Questions & Mysteries Forest God or Moon God?

Erkan12

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As you guys know my previous thread:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/imu-cutting-posters-isnt-that-simple.53805/


Now we know that there is a Mural showing the 4 Gods: Sun, Sea, Earth, Forest Gods.

Alongside with Imu, there could be 4 gods here as well;



  • Sun God is confirmed: Luffy.
  • Sea God, most likely Shirahoshi Poseidon Ancient Weapon: as we understand from Poseidon name, it should be related to Sea.
  • Earth God, most likely Imu, as Earth represesent World, and secret king of the world is Imu.
  • Forest God,

Now, since 5 Elders are planets and there are people believing that Garling is the Moon that replaced Saturn from 5 Elders, then Imu is the Earth God.

There is Forest God and Teach left, as we know from both Imu cutting posters and Saturn saying Teach's bloodline is special, there is something about Teach as well.

Teach could represent Sea or Earth god as well, because his Quake DF controls the tides and creates Tsunamis, but then Shirahoshi Poseidon can't be anything other than Sea God so Teach being Sea God might not happen, he can reshape the Earth by using his Quake ability as well he can create Earthquakes so in that way he can perhaps be Earth God.

Imu could be the Earth God is simply because Imu is currently secret the King of the World. World is also called Earth simple as it is, and also Imu possibliy is in tune with other 5 plaents and Moon, thus Imu is in the center of all things which makes him Earth.

Then there is Forest God left and Blackbeard left.

But what is the connection with Forest and Blackbeard? Greenbull has the Forest Logia, while Teach has the Darkness Logia.

The connection could be when Rayleigh and Luffy went to a dangerous forest (Rusukaina island, Rusukaina word play means nobody's home) Rayleigh says:



Luffy couldn't sleep safely if he wasn't trained hard alongside with Rayleigh.

That was 400 million bounty Luffy and he was with Rayleigh, and he still says Luffy might not even sleep without training.

Imagine if someone younger alone had to survive there, he couldn't sleep. Could be that Teach was not sleeping to survive in that forest?



Remember what Blackbeard was telling Ace;


''Survival is all that matters in this world''

Another interesting ''game'' from Blackbeard, he takes ''survivors'' from the Level 6 cells;


Another question would be that Greenbull has the Forest logia, not Blackbeard so he can't be Forest god. That might be true, but there is also similarities between Greenbull's ability and Blackbeard's darkness ability.

First of all there is an interesting paralels such as;

- Blackbeard stealing Whitebeard's power, meanwhile Greenbull stealing Whitebeard Jr. Weevil.
- Shanks was expecting Blackbeard to show up in Wano, but instead Greenbull shows up.

Then the similarities between the abilities;

- Greenbull drains the energy of his opponent by pulling the liquids from his opponents body.




- Blackbeard pulls everything even the light, drains the energy of his opponent by pulling the everything includes even the energy of Devil fruit abilities so that his opponents can't use Devil fruits.




This could be like Darkness logia being superior logia ability of Forest logia, similar to Magma logia being superior logia ability of Flame logia.

Another interesting thing is, Greenbull pretends to get hurt;


We know Blackbeard toys with his opponents;

At the beginning;


Later;


There is also Garp's final lesson to Koby, where he mentions Koby needs to escape from the forest that full of wild beasts, in that final lesson, the Hachinosu Blackbeard's Island is the forest and his crew are the wild beasts.


Which is better? Moon God or Forest God?
 
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Erkan12 said:
As you guys know my previous thread:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/imu-cutting-posters-isnt-that-simple.53805/


Now we know that there is a Mural showing the 4 Gods: Sun, Sea, Earth, Forest Gods.

Alongside with Imu, there could be 4 gods here as well;



  • Sun God is confirmed: Luffy.
  • Sea God, most likely Shirahoshi Poseidon Ancient Weapon: as we understand from Poseidon name, it should be related to Sea.
  • Earth God, most likely Imu, as Earth represesent World, and secret king of the world is Imu.
  • Forest God,

Now, since 5 Elders are planets and there are people believing that Garling is the Moon that replaced Saturn from 5 Elders, then Imu is the Earth God.

There is Forest God and Teach left, as we know from both Imu cutting posters and Saturn saying Teach's bloodline is special, there is something about Teach as well.

Teach could represent Sea or Earth god as well, because his Quake DF controls the tides and creates Tsunamis, but then Shirahoshi Poseidon can't be anything other than Sea God so Teach being Sea God might not happen, he can reshape the Earth by using his Quake ability as well he can create Earthquakes so in that way he can perhaps be Earth God.

Imu could be the Earth God is simply because Imu is currently secret the King of the World. World is also called Earth simple as it is, and also Imu possibliy is in tune with other 5 plaents and Moon, thus Imu is in the center of all things which makes him Earth.

Then there is Forest God left and Blackbeard left.

But what is the connection with Forest and Blackbeard? Greenbull has the Forest Logia, while Teach has the Darkness Logia.

The connection could be when Rayleigh and Luffy went to a dangerous forest (Rusukaina island, Rusukaina word play means nobody's home) Rayleigh says:



Luffy couldn't sleep safely if he wasn't trained hard alongside with Rayleigh.

That was 400 million bounty Luffy and he was with Rayleigh, and he still says Luffy might not even sleep without training.

Imagine if someone younger alone had to survive there, he couldn't sleep. Could be that Teach was not sleeping to survive in that forest?



Remember what Blackbeard was telling Ace;


''Survival is all that matters in this world''

Another interesting ''game'' from Blackbeard, he takes ''survivors'' from the Level 6 cells;


Another question would be that Greenbull has the Forest logia, not Blackbeard so he can't be Forest god. That might be true, but there is also similarities between Greenbull's ability and Blackbeard's darkness ability.

First of all there is an interesting paralels such as;

- Blackbeard stealing Whitebeard's power, meanwhile Greenbull stealing Whitebeard Jr. Weevil.
- Shanks was expecting Blackbeard to show up in Wano, but instead Greenbull shows up.

Then the similarities between the abilities;

- Greenbull drains the energy of his opponent by pulling the liquids from his opponents body.




- Blackbeard pulls everything even the light, drains the energy of his opponent by pulling the everything includes even the energy of Devil fruit abilities so that his opponents can't use Devil fruits.




This could be like Darkness logia being superior logia ability of Forest logia, similar to Magma logia being superior logia ability of Flame logia.

Another interesting thing is, Greenbull pretends to get hurt;


We know Blackbeard toys with his opponents;

At the beginning;


Later;


There is also Garp's final lesson to Koby, where he mentions Koby needs to escape from the forest that full of wild beasts, in that final lesson, the Hachinosu Blackbeard's Island is the forest and his crew are the wild beasts.


Which is better? Moon God or Forest God?
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BlackBeard could be the Darkness/Night God. Which would be the opposite of Sun/Day God.
 
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Your reasoning is a big stretch, you cannot figure this out with logic and even that ain't your forte...
Blackbeard could be one of the gods in OP world, perhaps one of those two you mentioned, perhaps none of those 2.
Perhaps he is a different and yet unnamed god.
 
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Erkan12 said:
As you guys know my previous thread:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/imu-cutting-posters-isnt-that-simple.53805/


Now we know that there is a Mural showing the 4 Gods: Sun, Sea, Earth, Forest Gods.

Alongside with Imu, there could be 4 gods here as well;



  • Sun God is confirmed: Luffy.
  • Sea God, most likely Shirahoshi Poseidon Ancient Weapon: as we understand from Poseidon name, it should be related to Sea.
  • Earth God, most likely Imu, as Earth represesent World, and secret king of the world is Imu.
  • Forest God,

Now, since 5 Elders are planets and there are people believing that Garling is the Moon that replaced Saturn from 5 Elders, then Imu is the Earth God.

There is Forest God and Teach left, as we know from both Imu cutting posters and Saturn saying Teach's bloodline is special, there is something about Teach as well.

Teach could represent Sea or Earth god as well, because his Quake DF controls the tides and creates Tsunamis, but then Shirahoshi Poseidon can't be anything other than Sea God so Teach being Sea God might not happen, he can reshape the Earth by using his Quake ability as well he can create Earthquakes so in that way he can perhaps be Earth God.

Imu could be the Earth God is simply because Imu is currently secret the King of the World. World is also called Earth simple as it is, and also Imu possibliy is in tune with other 5 plaents and Moon, thus Imu is in the center of all things which makes him Earth.

Then there is Forest God left and Blackbeard left.

But what is the connection with Forest and Blackbeard? Greenbull has the Forest Logia, while Teach has the Darkness Logia.

The connection could be when Rayleigh and Luffy went to a dangerous forest (Rusukaina island, Rusukaina word play means nobody's home) Rayleigh says:



Luffy couldn't sleep safely if he wasn't trained hard alongside with Rayleigh.

That was 400 million bounty Luffy and he was with Rayleigh, and he still says Luffy might not even sleep without training.

Imagine if someone younger alone had to survive there, he couldn't sleep. Could be that Teach was not sleeping to survive in that forest?



Remember what Blackbeard was telling Ace;


''Survival is all that matters in this world''

Another interesting ''game'' from Blackbeard, he takes ''survivors'' from the Level 6 cells;


Another question would be that Greenbull has the Forest logia, not Blackbeard so he can't be Forest god. That might be true, but there is also similarities between Greenbull's ability and Blackbeard's darkness ability.

First of all there is an interesting paralels such as;

- Blackbeard stealing Whitebeard's power, meanwhile Greenbull stealing Whitebeard Jr. Weevil.
- Shanks was expecting Blackbeard to show up in Wano, but instead Greenbull shows up.

Then the similarities between the abilities;

- Greenbull drains the energy of his opponent by pulling the liquids from his opponents body.




- Blackbeard pulls everything even the light, drains the energy of his opponent by pulling the everything includes even the energy of Devil fruit abilities so that his opponents can't use Devil fruits.




This could be like Darkness logia being superior logia ability of Forest logia, similar to Magma logia being superior logia ability of Flame logia.

Another interesting thing is, Greenbull pretends to get hurt;


We know Blackbeard toys with his opponents;

At the beginning;


Later;


There is also Garp's final lesson to Koby, where he mentions Koby needs to escape from the forest that full of wild beasts, in that final lesson, the Hachinosu Blackbeard's Island is the forest and his crew are the wild beasts.


Which is better? Moon God or Forest God?
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Luffy as Sun God is obvious like you said.
Shirahoshi as Sea God also fits very well.

Forest God could be Aramaki, but, I think it might be another character.

We need to analyze this mural to see what exactly it's describing.

1st Age = Nika
2nd Age = Joy Boy
3rd Age = Luffy



The First World:

"Within the earth there was fire. Mankind succumbed to greed and touched the forbidden sun."

This references the Mother Flame, IMO. The Mother Flame, the forbidden sun that powers the Ancient Tech like the weapon that destroyed Lulusia. We know the Ancient Kingdom produced Mother Flames. So, they went into the earth, and mined the Mother Flame from within the earth... so, its core?

We can see people going into the earth out of a city, down into what looks like elevators. Going down, they have what looks like discs over their heads. Does this represent halos, the symbol of a person's soul? When the people come back up, they have no halo anymore, but, instead have a "star" in their hands. These stars go back into the cities, and then you can see star within the city, along with the gears inside it. So, mankind gave their light, their souls, to fuel their technology?

"The enslaved prayed, and the Sun God appeared. The Earth God raged, and with its Serpent of Hellfire, shrouded the world in death, and darkness. And they will never meet."

So, the enslaved should be the people trading their Light/Electricity/Soul down into the earth, in order to fuel the technology. "Mankind touching the forbidden sun" and the "Sun God appearing" along with the "Earth God" raging means this: Nika stole the Mother Flame, to try to free the ancient slaves. After, "the Serpent of Hellfire shrouded the world in death and darkness"... this sounds like it could be Imu's Devil Fruit/Demon. Possibly Jorgumandr, considering the Red Line being Imu's territory.

I believe the "They will never meet" is referring to the Gods themselves, as they are the only identified individuals in the Harley.

Since Mankind was being evil, here, and the Earth God raged, I believe the Earth God was triggered by humanities technological corruption, and destroyed mankind to stop it from exploiting the planet.

The Second World:

"Within the Void there was breath. The Forest God tamed demons and the sun spread the fires of war."

This is where it gets interesting, IMO. So, Nika lost, and died in the First World, and we could see stars/light being stolen by technology. "Within the void" refers to the volcanic activity caused by the Serpent of Hellfire's "death and darkness".

Enough smoke/ash is enough to easily destroy an ecosystem. This void was caused by the pollution/natural disasters that came from the Earth God

The Forest God part is trickier... Green Bull stated his Logia was life itself, and that racism was necessary. This aligns Green Bull with "Survival of the Fittest", and "taming Demons" does fit Green Bull, making me think he could be the guy here.

The Sun spread the fires of war is simple: despite the Earth God's destruction, remnants from Nika's time still existed. Weapons using the Mother Flame/Sun spread war through the land.

"Those of the Half Moon dreamed. Those of the moon dreamed."

This is the Kozuki Clan and Minks. Kozuki's symbol is a crescent moon, the Minks go Sulong in full moon. I imagine this is the time the Kozuki Clan and Minks became friends with each other. They Dreamed of the Dawn, of making the world One Piece, of uniting their peoples and opening the world's borders.

"Man killed the sun and and became god, and the sea god stormed. And they will never meet."

So, "Man killed the Sun" refers to Imu defeating Joy Boy, IMO, because Imu, a man from the Nerona family, is now god. The Sun dying makes the Sea God storm: this is clearly Poseidon grieving over Joy Boy. "And they will never meet" cannot refer to Joy Boy and Poseidon, since we know they knew each other. Who is "they"? Individuals? Groups? Entire nations/kingdoms?

The Third World:

"Within the chaos there was emptiness. The inconvenient remnants recall the promised day and fear the voice of the half-moon. The Sun God dances and laughs, guiding the world to its end. The sun returns and brings a new morning. And they will surely meet."

The chaos and emptiness are clearly the void century. It's a period of war and natural disaster that resulted in 100 years of empty history. The inconvenient remnants re the D, and they hear the voices of the Half-Moon: the language of the Kozuki-clan, the Voice of the Poneglyphs.

Luffy Awakens into Gear 5, and dances and laughs, guiding the world to the final war to make the world One Piece. Who will meet? IMO, the Kingdoms of the world, that which are divided by Imu's Red Line. The Earth God's Serpent of Hellfire? It's the Jogrummandr, the World Serpent; it's literally the Red Line. The Red Line is a fucking dragon. Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

Imu, the Earth God, hates humans for corrupting nature and making technology like Vegapunk's Mother Flame, that pollutes. This is shown in Wano; people like Kaido take the beauty of the world, and use Devil Fruits and weapons to destroy it.

Imu doesn't hate humans, Imu hates their corruption, and acts as a purification force to rid the planet of humanity once they become too dangerous. Hence Saturn's: "Humanity is insects: they can always reproduce."

Luffy's freedom is a direct threat to the world, which is why Imu hates it.

"They will surely meet" is the two kingdoms of the world, the Ancient Kingdom and World Government, the Marines and Pirates, the good and the bad; it's about both "sides" of the world becoming ONE PIECE.

Luffy liberates the world by uniting it.



So

Luffy = Sun God
Imu = Earth God
Dragon = Rain God (dude has to do something, holy cannoli)
Shirahoshi = Sea God (She's a Brick.... HOOOOOOOOOOOUSE)
Green Bull = Forest God (could be someone else, we'll see by the end of Elbaph, I think)
Teach = Moon God (the moon affects the tides of the sea, via gravity, and is famous for having both a bright and dark side; Teach use Gravity and Darkness, and his Gura Fruit affects the water, as well)

I think the series will get into more minor gods as things go along, but these should be the biggest ones.

Teach's focus is family and betrayal; I believe Teach was forced to kill his own family to survive, probably in a human hunt. Teach being a child of God Valley, and a Rocks supporter because of it, would be a fascinating character background.

Imagine Teach was saved... by Rocks?

There's a chance Rocks saved Blackbeard from Shamrock's dad, Garling.

God Valley had forests. Teach hates Shanks because he's a Celestial Dragon who chose to be a Pirate, and because his father, Garling, killed his family. Shanks looks just like Garling used to; Teach hates looking at Shanks the same reason Whitebeard did, because Garling is a giant shit-dick cunt.

Teach is one of the people Kuma saved from God Valley

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Holy shit what if Garling made Teach kill his own family? Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Oda's cooking something that's hotter than boiling Oden, daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
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After rereading the second section more, I believe the Forest God controls the Eve Tree and Adam Tree, and Tame Devils is referring to producing Devil Fruit users from the Ancient Kingdom. The Forest God should be an individual who can control these trees. Well... who do we know who can control plants?

Yeah, the Forest God is Green Bull.

He'll probably take over both the Adam Tree and Eve Tree.

If the Eve Tree, which makes Devil Fruits, is dormant, I bet Green Bull could reactivate it.

It's possible there's some twist here, like it's a new character, or it's Usopp, since he's very plant themed, and a Botanist, but, Green Bull is so forest themed, and, let's be honest; what has he really done wrong?

Green Bull didn't say he LIKES prejudice, he just said it breeds stability. Green Bull didn't actually kill anyone, made Shinobu sexy again for a brief spell, and helped heal a shit ton of Wano's ecosystem. IMO he can become a good guy.
 
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World Government's Five Gods
World Government's version of five Gods are nature and environment power. Admirals' devil fruit power represent these five gods and their powers fit well with their respective God titles. In the real world, it makes sense as all destruction predate modern humans are all happened naturally.
In different parts of the world, people different version of their Gods like Shandian used to called a huge human-eating snake The Sun God.

When someone did enough good deeds, he will become a God like Usopp being held as a God in Dressrosa.

Then in Elbaph, Every giant strives to become The Sun God in either good or evil ways.

To become a God, it's either by saving or terrorizing a lot of people.

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Shinto Inspiration

Shinto inspiration has a been big part of One Piece World and has been mentioning for ages, this is for those who don't know.

Garling is a placeholder for now as he is the guy who legit looks like a moon.

Ace/Sabo is the Sun because of the Mera Mera no Mi ability called Dai Enkai which literally looks like a Sun.

Dragon is the Storm as he seems like the only guy associated with the ability.
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Tsukuyomi - Blackbeard
Blackbeard is depicted as Tsukuyomi, God of the Moon because of his darkness power. However, he isn't the God of the Moon before acquires Gura Gura no Mi. The Moon is basically a satellite planet that can creates wave by revolving around the Earth. Gura Gura no Mi creates wave like the Moon does, so his this devil fruit made him a Moon God.

Amaterasu - Luffy?
Luffy is the Dawn Goddess based on his personality. He has been given the characteristic to laugh and dance. Dawn Goddess lure the Sad Sun Goddess out from the cave with his laughter, just like Luffy lite up the mood of his brother Ace who has Mera Mera no Mi, and he awake his another brother Sabo from amnesia and Sabo later inherited Ace will and his Mera Mera no Mi.

Luffy has the Nika devil fruit which is known as the God of the Sun. So he is also the God of the Sun based on the legend. In actuality he doesn't have the power of the Sun like Mera Mera no Mi.

Maybe anyone can become the God of the Sun like all the giants are striving to be. However I don't think that is the reason. In current state, Luffy is not a God of the Sun because of the absence of The Sun. The Elbaph's mural hinted that God of the Sun and The Sun are two different entities, and Shinto's reference also tell us so. Luffy is just liberator who will lead The Sun into the world of One Piece.

The key word mentioned in the mural is they killed The Sun possibly means it is something alive. How could The Sun be alive? We have Big Mom's Prometheus, a fire ball that has her soul. Vegapunk might have discovered the reason a dead Kuma is still conscious, it might have because Kuma's soul never actually left his body. This could be why Vegapunk's pseudo eternal energy is a failure because it lacks a soul, in other word Sabo.

Also, Vegapunk said the eternal energy somehow linked to the treasure One Piece. Based on the pseudo eternal energy that Vegapunk created resemble a flame, Mera Mera no Mi being the linked to The Sun, and Blackbeard wanted the Mera Mera no Mi which he failed to acquire it twice seems to tell us that Mera Mera no Mi has far bigger connection to treasure One Piece. You will wonder why the Mera Mera no Mi is so important if the power is inferior to Imu, Magma, Darkness, or even the mother flame. The answer is probably Mera Mera no Mi needs a power up. In order to do it, Mera Mera no Mi user will become the new eternal energy with the help of ancient technology. Sabo who is now having the devil fruit will play an important role in the end game. For Luffy to become God of the Sun, he needs Sabo and the treasure One Piece.

Susanoo - Imu
Imu has a high chance that he is the Susanoo, the God of the Storm/Sea. But now he is no longer God of the Storm because Dragon left Marine. Even though without the storm power, Imu is still the God of the Sea because he can makes the sea rage with the ancient weapon.
Susanoo slays a eight-headed serpent and he obtains a sword from the serpent that will become one of the imperial regalia to rule over Japan. I think Imu probably did a parallel here by slaying a serpent during void century and he obtains the serpent's power. He has a sword on his side which probably gives him a power up. The additional power might be what Imu needs to kill The Sun and ascend to the throne. Without The Sun, Joyboy lost the war.
The Ancient Weapon used on Lulusia is just like a crazy storm, it creates dark cloud above the sky and rain down lasers which results in huge hole and rise of sea level. Imu and God of the Sea seems to go hand in hand.

TL;DR
Blackbeard has Gura Gura no Mi to become God of the Moon without actually having a Moon like the counterpart does (The Sun, Storm).
Luffy needs The Sun to become God of the Sun.
Imu lost the storm power but still has Ancient Weapon to become God of the Sea.

Hope this makes sense, have fun reading.

https://mythopedia.com/topics/amaterasu
https://kimurakami.com/blogs/japan-blog/susanoo
https://oldworldgods.com/japanese/tsukuyomi/
https://kimurakami.com/blogs/japan-blog/susanoo
Sorry but I don't see how Blackbeard associated to the God of the Forest as he doesn't in anyway depicted as one.
 
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D. Plant said:
World Government's Five Gods
World Government's version of five Gods are nature and environment power. Admirals' devil fruit power represent these five gods and their powers fit well with their respective God titles. In the real world, it makes sense as all destruction predate modern humans are all happened naturally.
In different parts of the world, people different version of their Gods like Shandian used to called a huge human-eating snake The Sun God.

When someone did enough good deeds, he will become a God like Usopp being held as a God in Dressrosa.

Then in Elbaph, Every giant strives to become The Sun God in either good or evil ways.

To become a God, it's either by saving or terrorizing a lot of people.

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Shinto Inspiration

Shinto inspiration has a been big part of One Piece World and has been mentioning for ages, this is for those who don't know.

Garling is a placeholder for now as he is the guy who legit looks like a moon.

Ace/Sabo is the Sun because of the Mera Mera no Mi ability called Dai Enkai which literally looks like a Sun.

Dragon is the Storm as he seems like the only guy associated with the ability.
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Tsukuyomi - Blackbeard
Blackbeard is depicted as Tsukuyomi, God of the Moon because of his darkness power. However, he isn't the God of the Moon before acquires Gura Gura no Mi. The Moon is basically a satellite planet that can creates wave by revolving around the Earth. Gura Gura no Mi creates wave like the Moon does, so his this devil fruit made him a Moon God.

Amaterasu - Luffy?
Luffy is the Dawn Goddess based on his personality. He has been given the characteristic to laugh and dance. Dawn Goddess lure the Sad Sun Goddess out from the cave with his laughter, just like Luffy lite up the mood of his brother Ace who has Mera Mera no Mi, and he awake his another brother Sabo from amnesia and Sabo later inherited Ace will and his Mera Mera no Mi.

Luffy has the Nika devil fruit which is known as the God of the Sun. So he is also the God of the Sun based on the legend. In actuality he doesn't have the power of the Sun like Mera Mera no Mi.

Maybe anyone can become the God of the Sun like all the giants are striving to be. However I don't think that is the reason. In current state, Luffy is not a God of the Sun because of the absence of The Sun. The Elbaph's mural hinted that God of the Sun and The Sun are two different entities, and Shinto's reference also tell us so. Luffy is just liberator who will lead The Sun into the world of One Piece.

The key word mentioned in the mural is they killed The Sun possibly means it is something alive. How could The Sun be alive? We have Big Mom's Prometheus, a fire ball that has her soul. Vegapunk might have discovered the reason a dead Kuma is still conscious, it might have because Kuma's soul never actually left his body. This could be why Vegapunk's pseudo eternal energy is a failure because it lacks a soul, in other word Sabo.

Also, Vegapunk said the eternal energy somehow linked to the treasure One Piece. Based on the pseudo eternal energy that Vegapunk created resemble a flame, Mera Mera no Mi being the linked to The Sun, and Blackbeard wanted the Mera Mera no Mi which he failed to acquire it twice seems to tell us that Mera Mera no Mi has far bigger connection to treasure One Piece. You will wonder why the Mera Mera no Mi is so important if the power is inferior to Imu, Magma, Darkness, or even the mother flame. The answer is probably Mera Mera no Mi needs a power up. In order to do it, Mera Mera no Mi user will become the new eternal energy with the help of ancient technology. Sabo who is now having the devil fruit will play an important role in the end game. For Luffy to become God of the Sun, he needs Sabo and the treasure One Piece.

Susanoo - Imu
Imu has a high chance that he is the Susanoo, the God of the Storm/Sea. But now he is no longer God of the Storm because Dragon left Marine. Even though without the storm power, Imu is still the God of the Sea because he can makes the sea rage with the ancient weapon.
Susanoo slays a eight-headed serpent and he obtains a sword from the serpent that will become one of the imperial regalia to rule over Japan. I think Imu probably did a parallel here by slaying a serpent during void century and he obtains the serpent's power. He has a sword on his side which probably gives him a power up. The additional power might be what Imu needs to kill The Sun and ascend to the throne. Without The Sun, Joyboy lost the war.
The Ancient Weapon used on Lulusia is just like a crazy storm, it creates dark cloud above the sky and rain down lasers which results in huge hole and rise of sea level. Imu and God of the Sea seems to go hand in hand.

TL;DR
Blackbeard has Gura Gura no Mi to become God of the Moon without actually having a Moon like the counterpart does (The Sun, Storm).
Luffy needs The Sun to become God of the Sun.
Imu lost the storm power but still has Ancient Weapon to become God of the Sea.

Hope this makes sense, have fun reading.

https://mythopedia.com/topics/amaterasu
https://kimurakami.com/blogs/japan-blog/susanoo
https://oldworldgods.com/japanese/tsukuyomi/
https://kimurakami.com/blogs/japan-blog/susanoo
Sorry but I don't see how Blackbeard associated to the God of the Forest as he doesn't in anyway depicted as one.
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Who are Earth god and forest god though? Don't think logia DFs have anything to do with it. They are nature powers.

Luffy is sun god but his power is not fire for example. So forest god most likely doesn't mean forest control.
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Forest bring demons can be metaphor for imu creating monsters by giving others powers like to gorosei.
 
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MonsterKaido said:
Who are Earth god and forest god though? Don't think logia DFs have anything to do with it. They are nature powers.

Luffy is sun god but his power is not fire for example. So forest god most likely doesn't mean forest control.
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Forest bring demons can be metaphor for imu creating monsters by giving others powers like to gorosei.
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I don't know the correct answer honestly. I think Forest God and Earth God more or less have something to do with trees and earth respectively. It's likely an external power than self owned power like someone partner with Greenbull who has the forest devil fruit.

I think Oda pull some Susanoo legends on Imu. He probably slayed one of the Forest or Earth God and gain the power of the dead God to rule the world.
 
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