Controversial Funniest part is...Zoro fans are largely correct in their narrative. They simply lack patience.

[Adamxero]

Tbf, every SH will be the best in their role. Zoro's role is not swordsman, but fighter/warrior. Thus, can you really blame people for thinking Zoro will be the best fighter EoS. Though one can argue he will be the best fighter if you exclude captains which is a different role.

And tbh the main reason people wank Zoro is not simply because they believe Zoro will necessarily be the strongest, but more so that people struggle to imagine him losing in any context. But that's how the character has been written since OP's inception, can't really blame people for that. Oda wanks him heavily; only Shanks and Oden are wanked more.

Luffy loses literally all the time. Oda is fine making him look terrible, but he usually tries to make Zoro look good, which gives people a false perception of his strength.

The only rival of Luffy's that may be stronger than EoS Zoro is Blackbeard. Kid and Law don't stand a chance at this point. Further to Blackbeard, I can only see Imu, Sabo and Luffy potentially being above Zoro. And that's only if Sabo gets ACoC.

Zoro doesn't lose because he fights weaker people than Luffy.

When Zoro battled Enel for instance he got beat. Like we don't expect Zoro to struggle to much against Lucci because we seen Luffy neg diff him while Kizaru on the other hand could easily hand Luffy or Zoro 1 on 2 L's.

The argument Zoro would be the strongest EoS would be sound if Luffy used a sword like Roger or Shanks but Oda purposefully made Luffy a DF and hakiman no swords for this reason so Zoro by default isn't stronger. Luffy's dream is literally freedom and in order to secure that for himself and his crew he has to be stronger than everyone to protect it.

 

[Cruxroux]

Zoro doesn't lose because he fights weaker people than Luffy.

Zoro does better than Luffy with Luffy opponents.
Zoro was the MVP on Rooftop. Luffy passed out and got carried around , Next moment everyone left him alone and bro was dropping off the island.

Zoro is barely pushed to extremes in his fights.
Pre time skip , it was only Kaku and Mr1 who pushed him.
Post time skip , only Kaido did. Fight with king was him just mastering Enma and Adcoc. He already had a time clock over his head due to mink medicine , he was gonna pass out regardless.

 

[Adamxero]

Zoro does better than Luffy with Luffy opponents.
Zoro was the MVP on Rooftop. Luffy passed out and got carried around , Next moment everyone left him alone and bro was dropping off the island.

Zoro is barely pushed to extremes in his fights.
Pre time skip , it was only Kaku and Mr1 who pushed him.
Post time skip , only Kaido did. Fight with king was him just mastering Enma and Adcoc. He already had a time clock over his head due to mink medicine , he was gonna pass out regardless.

Luffy was the main target of the attacks on the rooftop. He was the MVP to you but Luffy attacked him the most.

King definitely pushed Zoro. He got hit several times by King in the fight. If Luffy had unlocked AdvCoC during Katakuri fight he'd have negged Katakuri and King.

Oda is constantly telling us Zoro is not that guy Luffy is by having Luffy finish these fights

 

[HeroesNZ]

Zoro doesn't lose because he fights weaker people than Luffy.

When Zoro battled Enel for instance he got beat. Like we don't expect Zoro to struggle to much against Lucci because we seen Luffy neg diff him while Kizaru on the other hand could easily hand Luffy or Zoro 1 on 2 L's.

The argument Zoro would be the strongest EoS would be sound if Luffy used a sword like Roger or Shanks but Oda purposefully made Luffy a DF and hakiman no swords for this reason so Zoro by default isn't stronger. Luffy's dream is literally freedom and in order to secure that for himself and his crew he has to be stronger than everyone to protect it.

Even when Zoro fights people above his paygrade Oda still makes him look good.

On Dressrosa he pushed back Fujitora with one sword.

On Wano he performed the best on the rooftop prior to ACoC, including Luffy and his main rivals. Kaido didn't even beat him 1v1, he passed out after blocking a combined attack from 2 Yonko and still managed to inflict the most damage.

When Zoro fought Enel, he got bodied and that's why Luffy was so surprised when he found him. He couldn't believe that someone did that to Zoro, and let's not pretend like Luffy wouldn't also have gotten bodied if he wasn't made of rubber.

When Zoro fought Arlong he made Arlong piss himself. When he fought Monet he made Monet shit herself. When he fought Hody it was fodderisation. When he fought Hyouzou he fodderised a stronger version of someone Luffy called strong. Now he's about to fight Lucci and we'll see what happens.

Point is, Zoro usually does pretty well if not even better than Luffy against his opponents when he fights them, so saying he only looks good cos he fights weaker opponents doesn't really hold up. He looks good because Oda has Zoro as the token 'badass' so god forbid he ever looks bad. Which creates an unrealistic perception of Zoro's strength and why people end up saying foolishness like ZKK.

Oda has Luffy finish the tough fights but he rarely pushes Zoro to extreme-diff. There's always some reason Zoro can't fight Luffy's opponents in the end - either he'll get removed from the fight by his own opponent, he'll be in the completely wrong location or he'll be nerfed. More often than not, Zoro's "not that guy" because he's not the MC, not necessarily because he lacks the strength. Same reason Sabo didn't finish off Doflamingo on Dressrosa.

And whenever Luffy's about to do some dumb shit like turn back and fight Fujitora or punch a CD, Zoro was right there behind him.

 

[Cruxroux]

Luffy was the main target of the attacks on the rooftop. He was the MVP to you but Luffy attacked him the most.

Attacking is pointless if Zoro doing more damage than Luffy combined on rooftop.

King definitely pushed Zoro. He got hit several times by King in the fight. If Luffy had unlocked AdvCoC during Katakuri fight he'd have negged Katakuri and King.

Luffy dies against King even if he has Adcoc. By the time he figures out how Lunarian hax works , King would kill him by then.

Oda is constantly telling us Zoro is not that guy Luffy is by having Luffy finish these fights

Making him die 3 times against a single opponent who's lifting a fuckin island on his back , Exhausted , Fighting multiple enemy. Isn't telling he's the guy. In fact it's telling he isn't the guy either.
Fresh Zoro Without Broken Bones , Pushes Kaido to G4 Adcoc Luffy. With KoH and Adcoc it's G5 level. 🤷

 

[Peroroncino]

Even when Zoro fights people above his paygrade Oda still makes him look good.

On Dressrosa he pushed back Fujitora with one sword.

On Wano he performed the best on the rooftop prior to ACoC, including Luffy and his main rivals. Kaido didn't even beat him 1v1, he passed out after blocking a combined attack from 2 Yonko and still managed to inflict the most damage.

When Zoro fought Enel, he got bodied and that's why Luffy was so surprised when he found him. He couldn't believe that someone did that to Zoro, and let's not pretend like Luffy wouldn't also have gotten bodied if he wasn't made of rubber.

When Zoro fought Arlong he made Arlong piss himself. When he fought Monet he made Monet shit herself. When he fought Hody it was fodderisation. When he fought Hyouzou he fodderised a stronger version of someone Luffy called strong. Now he's about to fight Lucci and we'll see what happens.

Point is, Zoro usually does pretty well if not even better than Luffy against his opponents when he fights them, so saying he only looks good cos he fights weaker opponents doesn't really hold up. He looks good because Oda has Zoro as the token 'badass' so god forbid he ever looks bad. Which creates an unrealistic perception of Zoro's strength and why people end up saying foolishness like ZKK.

Oda has Luffy finish the tough fights but he rarely pushes Zoro to extreme-diff. There's always some reason Zoro can't fight Luffy's opponents in the end - either he'll get removed from the fight by his own opponent, he'll be in the completely wrong location or he'll be nerfed.

Dont forget whiskey peak where Luffy agrees that he doesnt know who is stronger between him and Zoro,even tho its obviously Luffy

 

[kumae]

Stop, Zoro's role is canonically 'Fighter', not 'Fighter who uses swords':

Spoiler

Idk what the purpose of your post is.

Post wano is the swordsman of the crew or swordmaster because at the end everyone are fighters

 

[Jika]

Oh man, its like the delusion never stops growing.

Will Zoro become strongest swordsman eos? Yes

Is Zoro going to surpass Law? Possibly, if you believe Law is a swordsman and Law doesn't have the same ambitions as Luffy/Kidd then I can totally see it.

Is Zoro going to surpass Kidd? No. There's always been a clear difference in portrayal from the moment KIdd was first introduced in the story and Oda has maintained that consistently.

 

[Durableguy]

Oh man, its like the delusion never stops growing.

Will Zoro become strongest swordsman eos? Yes

Is Zoro going to surpass Law? Possibly, if you believe Law is a swordsman and Law doesn't have the same ambitions as Luffy/Kidd then I can totally see it.

Is Zoro going to surpass Kidd? No. There's always been a clear difference in portrayal from the moment KIdd was first introduced in the story and Oda has maintained that consistently.

 

[zorovsanji]

Oh man, its like the delusion never stops growing.

Will Zoro become strongest swordsman eos? Yes

Is Zoro going to surpass Law? Possibly, if you believe Law is a swordsman and Law doesn't have the same ambitions as Luffy/Kidd then I can totally see it.

Is Zoro going to surpass Kidd? No. There's always been a clear difference in portrayal from the moment KIdd was first introduced in the story and Oda has maintained that consistently.

Oda self inserts falls under mihawk and eventually Zoro which means Zoro is his fav so good luck betting on kidd being stronger than him.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Zoro is barely pushed to extremes in his fights.
Pre time skip , it was only Kaku and Mr1 who pushed him.

 

[Durableguy]

Holy shit I laughed

 

[M944]

Those are neg diff or not even fights

King pushed him to extreme diff, Daz too and arguably Kaku
Rest of Time he has been destroyed or fight weakling

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Luffy dies against King even if he has Adcoc. By the time he figures out how Lunarian hax works , King would kill him by then.

How? Luffy has better haki, better fruit, awakened mythical zoan and got hit by SEVERAL fire blasts from kaido with little to no damage.

How is king, a guy with MEDIOCRE haki, non conqueror, non awakened ancient zoan supposed to do something that kaido which is superior to king on EVERYTHING couldnt???

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Attacking is pointless if Zoro doing more damage than Luffy combined on rooftop.



Luffy dies against King even if he has Adcoc. By the time he figures out how Lunarian hax works , King would kill him by then.



Making him die 3 times against a single opponent who's lifting a fuckin island on his back , Exhausted , Fighting multiple enemy. Isn't telling he's the guy. In fact it's telling he isn't the guy either.
Fresh Zoro Without Broken Bones , Pushes Kaido to G4 Adcoc Luffy. With KoH and Adcoc it's G5 level. 🤷

Pushes kaido?


This was Kaido's reaction after getting hit by Zoro's asura:

 

[M944]

Even when Zoro fights people above his paygrade Oda still makes him look good.

On Dressrosa he pushed back Fujitora with one sword.

On Wano he performed the best on the rooftop prior to ACoC, including Luffy and his main rivals. Kaido didn't even beat him 1v1, he passed out after blocking a combined attack from 2 Yonko and still managed to inflict the most damage.

When Zoro fought Enel, he got bodied and that's why Luffy was so surprised when he found him. He couldn't believe that someone did that to Zoro, and let's not pretend like Luffy wouldn't also have gotten bodied if he wasn't made of rubber.

When Zoro fought Arlong he made Arlong piss himself. When he fought Monet he made Monet shit herself. When he fought Hody it was fodderisation. When he fought Hyouzou he fodderised a stronger version of someone Luffy called strong. Now he's about to fight Lucci and we'll see what happens.

Point is, Zoro usually does pretty well if not even better than Luffy against his opponents when he fights them, so saying he only looks good cos he fights weaker opponents doesn't really hold up. He looks good because Oda has Zoro as the token 'badass' so god forbid he ever looks bad. Which creates an unrealistic perception of Zoro's strength and why people end up saying foolishness like ZKK.

Oda has Luffy finish the tough fights but he rarely pushes Zoro to extreme-diff. There's always some reason Zoro can't fight Luffy's opponents in the end - either he'll get removed from the fight by his own opponent, he'll be in the completely wrong location or he'll be nerfed. More often than not, Zoro's "not that guy" because he's not the MC, not necessarily because he lacks the strength. Same reason Sabo didn't finish off Doflamingo on Dressrosa.

And whenever Luffy's about to do some dumb shit like turn back and fight Fujitora or punch a CD, Zoro was right there behind him.

You just exolained why Zoro will stay far From Luffy and the gap will increase fighting weakling don't make you progress whereas having though fights makes you progress

When Zoro is extreme diffing King, Luffy went to extreme diff King
The difference between their opponents is huge

Luffy is already at the same level than Mihawk a level Zoro won't reach till he fights Mihawk at EOS
Unless you think Luffy won't progress anymore (which is foolish) the gap will stay the same or will increase

 

[zorovsanji]

You just exolained why Zoro will stay far From Luffy and the gap will increase fighting weakling don't make you progress whereas having though fights makes you progress

When Zoro is extreme diffing King, Luffy went to extreme diff King
The difference between their opponents is huge

Luffy is already at the same level than Mihawk a level Zoro won't reach till he fights Mihawk at EOS
Unless you think Luffy won't progress anymore (which is foolish) the gap will stay the same or will increase

Lol Luffy couldn't beat baby kings, couldn't scar kaido with acoc and awakening while Zoro did it with just acoa.

 

[Superior to you]

Only a tard could post this, he was already on the groung tired,injured when kizaru attacked him.
He injured kuma while himself being injured after oars fight and on the verge of death, kumas words.
Nobody could beat an overpowerd logia without haki at that point. We know why luffy did. He basically beat enel without his fruit working on him. I would say zoro would finish the fight quicker if he was rubber like Goffy.
So all those examples are to put it bluntly Retarded. We all know you're dishonest.

 

[HeroesNZ]

You just exolained why Zoro will stay far From Luffy and the gap will increase fighting weakling don't make you progress whereas having though fights makes you progress

When Zoro is extreme diffing King, Luffy went to extreme diff King
The difference between their opponents is huge

Luffy is already at the same level than Mihawk a level Zoro won't reach till he fights Mihawk at EOS
Unless you think Luffy won't progress anymore (which is foolish) the gap will stay the same or will increase

To reach YC1, Zoro needed to fight:
- Pica, Kamazou

He needed to train with a new sword.

To reach YC1, Luffy need to fight:
- Doflamingo, Cracker, Katakuri.

He needed to awaken FS and train extensively to master advanced CoA.

Despite all this, Zoro still ended up outshining Luffy pre-ACoC... Some people just need a little less help than others.

Zoro couldn't beat King without awakening ACoC - Luffy's feats on Egghead indicate he would've performed identically. As soon as Zoro awakened ACoC, King couldn't land a single hit. Clearly Zoro elevated beyond King's paygrade, he passed out due to the mink medicine. Let's not be disingenuous now.

There's no rule saying Zoro and Luffy need to earn their power-ups at the same time. Luffy needs to extend his G5 time limit, Zoro needs to extend his KOH time limit. Once Zoro is able to extend his KOH time limit, he'll be as strong as Oden which is the same level Luffy is now. That's a passive power-up that'll probably happen off-panel between arcs. Then, Zoro will make black blades which will put him above Mihawk. Luffy will likely awaken a new Haki vs Blackbeard - tbh I'm not expecting him to receive a power-up until then.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Only a tard could post this, he was already on the groung tired,injured when kizaru attacked him.
He injured kuma while himself being injured after oars fight and on the verge of death, kumas words.
Nobody could beat an overpowerd logia without haki at that point. We know why luffy did. He basically beat enel without his fruit working on him. I would say zoro would finish the fight quicker if he was rubber like Goffy.
So all those examples are to put it bluntly Retarded. We all know you're dishonest.

Luffy was, is and always will be STRONGER THAN ZORO, he is the main character, whether you like it or not.

Zoro gets DESTROYED by kaido and any other luffy's opponents during their respective arcs, pay attention to the story you read.

 

[Cruxroux]

How were these even fight?
Luffy , Enel were way out of their league at that time. Don't be a clown , if Luffy was not rubber , he would have got negged even harder.

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How? Luffy has better haki, better fruit, awakened mythical zoan and got hit by SEVERAL fire blasts from kaido with little to no damage.

How is king, a guy with MEDIOCRE haki, non conqueror, non awakened ancient zoan supposed to do something that kaido which is superior to king on EVERYTHING couldnt???

Even with better haki , Zoro was dealing damage to Kaido and Luffy wasn't doing much , Same Luffy thrown infront of King does nothing because none of Zoro haki attack worked.
Zoro battle IQ > Luffy Battle IQ. King Magma Dragon burns Luffy to death. It's as simple as that , even after fighting s Kuma , he still couldn't figure how they work unless Zoro told them.

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How? Luffy has better haki, better fruit, awakened mythical zoan and got hit by SEVERAL fire blasts from kaido with little to no damage.

How is king, a guy with MEDIOCRE haki, non conqueror, non awakened ancient zoan supposed to do something that kaido which is superior to king on EVERYTHING couldnt???

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Pushes kaido?


This was Kaido's reaction after getting hit by Zoro's asura:

You need start reading one piece lmao.
30 broken pushed Kaido the hardest on rooftop.
Keep doing your selective.
Your panels are waste and proving my point only.
What sort clown do you have to be to not understand that lol.