked him as a character. Punished from birth because of mistakes his family made that he wasn’t even around to witness, pushed to the brink and eventually broke. The old hag used his hatred to manipulate him and crush Wano… and they were actually successful.

If you really look at it Wano suffered under him for a LONG time and it would’ve stayed that way if not for Luffy
 
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