General & Others Fisher Tiger and Whitebeard

RayanOO

RayanOO

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We know that some time after Roger's death (24 years ago) the great age of piracy began. Fishmen island was attacked a lot by pirates and WB who was friend with King Neptune claimed the island as his territory.



A guy in Fishmen Island said that WB claimed the terrotory 20 years ago. I don't know if he meant 20 years ago exactly or around 20 years ago.



WB didn't seem to wear his hat, but Jozu looked quite the same as during the meeting between WB and Shiki : Shiki espaced 2 years after Roger death so 22 years ago and met with WB.



So yeah it seems that 20 years ago is fine for the date when he claimed the island.

Fisher Tiger came back to FI 16 years ago and after being a slave for years. So I don't know if Tiger was there when WB made his claim or if he was already in Marie Geoise as a slave. Jimbe etc said that Tiger had not came back for years so maybe he was not there.

When he returned nobody talked about WB or Fishmen island protection by the Yonko.

What do you think about Tiger and his possible view about WB ? WB even if he is 6m tall he is still a human.

How did Tiger react when a human protected his territory and brought relative "Peace" there ?

Tiger said that he tried to love a human but he couldn't really. What did he think about WB ?
 
Gargo

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RayanOO said:
We know that some time after Roger's death (24 years ago) the great age of piracy began. Fishmen island was attacked a lot by pirates and WB who was friend with King Neptune claimed the island as his territory.



A guy in Fishmen Island said that WB claimed the terrotory 20 years ago. I don't know if he meant 20 years ago exactly or around 20 years ago.



WB didn't seem to wear his hat, but Jozu looked quite the same as during the meeting between WB and Shiki : Shiki espaced 2 years after Roger death so 22 years ago and met with WB.



So yeah it seems that 20 years ago is fine for the date when he claimed the island.

Fisher Tiger came back to FI 16 years ago and after being a slave for years. So I don't know if Tiger was there when WB made his claim or if he was already in Marie Geoise as a slave. Jimbe etc said that Tiger had not came back for years so maybe he was not there.

When he returned nobody talked about WB or Fishmen island protection by the Yonko.

What do you think about Tiger and his possible view about WB ? WB even if he is 6m tall he is still a human.

How did Tiger react when a human protected his territory and brought relative "Peace" there ?

Tiger said that he tried to love a human but he couldn't really. What did he think about WB ?
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If he could not love an human, I thin he could not love Whitebeard too.

But I have not a lot to back it up.

Sorry.

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Jew D. Boy

Jew D. Boy

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Tiger was able to stifle his hatred of humans when it came to Koala/the Boa sisters, so despite not truly being able to view any of them in a totally positive light, he can still recognize when an individual member of the species is worthy of protection or affection. I bet he respected and appreciated Whitebeard’s efforts in keeping Fishman Island safe regardless of any lingering resentment towards other surface dwellers.
 
RayanOO

RayanOO

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Jew D. Boy said:
I bet he respected and appreciated Whitebeard’s efforts in keeping Fishman Island safe regardless of any lingering resentment towards other surface dwellers
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I agree that Tiger is not completely narrow minded about humans and he can find some qualities in some of them.

But WB wasn't just nice to him or without prejudices, he saved them all. Because without his protection FI would have been a war zone.

I would have loved that they had met someday and I would have wanted to see Tiger reaction or behavior toward Whitebeard.

Jimbe was extremely grateful and was ready to sacrifice anytime for WB. He fought Ace because he wanted to attack WB. He fought in MF too for that. Because he knew what the man did for his people.

But I agree that Jimbe and Tiger didn't have the same live and Tiger lived very traumatic experiences and I totally understand his hate.
But maybe like Oden if he had met someone like WB or Roger he would have loved a humain.
 
Monet

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Fisher tiger he suffered a lot from humans thats why he cant love them , as he cried when he told his crew he was a slave .
but even with that he understand that the not all humans are bad, he even didn't allow his crew to kill the marines !! , he agree wit otohimim that the next gen will see better with humans , even he said to not tell the others about his tragedy .



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"My mind can see the truth ,but the demon in my heart stands firm"

why is this quote not famous :feelscryingman:
 
T

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at 666 he probably mistook him for a giant.

nah seriously, I think he was grateful, but 1 right does not right many wrongs. or something like that.
 
Lampyris

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Whitebeard is more like a symbolic presence in the back of Fisher Tiger's mind. Perfectly exemplified by Whitebeard putting his flag on the island but have no actual residence or subordinates on the island. Fisher Tiger lacks a physical connection to him. He may have wanted to meet him one day, but maybe he was too busy doing his thing or traveling across the New World was a bit difficult to manage.

He's not a zealot like Arlong or Hody. Fisher Tiger has no reason to talk about the good ones just because he goes after the bad ones who kidnap or enslave other fishmen. Unlike those two, he suffered greatly in the early part of his life and the emotional scars never really went away. He's not going to behave the same way those humans did, but he's not going out of his way to praise them either. He holds subdued respect for Whitebeard.

Alternatively, you could think Whitebeard is somehow not good enough for Fisher Tiger. This is the guy who climbed the Red Line to free some slaves. Whitebeard doesn't target the World Government. He doesn't go after slaves camps. That claiming Fishman Island, the gateway to the New World, as his territory is good enough as its own motive and all this talk about doing out of the kindness of his heart is fishmen injecting their own understanding. Whitebeard is not saint to FI, he's just another human being with his own self-interests. He's a tolerable personality the fishmen could live with, but not somebody Fisher Tiger would look up or go out of his way to talk about. In this view, Fisher Tiger died idolizing no humans.

This is the internal trauma in Fisher Tiger's soul. He is well traveled and accomplished, he knows fishmen are far from the only people suffering out there. He knows humans predominantly rule the world through the WG, Marines or as pirates, but a very large proportion if not a majority are dissatisfied with how they have to live. Fisher Tiger is a prisoner of his own bias, of his own experiences. Almost like he developed a survival mechanism. He will keep humans, possibly even Whitebeard, at arm's length. But I do like to believe if Fisher Tiger were alive, he would be fighting for Whitebeard at Marineford.
 
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