Free speech vs Hate speech

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#21
I'm just giving people a chance to improve their own understanding, I don't actually care whether they agree with me or not.
You keep saying you dont care yet you come all the time defending your views

Even now you do it. If you trully didnt care you wouldnt bother defending and explaining yourself so much

You wont get shit in life by lying to yourself
 
#22
You keep saying you dont care yet you come all the time defending your views

Even now you do it. If you trully didnt care you wouldnt bother defending and explaining yourself so much

You wont get shit in life by lying to yourself
You just have a hard time understanding someone can make an effort towards something while remaining detached from the final outcome, you got some growing up to do.
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#23
You just have a hard time understanding someone can make an effort towards something while remaining detached from the final outcome, you got some growing up to do.
Nah, i believe you deluded yourself into believing that

You say you are detached from final outcome yet here you say
I'm just giving people a chance to improve their own understanding
Meaning you have a attachment to a final goal since you work towards it and you express a desire for it
 
#27


Just as @RayanOO said, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of reprisal.

If you intend to humiliate, or incite hatred against a group or a class of persons on the basis of race, religion, skin color sexual identity, gender identity, ethnicity, disability, or national origin; its deemed as hate speech. Do not pass go, do not collect $100, just get ready to receive some form of repercussion.
That's all well and good but how do you determine someone's intention to humiliate or incite hatred? This is what I'm talking about, it's very difficult to draw a clear line, sometimes you need to discuss sensitive topics, aslong as you remain respectful there shouldn't be any problems.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#30
Didn’t plenty of Poles collaborate tho? Maybe thats what they mean
Sure.

Although I doubt you would have the guts to disobey AK's orders with a rifle close up to your head.

Can't judge people on this one. Some didn't have a choice.

But the fact you don't know is that for example. ( I know this from my dead now great grandma ).

They used to order caught Poles to help work on Auschwitz prison and later after they weren't needed anymore they just threw them to the gas chambers.

War was terrible on the entire planet but I wouldn't lie to you if I say that we got it the worse possible way...
Post automatically merged:

Every conquered nation had Nazi supporters
Quisling in Norway
Vichy in France
Pavelić in Yugoslavia
Mosley in UK

Poland isnt any different.
That's also true.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#31
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences.
The way people forget this is just wild; like, yeah, you can say whatever you want, but a) that same right extends to everyone else around you, b) when you say something and all the other people in the conversation recoil, you’re still an asshole even if you’re within your rights, and c) these pussies get so bent out of shape about not being able to hurt and insult anyone who disagrees with them and suddenly act like victims without recourse, which just makes them feel more “oppressed,” it’s as textbook as it is pathological. This Yubel freak clearly thinks only he should get to say what he wants, I’ve seen him crumble at the slightest deviation from his obsolete, offensive views. He doesn’t care about freedom of speech or thinking, he’s just a gigantic baby who’s never heard a dissenting opinion in his real life.
 
#33
Nah, i believe you deluded yourself into believing that

You say you are detached from final outcome yet here you say

Meaning you have a attachment to a final goal since you work towards it and you express a desire for it
Yes, giving people a chance as in throwing them a rope to pull themselves up.

You think in absolutes, that's a sign of a lack of maturity, I'm done discussing this topic.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#36
I didn’t accuse’em of being different, I’m just saying I’ve seen plenty of articles in the news focused on that topic.
Also one more thing.

Poles risked their lives to save Jews during the war and likewise.

No matter what BBC or whatever retarded television in your country would tell you. We were deeply connected with the Jews.

Part of the reason why storm on the Poland was bigger than everywhere else was because Hitler knew that Jews built a lot of relationships with the Polish people.

The most popular thing during the war in Poland aside from killing innocent civilians ofc was "Jew hunting".
 

SmokedOut

Life Is Good ✌️
#37
That's all well and good but how do you determine someone's intention to humiliate or incite hatred? This is what I'm talking about, it's very difficult to draw a clear line, sometimes you need to discuss sensitive topics, aslong as you remain respectful there shouldn't be any problems.
Everyone SHOULD have enough common sense to know what the intent behind someone's words are. If you have to "read between the lines" the intent isn't always there or obvious; however, if there is blatancy associated with a person's actions or remarks it should be a no-brainer.
 
#39
The way people forget this is just wild; like, yeah, you can say whatever you want, but a) that same right extends to everyone else around you, b) when you say something and all the other people in the conversation recoil, you’re still an asshole even if you’re within your rights, and c) these pussies get so bent out of shape about not being able to hurt and insult anyone who disagrees with them and suddenly act like victims without recourse, which just makes them feel more “oppressed,” it’s as textbook as it is pathological. This Yubel freak clearly thinks only he should get to say what he wants, I’ve seen him crumble at the slightest deviation from his obsolete, offensive views. He doesn’t care about freedom of speech or thinking, he’s just a gigantic baby who’s never heard a dissenting opinion in his real life.
Everytime you say something about me you just project exactly what you do, probably no one ever gave you a dissenting opinion in real life and you think your little safe space equals reality, well I have news for you, any bubble will one day pop.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#40
If Ukraine didn't betray us during World War 2 we could have stopped the tragedy that happened. Ukraine decided to side with the Russians and now they see how Putin and oligarchs treat them.



Yugoslavia is stuff for the history books. @DynaMight dunno how good/bad ur relationships are now with the former Yugoslavia countries but what you fought for together was amazing.

We could've done similar thing if Ukraine didn't fuck us over.
 
Top