Controversial Fishman Island was the last Oda masterclass

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The theme of fishman island is hatred and its effects on people and how people respond to it.

Or in @Rootbeer 's terms the hatred path

Oda gave us different ways of how society or people in general responds to hatred.


1. The Otohime path - the ideal pure good path where in she treats hatred with overwhelming love in respond to fight it off. Truly a pure ideal path.

2. Fisher Tiger path - the path where people tries to still do the good thing but ultimately succumbing to the hatred they feel.

3. Jimbei path - is a path where in Jimbei tried to balance the ideals of both Otohime and fisher tiger. I call jimbei as Thorfinn lite where in they both tries to find the balance of ideals on how to deal with hatred and violence. But in jimbei's case it leans more on the hatred aspect because jimbei still fights people.

4. Arlong path - the path where in people fight off hatred with hatred. Superiority complex or to them they're just empowering their people. This path is the most realistic path of them all.

5. Hody Jones path - the path of people who lives with hatred in their hearts their whole life. He was so full of everything that he just hated everyone his people and humans. He was too far gone.

Idc what everyone says but Hody Jones was a good antagonist. Even better than most OP antagonists.

Hope I expressed what I want to express cause I'm not really good with my words lol.

I love jimbei man.

@Boiroy @Lor D. Coast @Seth @RayanOO
 
gz89

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FMI was literally one of the worst arcs.


OP had one month break back then aswell and people were so excited when the crew returned to SA and we were heading to FMI only to turned out it was the time the downhill of the manga started.
 
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Stacks said:
Fmi was peak storytelling and giving different perspectives. It's all about the themes and not about power.
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I never said anything about the fights.

Skypiea didnt have any memorable fights besides Enel but it was a great arc.
W7 didnt have any serious fights at all and was the peak of OP.
 
ThreePiece

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Classic wank of an old universally hated arc just to try and stand out, you hipster. And I thought the WCI bandwagon after Wano ended was the lowest this bitter and bipolar fandom could stoop.

Let me try: Long Long Ring Island was peak One Piece and simply misunderstood. Afro Luffy was truly ahead of the times
:kidsmile:
 
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ThreePiece said:
Classic wank of an old universally hated arc just to try and stand out, you hipster. And I thought the WCI bandwagon after Wano ended was the lowest this bitter and bipolar fandom could stoop.

Let me try: Long Long Ring Island was peak One Piece and simply misunderstood. Afro Luffy was truly ahead of the times
:kidsmile:
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Crazy to say because I'm a oda hater.
 
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gz89 said:
Fuck this cringe "love each other, make peace not war" lines of Otohime.

Koala and Fisher Tiger's backstory were good tho.

Overall the arc was garbage.
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Otohime serves her purpose 😭😭

She was needed to give different perspectives.

That's why she was the pure idealistic person.

LMAOOO you didn't get fmi at all
 
LemonadeCandy

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gz89 said:
Fuck this cringe "love each other, make peace not war" lines of Otohime.

Koala and Fisher Tiger's backstory was good tho.

Overall the arc was garbage.
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Tiger's whole philosophy with the founding of the Sun Pirates was to establish the Fishman's struggle as a peaceful one, one in which they wouldn't lower themselves to the barbarity that they were subjected to. That's why he made it a rule that the crew would only defend themselves and loot from those who openely attack them while never actually going for murder.

It's pretty clear that Tiger himself, despite his own deep hatred of humans, ultimately believed in the ideals of Otohime and recognized that reinforcing the feeling of distrust and animosity between the two races would not do any good in the long run. His story is so effective to me specifically because he was able to respect and believe in idealistic views despite being a victim of some of the worst atrocities humans are capable of.

Their respective stories compliment one another.
 
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LemonadeCandy said:
Tiger's whole philosophy with the founding of the Sun Pirates was to establish the Fishman's struggle as a peaceful one, one in which they wouldn't lower themselves to the barbarity that they were subjected to. That's why he made it a rule that the crew would only defend themselves and loot from those who openely attack them while never actually going for murder.

It's pretty clear that Tiger himself, despite his own deep hatred of humans, ultimately believed in the ideals of Otohime and recognized that reinforcing the feeling of distrust and animosity between the two races would not do any good in the long run. His story is so effective to me specifically because he was able to respect and believe in idealistic views despite being a victim of some of the worst atrocities humans are capable of.

Their respective stories compliment one another.
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This!!! Otohime literally is the reason why fisher tiger is the way he is and why jimbei is the way he is.

Then it affected arlong and hody in a different way.

Otohime was the base of it all
 
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