You’d consider Aokiji to be the rhm of Sengoku, didn’t turn out well.
It is exactly because he runs his own agenda that puts him above Kizaru. Story wise Fuji has all the advantage.
Honestly wouldn't mind Fujitora vs Law but Fujitora vs Zoro is equally as good.
That just speaks volume on how great Fujiotora's fruit is in term of power and aesthetic
Akainu is essentially more ambitious version of Sengoku. While Fujitora is a more ambitious version of Garp.
You have the Ambitious Fleet Admiral, and the Wild Dog under him that doesn't obey, which is what defined Sengoku-Garp's relationship, which is also what defines Akainu-Fujitora's. And despite that dynamic the fleet admiral & the wild dog in both of the duos are close friends.
I get where you’re coming from, they are both a mix of Garp and Sengoku, but my main point was concerning the powerlevel. Akainu’s portrayal is on a different league from any admiral. Fujitora’s sense of justice is an enhanced version of Sengoku, essentially he has Garp’s carefree mentality to carry out this justice.
Sakazuki on the other hand is as passionate as Garp but on the complete opposite side of the spectrum, certainly learned a thing or two from Sengoku. He saved the navy from a very humiliating defeat in mf, not only did he single-handedly achieve the win condition, but also dealt the mortal blow to Wb and pushed back the WBPs on his own. He’s without a doubt the hero of his generation.
I get where you’re coming from, they are both a mix of Garp and Sengoku, but my main point was concerning the powerlevel. Akainu’s portrayal is on a different league from any admiral. Fujitora’s sense of justice is an enhanced version of Sengoku, essentially he has Garp’s carefree mentality to carry out this justice.
Sakazuki on the other hand is as passionate as Garp but on the complete opposite side of the spectrum, certainly learned a thing or two from Sengoku. He saved the navy from a very humiliating defeat in mf, not only did he single-handedly achieve the win condition, but also dealt the mortal blow to Wb and pushed back the WBPs on his own. He’s without a doubt the hero of his generation.
You're misrepresenting the justices here. Sengoku's justice is "reigning justice", Fujitora's is "moral/humane justice", and Akainu's is "thorough justice" (not "absolute justice" which is just the main justice motto for marines as a whole). If you're talking about in-manga viewpoints then Sakazuki's is essentially an extreme version of Sengoku's viewpoints. Both believe in needing the warlords even though they hate them. Both are obedient soldiers even if they might have some disagreements with the higher ups. Both are willing to voice out their opinions against their higher ups when need be but still do what's best for the World Government's viewpoint. Both heavily care about "face". Ie, Sengoku manipulating Alabasta info pre-TS, Akainu who would've done the same for Dressrosa had Fujitora not flat out exposed it. Akainu believes in the "Three powers balance", just like Sengoku did.
Fujitora's justice is completely new, it did not exist in the Marines before. This is why the Marines are shocked when Fujitora says, it's the number of people who we ought to protect that matter first not the number of people we need to eliminate. And then of course telling them straight up to disobey the World Government and follow his own orders. Fujitora does not believe in the "Three power balance", he believes in complete marine independence. Which is why he went to Vegapunk to check up on how SSG was doing.
Passion:
Are you implying Sengoku had less passion than Garp did? Sengoku in his peak was going after the likes of Shiki, Roger, Whitebeard all by himself. Wanting Garp to stay the fuck away from people he'd go after. He had the passion to become the Fleet Admiral, just like Sakazuki did. He climbed his rank being an obedient soldier, just like Sakazuki did. He followed the orders he was given and made strategical choices to accomplish the missions he was given to their best, just like Sakazuki did.
So the passion part is weird. Especially when you're comparing it to Fujitora, who's shown the most outrageous ambition so far that's matched only by Dragon from the Revolutionary army. Which Oda showcased very clearly, when he had a Vice Admiral shiver and fall down just from his words.
The man is so passionate in what he does, that he thought of the whole "abolish the warlords" after Smoker told him what went down in Alabasta (which was shortly before Dressorsa and after Punk Hazard), and then from there he carried it without giving a single fuck about the World Government or Akainu, lol. That's next level passion. Crazy thing is we still don't know his true goal!
Exaggerations:
- "Single-handedly", yea that's not how single-handedly works. The Marines were called in to take care of the WB commanders so he could continue chasing after Ace & Luffy, while Aokiji and Kizaru were dealing with other pirates. He simply was the primary one on the offensive against Ace and such. And again this goes back to Sengoku, who used Akainu as the one to carry out the plan. This just builds a bigger connection with him and Sengoku, not with him and Garp.
- "mortal blow to WB", if it wasn't Akainu, somebody else would've been the one to face off against Whitebeard, Sengoku himself was ready to come down had it been needed, and trust me the result would've been the same. The Buddha shockwaving off Whitebeard's head the moment he gets the heart attack.
- Yes he pushed the WB back on his own, Kuzan, other VAs, Smoker, Kizaru and etc were just having tea time. Or half of the forces that Sengoku divided into dealing with the Whitebeard pirates were just having tea time. Come on now, you can't be serious.
Akainu was simply the key offensive focus from the Marines side, which is in part due to other major forces being kept busy with things on the side. But nobody is going to call him "hero of his generation" for that. It was a one-sided war from the start, where the marine HQ low-diff'd the Whitebeard pirates.
Powerlevel:
I think if you had said "different level" it would've been more digestible, but even then not really right.
Akainu & Kizaru:
- Both entered the Marines together, and BOTH were labeled as "monsters"
- Since then both have risen in the ranks together, difference being one had desire to be a leader and the other didn't (Mihawk-Shanks situation).
- Kizaru went on par in CQC with Rayleigh, who had been compared to Whitebeard by Garp just before that fight, and ofc Kizaru had the upper hand.
- Akainu went equal with Whitebeard after he had been stabbed by Squardo, and then finally gained an advantage when Whitebeard got his heart attack.
Their portrayal seems to be of the same level, as far as I can tell.
Akainu & Aokiji:
- Aokiji put good amount of scars on him
- Aokiji took him to 10 days, while chipping his ear as well.
They're also portrayal of two people on the same level.
Akainu & GreenBull:
- GB has the same "Monster" hype that Kizaru, Akainu, Kuzan have as marines.
- If we go by the Chinese Zodiac, GB's alias is based on the 3rd most powerful animal, after Dragon & Tiger.. the OX.
- GB was also willing to go after an alliance that could take on two emperors. Then backs off from the threat of Shanks + entire crew.
- GB had that moment with Shanks' haki.. but I ask, how did Akainu look any better?
Akainu when Shanks flexed just some of his haki on him:
GreenBull when Shanks went all out with his haki on him:
Doesn't look like Akainu has "leagues" better portrayal than him powerlevel wise.
Akainu & Fujitora:
- Fujitora's alias is based on the 2nd most powerful animal of the Zodiac after the Dragon.
- Fujitora since joining the marines, which is about little over a year, has had more worldwide impact than Akainu had as an admiral in his full career, from what we know of the two.
- Akainu tried to talk down to Fujitora, and Fujitora countered him back hard, which left the other marines shook, making Akainu switch the topic. Chapter 793: "Tiger and Dog" dedicated to their conversation, sounds like two equals.
- Akainu then post-reverie says Fuji must be happy but he wanted to keep the warlords, Fujitora puts him down saying that's only because he's never had experience the suffering under them, to which Akainu reacts with "!!!!", and then Fujitora tells the fleet admiral to believe in the special science group of the marines. Conversation seemed to be of equals.
- Fujitora's ambition is related to challenging the World Government and reforms, Akainu simply follows and tries to carry out the established rules and regulations. He doesn't lose to Akainu in, willpower, passion, or ambition.
Doesn't look like Akainu has any better portrayal than him powerlevel wise.
A lot of things regarding Akainu's "powerlevel portrayal" are basically things people have in their headcanon about him. Like him being Luffy's big opponent after Blackbeard. Or him being the strongest present marine, which has never been stated or showcased. Or various other things that people add on. Not that he's the only character people do this to, there are other top tiers as well.
But yea I mean you can say he has better portrayal than the others powerlevel wise, but leagues or level above would be a giant reach.
Also, great thread on Fujitora, I agree with the premise he's big time underrated.
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