Character Discussion Fujitora destroys both Garp's and Garling's characters

[hedera__helix]

I think Garp’s character was pretty awful even before Fujitora

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All this insecurity over Garling and his newfound importance / strength just bc Fujitora ain’t worth shit and his background story was reduced to an SBS footnote

You’re hilarious if you think Fujitora won’t be more narratively relevant than fuckass Garling lol

 

[MonsterKaido]

Agree with garp point.

As for garling, it obvious admirals are valuable source of power for them. Even among HKs there won't more than 3 top tiers and gorosei don't like do work themselves.

So unless admirals outright betray them more directly, they are willing to turn blind eye.

 

[soupongo]

Agree with garp point.

As for garling, it obvious admirals are valuable source of power for them. Even among HKs there won't more than 3 top tiers and gorosei don't like do work themselves.

So unless admirals outright betray them more directly, they are willing to turn blind eye.

What is more direct then helping the literal revolutionary army in an unprecedented invasion of Mariejois?

 

[The White Crane]

Fujitora vs Garp

• Garp is afraid of Admiral rank because he wouldn't be able to resist CD orders due to his weak will
  Meanwhile Fujitora still opposes CDs even with an Admiral rank
• Garp never went against WG directly, just did nothing but complain about them impotently
  meanwhile Fujitora abolished Warlord system, embarassed WG in front of whole world by blaming them, helped Revolutionaries and rescued slaves right under their nose.

Fujitora vs Garling

Garling:
"Anyone who protects scum is lower than the scum they protect"

meanwhile Garling is afraid to punish Fujitora who not only helped the revs and freed the slaves right under Garling's nose in his own home

Not only abolished the WG's warlord system
but also humiliated WG during worldwide broadcast, made them take the blame and apologized to those "scum" on their behalf

And what does Garling do to punish all of these Fujitora's actions? Nothing, because he's afraid of Fujitora.
He can only hunt chained up citizen slaves and execute fodder CDs.

Fujitora is just a GOATed Marine tbh.

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Agree with garp point.

As for garling, it obvious admirals are valuable source of power for them. Even among HKs there won't more than 3 top tiers and gorosei don't like do work themselves.

So unless admirals outright betray them more directly, they are willing to turn blind eye.

3? You think there is even one top tier in HK?

 

[MonsterKaido]

Fujitora is just a GOATed Marine tbh.

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3? You think there is even one top tier in HK?

Garling was and shamrock is yes.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Been saying it for years, Garp is proof that One Piss fans just use being subservient to the CDs to emptily shit on Admirals, the fact that these morons Stan Garp is proof that they don’t actually dislike the Celestial Dragons, they just enjoy hating on the Admirals.

Garp did more to protect the Celestial Dragons at God Valley then any Admiral ever did to protect them combined. I’m not sure if Oda is writing Garp as this big of a hypocritical idiot on purpose or if Oda is genuinely satirizing his own retarded fanbase.

 

[soupongo]

Garp did more to protect the Celestial Dragons at God Valley then any Admiral ever did to protect them combined. I’m not sure if Oda is writing Garp as this big of a hypocritical idiot on purpose or if Oda is genuinely satirizing his own retarded fanbase.

I think it´s very deliberate that the people who saved the celestial dragons at god valley are from the D clan.

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Overall though, I think Oda ended up making the WG way more evil then they were Pre time skip. Generally pre time skip people could buy the ¨good marine¨ meme but after Egghead it´s not a good look tbh

 

[The White Crane]

Garling was and shamrock is yes.

That's acceptable, since neither Garling nor Shamrock will be Luffy's crew enemies. If there is more top tiers than them in HK, then the SHs will need a crap ton of PIS and help to beat them in the Final War.

 

[kurwa]

He even refused to do anything after he launched Birdcage

Why didn't he go beat doffy himself.

Yikes.... maybe it's time to read the story instead of looking pretty pictures, zorosmuck?

 

[smallpecker84]

I hard disagree that Garp refused the rank of admiral because he would not be able to "resist" orders as an admiral. He refused the rank of admiral because he on principle did not want to obey the celestial dragons in the first place. It is not like the CDs have these absolute mind control powers over marines, especially Garp who is a D (who are time and time again shown to be strong-willed characters). Garp refused the admiral rank multple times because he was unwilling to be the CD's dog. Better for him to be a vice-admiral and have more automony. I won't pretend he is not a hypocrite for still supporting the WG, who we all know to be an evil organization as evidenced by the conduct of those at the top of the WG hierarchy. Also isnt Furjorita an overly-dramatic dumbass who intentionally blinded himself? And futhermore according to a recent SBS, isnt he also a war criminal? Xd? And Garling is not even worth mentioning, he is the exact same archetype as the other Elders, SNORE.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Garling was like:

 

[MarineHQ]

Garp may have ignored a genocide on random minorities every Sunday for decades, but don't worry he did he say he doesn't like CD's so that evens it out.

 

[Juanpiz]

Garp may have ignored a genocide on random minorities every Sunday for decades, but don't worry he did he say he doesn't like CD's so that evens it out.

And he Laughed and ate crackers

 

[MarineHQ]

And he Laughed and ate crackers

Occasionally he was also present beating the thugs that tried to stop said genocide

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[kekaro]

Garp just cares about fighting (Roger)
There is a myriad of characters like that in one piece, some of them very well liked here
Most people that say he doesnt care that he doesnt use his power and using it to do good or something are capping hard

 

[SakazOuki]

Garp was scared shitless for his life, Sengoku even threatened him
One wrong move and Garp is getting dogwalked by Kizaru or Akainu
He had to resort to crying

 

[a_fan]

Have we heard what happen to Fujitora after the Reverie incident? Think we only know what happened to Greenbull who went straight to Wano alone then arrested Weevil in Marco’s hometown after that.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Garp created sword while bums like aokiji kizaru and kuzan were the dogs of the celestials

I didnt know aokiji and kuzan are different characters

And there's no proof yet that garp created sword

 

[TheLastBerserker]

If Garp actively worked with seemingly Sengoku and Tsuru to make Sword then he knew the system need to be reformed but needed actually new age marines he could believe in, potentially leading to a marine civil war or massive split off. If not that old man is cooked lmao.
Also I don't think Sword members can become admirals its way too inherently contradictory.